Is this a good deal?

Squirt · Post by **Squirt** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 3:31 pm

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... Tpk=gu2098

Is this a good Gaming PC I was thinking of buying it tomorrow on black friday, but how will it fair with high end games such as MW3?

Post by **Gaigemasta** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 3:38 pm

it will play mw3 just fine as it's not a high end game

it will play games alright, go for it for but don't expect upgrade to without having to payout extra (more than just the item you want to upgrade)

Squirt · Post by **Squirt** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 3:42 pm

What do you recommend then? I want something that is easily upgradeable, but won't go over 500$.. And I want to be able to buy it tomorrow.

Or if you can recommend something from bestbuy.com I can buy it in person :@

Key-J · Post by **Key-J** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:20 pm

It is a solid computer for the price,

However, looking more into it, i found the motherboard and when i looked at the pictures from the NewEgg site i discovered it's a tiny tiny motherboard. Which will make upgrading cards in the future a hassle,and i don't think you can x-fire.

Furthermore, the 500w power is pretty adequate for today's cards. However, i see them moving more and more into the 550 - 650 range. So your PSU might need to be replaces as well in the future when upgrading.

Have you thought about Purchasing one yourself online? Building one?

Squirt · Post by **Squirt** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:24 pm

Key-J wrote:It is a solid computer for the price,

However, looking more into it, i found the motherboard and when i looked at the pictures from the NewEgg site i discovered it's a tiny tiny motherboard. Which will make upgrading cards in the future a hassle,and i don't think you can x-fire.

Furthermore, the 500w power is pretty adequate for today's cards. However, i see them moving more and more into the 550 - 650 range. So your PSU might need to be replaces as well in the future when upgrading.

Have you thought about Purchasing one yourself online? Building one?

I do have that as an option but I need help picking the parts and stuff. Someone posted a guide on building your own but I couldn't find some of the parts.

If someone can post the parts + links to one that would be <500$ and can run games well I'd purchase it in a second

Key-J · Post by **Key-J** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:31 pm

Do you have any online store you prefer?

Squirt · Post by **Squirt** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:33 pm

Any store that sells and ships to the USA.
I've heard NewEgg is one of the cheapest

Key-J · Post by **Key-J** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:37 pm

Here is one i threw together, it's pretty decent for the price, there was some BlackFriday deals in there, but im trying to get something closer to you 500 mark.

Btw, i've never used that website before, it was just the manufacturer of the comp you first linked.

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/saved/1DNUQD

I'll check NCIX, i just ordered my comp through them.

Just be aware though, HDs are expensive as crap now. about 100bucks for 500gb. Due to the flooding in Thailand.

Squirt · Post by **Squirt** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:43 pm

Thank you, and yes the closer to the 500$ the better. I only have 1000$ and I am trying to save the other 500$ for my cell phone bill so I won't have to work ti'll June

Key-J · Post by **Key-J** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:50 pm

Are you ok with MIRs?

Squirt · Post by **Squirt** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:52 pm

What are MIRs?

Key-J · Post by **Key-J** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:53 pm

Mail In Rebates.

So, you pay a little extra now, but you get cash back when you send in a form.

Squirt · Post by **Squirt** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:54 pm

How much extra would it be? And what kind of form would I have to fill up?

Key-J · Post by **Key-J** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:56 pm

For example:

http://us.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=59616

You pay 79.99 now, and get 30 bucks later when you send in:
http://www.mirhelp.com/wp-content/uploa ... -30-11.pdf

Edit:

Man i keep getting in the bloody 600-700 range.

What you should do Squirt it look at NCIX, throw some things into your Shopping cart as you see what you might want to build.

Here is what i built so far:

: forsquirtbuild.PNG (62.28 KiB) Viewed 2592 times

I'm going to have to run soon, but here is also the Build Guide that was posted before:

Spoiler!

Hope someone can maybe build off the info i've given you so far and help you out with this. Have you looked at your local computer shops in town and see what they have for Black Friday deals?

Squirt · Post by **Squirt** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:01 pm

I wouldn't mind dipping into 550$

And I don't quote understand what MIR does for the consumer. Do I get a 100% payback for the MIR?

Key-J · Post by **Key-J** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:04 pm

Not 100%, but what they offer. So if they say it's a 30$ back MIR. Then you get a cheque for 30$.

Also, added more to above response.

Squirt · Post by **Squirt** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:08 pm

Wow thats expensive :shock:

.
How well would that PC you posted before for 600$ run on most games?

Key-J · Post by **Key-J** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:22 pm

I think it's going to run very well.

Like my build is very similar as well, just with 2GB of Video and a little more GHz in my CPU.

Here is a video maybe you want to look at:

BF3 is the game to Benchmark with today, and you will be able to run quite smooth on your 6850.

Like i said though, i know there are people here with much more experience than i do in building, and definitely never take my build as your build. My needs could be different to your needs, and you should definitely look into building your own tower.

Also, a draw back is that this doesn't bring an OS, where as the pre-built ones most likely do. Ergo more cash money being dropped.

Squirt · Post by **Squirt** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:26 pm

Key-J wrote:I think it's going to run very well.

Like my build is very similar as well, just with 2GB of Video and a little more GHz in my CPU.

Here is a video maybe you want to look at:

BF3 is the game to Benchmark with today, and you will be able to run quite smooth on your 6850.

Like i said though, i know there are people here with much more experience than i do in building, and definitely never take my build as your build. My needs could be different to your needs, and you should definitely look into building your own tower.

Also, a draw back is that this doesn't bring an OS, where as the pre-built ones most likely do. Ergo more cash money being dropped.

Thank you, I will order the 618$ dollar one, unless someone thinks I can get a better deal somewhere else. I'll give it ti'll tomorrow then I'll order it if I receive no new feedback

Key-J · Post by **Key-J** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:30 pm

Don't just order the one i built.

Definitely look at it yourself, look at the parts i picked and what others suggest, what you want and what you might be able to find elsewhere.

I think most likely you are going to be in the 600 range for a decent PC, and also look at Intel builds, i build AMD, but for all i know im missing out on Inter / NVidia

Squirt · Post by **Squirt** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:39 pm

I try looking into it myself but I don't really know how compatibility works and what parts are better than others. Thank you for the help Key-J

Any other help would be appreciated greatly

vietxboy911 · Post by **vietxboy911** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 6:08 pm

not a computer genius myself but:

You pay xxx for an item, and if they offer mail in rebate, you will send something to the manufracturer ( ie. barcode etc )and they will send you a check in the mail sometime later. Marketing scheme o.o

Squirt · Post by **Squirt** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:16 pm

http://www.hardware-revolution.com/budg ... -and-more/

I found this
What do you guys think about the Orange and green builds? Would they run BF3 on highest?

poehalcho · Post by **poehalcho** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:00 pm

Intel Core i3-2100 Dual-Core + HyperThreading 3.1Ghz

antique...

Azilius · Post by **Azilius** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:01 pm

Hi

60 GB SSD @60

Spoiler!

Core i5 2500k $200

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8GB RAM 30$

Spoiler!

MSI 1155 motherboard $99 AFTER MIR

Spoiler!

OCZ 650W power supply $50

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ASUS GTX 550 Ti (with a free t shirt yay) $100

Spoiler!

Stupid looking Case $50

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TOTAL PRICE: $600 + tax
GOOD: You get a very, very good CPU. The SSD makes everything load very fast, everything feels 'snappier'. Computer start time is something around 0.042 seconds. The graphics card can run newer games on medium/high settings, nothing exceptional although it was the best price/preformance I saw.

BAD: The motherboard is $100. I don't know if you'll want to place another graphics card in the future and SLI them (run 2 side by side for greater preformance). I also don't know how many PCI slots you need. Other motherboards can potentially save you another $50.

MORE BAD: 4 products have mail in rebates. MIR's are FINE if you follow the instructions ONE HUNDRED PERCENT and mail them in ON TIME. If you spell your name wrong or leave out a comma somewhere they WILL DENY IT. On the plus side, getting money in the mail weeks (read 2 months) later feels like getting a present randomly.

EVEN MORE BAD: I only picked out a 60GB SSD. No harddrive. Due to what KeyJ already mentioned (the flood in southeast asia) harddrive prices are very high. I'd wait until they don't cost both of your arms and then buy one.

OTHER: I didn't pick out an optical drive (cd drive), nor a mouse, keyboard, speakers, monitor, etc. I assume the only thing from the above that you need is an optical drive which can be bought at local PC store for $20 or less. All parts are from newegg AND are part of the blackfriday sale they are currently having. ALL parts have free shipping to my knowledge. If you want a better graphics card, I suggest lowering the CPU to an 1155 core i3 and going for possibly a GTX 560 ti.

If you have no idea what to buy, or are stuck between two things (say a gtx 550 vs ati 6850), just google 'gtx 550 vs ati 6850' and look at the first few links.

If any of the links are messed..let me know and I'll fix em after, I'll check back on this post since you said you want to buy tomorrow and time is..of the essence.

Squirt · Post by **Squirt** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:05 pm

I have a 100gb Hard drive from my old computer, can't I use that for now until prices go down?

Edit: $614.94 in total without the SSD.
I will buy the build tomorrow, does anyone else have any other suggestions?

Edit: Do you guys also recommend I lower the CPU and get a better graphics card?

KillAndChill · Post by **KillAndChill** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:48 pm

Azilius wrote:Hi

60 GB SSD @60

Spoiler!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227550

Core i5 2500k $200

Spoiler!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072&cm_mmc=BF2011_listing-_-343-_-N82E16819115072&nm_mc=BF2011_listing

8GB RAM 30$

Spoiler!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314&cm_mmc=BF2011_listing-_-147-_-N82E16820231314&nm_mc=BF2011_listing

MSI 1155 motherboard $99 AFTER MIR

Spoiler!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130582&cm_mmc=BF2011_listing-_-280-_-N82E16813130582&nm_mc=BF2011_listing

OCZ 650W power supply $50

Spoiler!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341048&cm_mmc=BF2011_listing-_-58-_-N82E16817341048&nm_mc=BF2011_listing

ASUS GTX 550 Ti (with a free t shirt yay) $100

Spoiler!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121435&cm_mmc=BF2011_listing-_-48-_-N82E16814121435&nm_mc=BF2011_listing

Stupid looking Case $50

Spoiler!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112238&cm_mmc=BF2011_listing-_-7-_-N82E16811112238&nm_mc=BF2011_listing

This. Have basically the same setup and it's beastly. I'm sure you can find some benchmarks online with a 2500K AND 550Ti to see how it plays certain games.

Azilius · Post by **Azilius** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:54 pm

I strongly recommend an SSD. It's probably the biggest difference maker. That being said, yes you can use the 100GB HDD from your old computer. Just to give you some context, in the past 15(?) years, harddrives have been one of, if not the, slowest to change and match the performance gains of other parts in a computer.

Squirt · Post by **Squirt** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:00 pm

That SSD is @90$, can I get something cheaper?

Key-J · Post by **Key-J** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:04 pm

Well,

SSDs are really good because they are so fast, and currently unfortunately getting Hard Drives is going to be expensive because of the flooding in Thailand.

If my 500g HD didnt come to 99bucks, i would have gotten an SSD as well for Boot.

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