Autism

[Mirosuke]

Never thought it could be that serious. At first I thought the disease of being Autism is that you have weak reactions to your environment, and you know, stuff that you only care about yourself. Living your own world, a nightmare where you probably never will be released from.

Surfing youtube, I found this particular syndrome of Autism called Self Injurious Behavior..
*Might be disturbing to watch*

Spoiler!

(Vids are from 2 years ago, he made quiet a progress on the vids they made lately, check on their channel if you are interested.)
Read some of the comments, and watched the vid... He seems like no hope and that Euthanation is the only way to stop from the suffering from both side (Affected person and people between).
But the bravery of this family seems to be enormous because he doesn't only have Autism but the Self Injury behavior mixed with Seizures and when both disease attacks him, he seems like giving up life, but his family are the one attaching him to it. One of the reason he wears a diappers it's because "doctors say he has the cognitive range of somewhere between 8 months and 3 years old, so, given those ages also wear diapers".
Must be a hell living with a member of your family with this syndrome...
What would you do, and what do you think about it? How are the chance of people being autism? It is genetic? You think Euthanasia is the only way to go?

I don't know what'd do if any of my children had Autism... I guess I would know it until it happens.

[Snazzi]

Thats pretty bad. :| It must be horrible for the family to have to put up with it almost 24/7.

[inky]

There are several degrees of Autism. Self-inflicted harm is among the characteristics that some have. Others have just impaired social interactions are are preoccupied with a certain area of interest. In some cases, aides aren't even allowed to feed them because of a risk of sudden outburst of self-directed violence. It's even worse when the child's behavior is no longer tolerated by the family members; verbal/physical abuse and neglect start to arise.

[*BlackFox]

It is genetic?

I'm not entirely sure, but I think autism is a genetic disorder.

[CrimsonNuker]

Autistic*

[inky]

It's linked to genetics but it there's also environmental factors such as maternal exposure to infections (TORCH) and use of teratogen drugs during pregnancy (chemotherapy, ACE inhibitors, psychiatric meds). It's also linked to having extremely young or old parents and vaccines. In most cases, the actual cause is unknown; physicians can determine likely causes but almost never pinpoint it.

[penfold1992]

its sad to see because im like this inside my head and i do also have episodes of self harm too, i can relate to the troubles of autism like trying to speak your mind but no-one ever understands you.
although im not medically diagnosed as autistic for several reasons doctors believe that there is a link between how we interact with ourselves as humans. many people with asperges syndrome explain it as becoming deeply involved with thoughts or feelings (which is why a lot have the ability to taste words colors or numbers)
the bad news however is that most people with cases similar to this come to a conclusion that they are living outside of the reality of the real world

[Snazzi]

Asperges is a mild version of autism, so many of the factors seen in asperges would be similar to the ones in autism. I know they can't control themselves, but imagine trying to cause greivous bodily harm to yourself... What must be going through your brain oO

[DinoNuggets]

One of my moms friend has a younger boy with autism i hate people who give him looks with a passion or laugh or anything it literally pisses me off i beat the crap out of a kid for pointing and giggling.

[[SD]Twysta]

Thumbs up if you watched her more than him

[Snazzi]

Thumbs up if you watched her more than him

Theres always one...

She is a bit of a milf though

[DinoNuggets]

Thumbs up if you watched her more than him :sohappy :sohappy

[Isis]

I am a carer, for adults with learning disabilities, we have a resident with severe autism. She is 36, but has a mind of a child. She cannot talk, and only knows basic words, like "hello" and "goodbye", but she is extremely clever, and understands just about everything you are talking about. She has scars on her hands, where she gets angry, she will bite her hands, she will scream, and even growl, when she is upset or angry. She can also be challenging behaviour as well, especially if she doesn't get her own way.

I think, we all have some kind of autistic traits, like social skills, collecting objects, or fascinated with a particular object, and touching things.

[penfold1992]

, and touching things.

Boobs. Nuff said.

[Talonos]

Asperges is a mild version of autism, so many of the factors seen in asperges would be similar to the ones in autism. I know they can't control themselves, but imagine trying to cause greivous bodily harm to yourself... What must be going through your brain oO

Yer fist?

[Isis]

Asperges is a mild version of autism, so many of the factors seen in asperges would be similar to the ones in autism. I know they can't control themselves, but imagine trying to cause greivous bodily harm to yourself... What must be going through your brain oO

Asperger's IS Autism.

, and touching things.

Boobs. Nuff said.

I just love the fact that someone, HAS to take the piss out of something. That they DON'T understand..


Most of the self harm, is a sensory thing. Like, banging a head against a wall, it feels weird and they like the "buzz" it gives them. I don't understand why (I presume the mother), doesn't let him get on with it. Instead of restraining him, she could do more harm then good. Just make him safe, a safe environment, he is already wearing a head guard. If he seriously hurts himself, I am sure he'll either won't do it again, or won't do it so hard.

[Snazzi]

Asperges is a mild version of autism, so many of the factors seen in asperges would be similar to the ones in autism. I know they can't control themselves, but imagine trying to cause greivous bodily harm to yourself... What must be going through your brain oO

Asperger's IS Autism.

Didn't say it wasn't... But I see how you guys got confused with my reply (Reading over it now, I see how its wrong lol)

[Mirosuke]

It's interesting because they seem to be aggressive to themselves but in one of the videos her nephew was extremely close to him and all that, yet he didn't do anything harming nor aggressive. I honestly expected some shout or hitting but he was so calmed. No cure, but then does that mean a death sentence? Medicine and treatment can cost an eye from your face, and it's not even to cure it, just to minimize the symptoms. Keep going is a brave thing to do, is playing with life.

[Isis]

It's interesting because they seem to be aggressive to themselves but in one of the videos her nephew was extremely close to him and all that, yet he didn't do anything harming nor aggressive. I honestly expected some shout or hitting but he was so calmed. No cure, but then does that mean a death sentence? Medicine and treatment can cost an eye from your face, and it's not even to cure it, just to minimize the symptoms. Keep going is a brave thing to do, is playing with life.

There isn't a cure for autism, but there are special diets that reduce the symptoms and some learning. There are some videos on youtube, of some children's journey out of autism, that might interest you. It is like training your brain to work in a different way, and bringing a child out of it. My boss' grandson, also has autism, he is on a gluten and dairy free diet, and he is taught how to play, and to use eye contact and to talk when he needs something. It is a slow process, but it is working.

I would love to work with children with autism.

[the.unseen.]

For people who don't know what Asperger syndrome is or what the symptoms are like here's a video of the red shirt guy kickingass. (On a side note he seems to have a very case of Asperger)

[Amarisa]

I don't quite understand. If someone is like in the video that was posted and need to restrain them and w/e.

Short story is I wouldn't want to continue living if I wasn't able to function properly. I wouldn't be able to do anything or have the experience of living without the aids of others. would be like hell for me at least. So why do people let them continue living? I am talking about the really bad cases where they can't function properly at all.

[Obsidian]

Short story is I wouldn't want to continue living if I wasn't able to function properly. I wouldn't be able to do anything or have the experience of living without the aids of others. would be like hell for me at least. So why do people let them continue living? I am talking about the really bad cases where they can't function properly at all.

Ditto, I've already requested to be "unplugged" if I ever have such horrific brain trauma.
I really do feel bad for these people who suffer from such conditions, it's tragic.

I have witnessed stuff like this first hand when my grandma had cancer and dozens of serious strokes, after 3 years of taking care of her there wasn't anything left of her, mentally or physically [she couldn't talk, walk, communicate, she was just an empty shell]. Watching somebody suffer like this on a daily basis is just horrific.

[the.unseen.]

While that is a very severe case of Autism, self harm is only prevalent in about 30% of cases, and of the 30% cases about maybe 5% are very severe. I worked two semesters at my old high school working with kids with Autism and many of them didn't even have anything close to self harm effects like this. One kid in particular was an amazing kid who's both parents were deaf (as farm as I know his dad wasn't fully deaf) but the kid knew sign language perfectly, and he would come to school and always love to talk to people while there because at home he would never get the chance. There was another girl who with a not very severe case, but not in any of the sense mild, was able to hand write fast and better then anyone I personally know. These kids all had a special thing which they excelled on. There is almost as good of chance to become an Idiot Savant as there are to have a case as bad as this kid in this video.

[Isis]

I don't quite understand. If someone is like in the video that was posted and need to restrain them and w/e.

Short story is I wouldn't want to continue living if I wasn't able to function properly. I wouldn't be able to do anything or have the experience of living without the aids of others. would be like hell for me at least. So why do people let them continue living? I am talking about the really bad cases where they can't function properly at all.

To be completely honest with you, you are born autistic, you don't just become autistic later in life. So that will be the only life you have, you probably won't have the mental capacity that everyone else has to make decision like that for yourself.

[[SD]Twysta]

I want to wrestle with her

[Amarisa]

I don't quite understand. If someone is like in the video that was posted and need to restrain them and w/e.

Short story is I wouldn't want to continue living if I wasn't able to function properly. I wouldn't be able to do anything or have the experience of living without the aids of others. would be like hell for me at least. So why do people let them continue living? I am talking about the really bad cases where they can't function properly at all.

To be completely honest with you, you are born autistic, you don't just become autistic later in life. So that will be the only life you have, you probably won't have the mental capacity that everyone else has to make decision like that for yourself.

Right, but that still doesn't answer my question. If it comes to the point where you have to restrain them and pretty much do everything for them then why continue? Pretty much everything you do for the person isn't going to matter a lot because they will constantly need 100% of your attention. I am still talking about the severe cases not the mild to not so severe like with what the.unseen. said. Those people still function and can interact with other people unlike the person in the original video. Maybe they do understand you 100% or whatever but just can't communicate to you in a proper way. Even then that would be like hell doing nothing other then just living. Plus even if you take care of them that takes away from your life and puts it into something that won't get better (unless there can be a cure? idk) and has no chance to function without assistance.

[futuresight]

While that is a very severe case of Autism, self harm is only prevalent in about 30% of cases, and of the 30% cases about maybe 5% are very severe. I worked two semesters at my old high school working with kids with Autism and many of them didn't even have anything close to self harm effects like this. One kid in particular was an amazing kid who's both parents were deaf (as farm as I know his dad wasn't fully deaf) but the kid knew sign language perfectly, and he would come to school and always love to talk to people while there because at home he would never get the chance. There was another girl who with a not very severe case, but not in any of the sense mild, was able to hand write fast and better then anyone I personally know. These kids all had a special thing which they excelled on. There is almost as good of chance to become an Idiot Savant as there are to have a case as bad as this kid in this video.

Even the intelligent cases might not want to live in a world that doesn't understand them.

[Isis]

Right, but that still doesn't answer my question. If it comes to the point where you have to restrain them and pretty much do everything for them then why continue? Pretty much everything you do for the person isn't going to matter a lot because they will constantly need 100% of your attention. I am still talking about the severe cases not the mild to not so severe like with what the.unseen. said. Those people still function and can interact with other people unlike the person in the original video. Maybe they do understand you 100% or whatever but just can't communicate to you in a proper way. Even then that would be like hell doing nothing other then just living. Plus even if you take care of them that takes away from your life and puts it into something that won't get better (unless there can be a cure? idk) and has no chance to function without assistance.

This might sound like a horrible thing to say, that is where care homes come into play. And restbite, where the parents of these children and young adults can have time away from their children.
Our most severe cases of autism at work, (I am a carer), can function in her own way, she can communicate in her own way, yeah it takes some time to understand what she wants, and she has a very basic knowledge of sign language, some are made up by her. But we start to learn what they mean. She does get to go out, and she loves to go shopping, she loves shoes, she loves to go out and to dance and she loves to sing (some are her own songs), but she knows "happy birthday" and "the wheels on the bus", but she cannot form the words properly, but we can still understand what she is singing. She loves to have a hug, and a lot of human contact. Oh and she LOVES men!
But there is a side of her, where she will pull at other peoples hair (mine included), pull at other peoples clothes, she screams, LOUDLY! And she even growls, and she bites her hand, and she hits herself.
But the sad thing is, before coming to live at the home, she had nothing, she was locked away, abused, sexually, financially, and physically, all from a man that called himself her father (not biological father). Her mother doesn't want anything to do with her, and she has limited contact from her, don't even know where her father is.
Her quality of life, is probably better then what most peoples are, she has tones of clothes, shoes, she eat a well balanced meal, three times a day. She has a roof over her head, where she is warm and protected, and she is well loved. That is all anyone needs in life.

[[SD]Master_Wong]

sad true, but at the start of the vid he sounds a bit like chewbaka

[penfold1992]

Asperges is a mild version of autism, so many of the factors seen in asperges would be similar to the ones in autism. I know they can't control themselves, but imagine trying to cause greivous bodily harm to yourself... What must be going through your brain oO

Asperger's IS Autism. NO ITS NOT its in the autism spectrum but its not classic autism

, and touching things.

Boobs. Nuff said.

I just love the fact that someone, HAS to take the piss out of something. That they DON'T understand..

and having been diagnosed with autism and asberges at some part of my life. id say i know enough. i wasnt taking the piss out of anyone with asberges or autism i was just bringing light to the case.
i have agrophobia, bipolar disorder, OCD tendencies, stereotypic movement disorder and i have episodes of semantic pragmatic disorder.