Answers from Korea, you ask ill get them.

[Chaud]

im with nightv regarding this thread, enough said.

Str hybrid.
Believing a non-SA.
Your winnar.

[hellsharpt]

I'm on the nightv band wagon here. I appreciate the fact the he's communicating. No one else is.

It's great that Babel has such upstanding SA's I for one have never heard anything from Troy's. Being an SA is probabaly alot like being a mod on these forums, totally thanksless. Its still appreciated.

As for information Bakemaster has provided some but he has been very quiet of late. Perhaps because he was asked to, I'm not going to speculate. He's been the only mouthpiece for JM for a long time.

This is the time when customers need information, now not in 2 months. Look at all the people leaving, yes its still crowded, but that's the clientless bots as sus pointed out. Get some information out to ANY forum. The word will get around.

I said it, others have as well. Stop fighting and talk, realtime not in chat. Check your egos and forget any bashing that has gone on. Work together and get things fixed and get into out to customers (yes I pay for services so I am a customer).

[4-n-zics]

you can not fail alchemy to +1 for starters.

Hold the phone cocheese... You CAN fail when trying to get to +1. I know this because it has happened to me. Failed to +1 on a level 55 SOS garment head (twice, I think) before getting to +3.

have you failed recently w/ a lucky powder? I have failed before to but that was ages ago. Never failed w/ lucky powder +1 for many months now.

This was within the last 2 weeks or so. Doesn't really matter tho since Protector Elixirs are a dime a dozen. I did get it to +3 on the next 3 tries so all is good.

[Juey]

im with nightv regarding this thread, enough said.

Str hybrid.
Believing a non-SA.
Your winnar.

You failed to realize that i've long treated your comments regarding my superior build as mere air, my friend.

And dont try to attempt to put words into my mouth again, I said im with nightv which means i support what he does. It doesnt mean that I do not use common sense and eats up every single thing that he says.

For example I dont have to be a SA or personally spoke to any GMs to know 100% sure that next update is going to be 300 skill mastery and level 80 cap.

[Darkangel]

im with nightv regarding this thread, enough said.

Str hybrid.
Believing a non-SA.
Your winnar.

wow sorry to hear the day that the chuad police is correct..... str hybrid nuker FTL

[Chaud]

A lot of what he said sounds like BS to me.

Your build is anything but superior.

[nightv]

im with nightv regarding this thread, enough said.

Str hybrid.
Believing a non-SA.
Your winnar.

You failed to realize that i've long treated your comments regarding my superior build as mere air, my friend.

And dont try to attempt to put words into my mouth again, I said im with nightv which means i support what he does. It doesnt mean that I do not use common sense and eats up every single thing that he says.

For example I dont have to be a SA or personally spoke to any GMs to know 100% sure that next update is going to be 300 skill mastery and level 80 cap.

i will bump this one last time then let this die, i started a new topic that you guys can just ask question and ill try to help nothing more, as for 300 skill masterys i said it might go up after the lv 90-100 update. not the 80 update.


sry if i made some people missunderstand.

[matronyx]

Thanks for the lil info nightv, please try to keep it going

Thesleeper said most of what I wanted to say, but I will still highlight this point:

U Sa`s blew it, u had the perfect oppertunity to work as a team. U knew night and cuch had actually spoken to people u haven`t and possibly gained info u had not been given. U could have done alot for this community (meaning the whole of Isro) if u had put ur egos aside and contacted night and cuch and asked them to work with u all as a TEAM, sharing any info they were able to gain. BUT sadly u did not. Instead u blantenly attack and try to belittle any attempts they have made in sharing any info they have gained.

What was so hard in sending nightv and cuch a pm asking to work together?

I guess I wont blame you SAs for all this mess, since nightv and cuch could have done the same thing, but since you SAs are supposedly the closest to being "in the know" and you all are soooo swamped with in game "work", nightv's lil bid to help would be welcomed.

Sure he might have said some things that were not full on point but he is the only one that has said anything that seems close to what might be going on. Try and work it out guys/gals... we the ones NOT "in the know" would really appreciate it.

[Dark]

To SA's..... You sound like you think you're so high and mighty and you've got all the connections and you do know what's happening, so how about a little communication! It doesn't have to be from you, just from anyone! Tell Joymax to talk to us, the players, hell, the people who are feeding their families. That's all we want! Even if they were to post a statment once a week about what they are planning or issues, or something like that I know that I, at least, would be satisfied, and so would a lot of other people I bet.

So, in light of that, nightv has taken it upon himself to try and communicate for Joymax to us using what he knows. Don't flame him for trying to help when you're just sitting there on your thrones and observing. You have the right info? Alright, well spill it. Don't just go around laughing at people saying, no you're wrong, you have no idea what's going on. Again, you have the answers and the time to post here? Tell us what the right info is. Oh yeah, I forgot, you're not supposed to talk about this stuff it's confidential....then why are you even posting on here in the first place, you're not supposed to talk about it! By posting here and not helping, you're just causing things to be worse. After you say, no, you're wrong, people will go around speculating about more stuff that you will probably will say 'no' to also.

From what I've seen of most other posts from SA's you sounded like pretty nice people, but in this thread my opinion has completely changed.

Bottom Line:
nightv is taking the time to communicate with the players; something the he should not have to do. Who should have to do it, you ask? Joymax! They're not doing their jobs (actually in more ways than just communication)! I'd assume that the SA's are supposed to help people, but from what I see here they aren't really doing it.

[Criterion-]

im with nightv regarding this thread, enough said.

Str hybrid.
Believing a non-SA.
Your winnar.

You failed to realize that i've long treated your comments regarding my superior build as mere air, my friend.

And dont try to attempt to put words into my mouth again, I said im with nightv which means i support what he does. It doesnt mean that I do not use common sense and eats up every single thing that he says.

For example I dont have to be a SA or personally spoke to any GMs to know 100% sure that next update is going to be 300 skill mastery and level 80 cap.

Go make int bow as your second build ROFL.

[WindSlicer]

Bottom Line:
nightv is taking the time to communicate with the players; something the he should not have to do.

Woopdedoo, a player comes here to make a thread that he presents as facts while a number of the points he said were true have been proven otherwise.

Sure, it's great when someone uses their information to help others, but in this case it looks as if nightv is trying to make a name for himself posting this "information" (which has been put into question by the two resident SAs).

I don't see how people can defend this guy after he's presented faulty information.

It's quite obvious that the SA's are doing their job. They work hard to be the voice of the community and you shoot them down because they're calling out a fraud. Some of you act like they have all of this secret important information when I'm pretty sure they don't know a ton more than we do about Joymax's master scheme and timeline.

Bottom line
nightv has virtually no clue what he is talking about (did you honestly make up half the stuff you wrote?) and he should not be defended for questioning the hardwork of the SAs

[Douken]

Joymax! They're not doing their jobs (actually in more ways than just communication)! I'd assume that the SA's are supposed to help people, but from what I see here they aren't really doing it.

Agree
I would be happy just seeing a GM saying "We are dealing with bot problems, blah blah problems, etc. and we are trying our best" Just that would make me happy... but you post on forum... wich is fire house with flames poking out and u never get any response. Is ok that they can't look every post, I can understand that. But say 30% of the post in Official forum is about complaining about bot problems. If they are working on something against bots why they can even say that... . That is what the people want.

[VanHalen]

Bottom line
nightv has virtually no clue what he is talking about (did you honestly make up half the stuff you wrote?) and he should not be defended for questioning the hardwork of the SAs

why he doesnt have a clue of what is he talking about?

[WindSlicer]

Bottom line
nightv has virtually no clue what he is talking about (did you honestly make up half the stuff you wrote?) and he should not be defended for questioning the hardwork of the SAs

why he doesnt have a clue of what is he talking about?

Didn't know about SA's still existing, spreading rumors about 600 Cap when there is no fact behind it, giving advice about fraps, etc etc

The thing is this guy is trying to be helpful but he is just spewing his opinions laced with some info that he's received from Gargamel. I can't trust someone who will mix his own opinion with the fact and then call it fact.

[Juey]

im with nightv regarding this thread, enough said.

Str hybrid.
Believing a non-SA.
Your winnar.

You failed to realize that i've long treated your comments regarding my superior build as mere air, my friend.

And dont try to attempt to put words into my mouth again, I said im with nightv which means i support what he does. It doesnt mean that I do not use common sense and eats up every single thing that he says.

For example I dont have to be a SA or personally spoke to any GMs to know 100% sure that next update is going to be 300 skill mastery and level 80 cap.

Go make int bow as your second build ROFL.

Please hold both of your palms up close to your face, then reapeatedly swing them against your face several times. Done? now that you have bitchslap yourself for totally offtopic a thread Ill tell you that i already posted my last word regarding my build here http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic ... 2&start=60
My points have been proven, last word written, case closed. For any further idotic totally offtopic from you babel dramaqueens please go to that thread and read then reread it. thank you.

[Criterion-]

im with nightv regarding this thread, enough said.

Str hybrid.
Believing a non-SA.
Your winnar.

You failed to realize that i've long treated your comments regarding my superior build as mere air, my friend.

And dont try to attempt to put words into my mouth again, I said im with nightv which means i support what he does. It doesnt mean that I do not use common sense and eats up every single thing that he says.

For example I dont have to be a SA or personally spoke to any GMs to know 100% sure that next update is going to be 300 skill mastery and level 80 cap.

Go make int bow as your second build ROFL.

Please hold both of your palms up close to your face, then reapeatedly swing them against your face several times. Done? now that you have bitchslap yourself for totally offtopic a thread Ill tell you that i already posted my last word regarding my build here http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic ... 2&start=60
My points have been proven, last word written, case closed. For any further idotic totally offtopic from you babel dramaqueens please go to that thread and read then reread it. thank you.

Pvp someone decent, make a video, until then, you suck, all str hybrids suck, all int bows suck, period.

[Douken]

this looks like fun

[c0kane]

Wow, this guy is retarded (not retarted, you jackass).

JoyMax may be understaffed but they can hire more competent people than you to relay messages.

[Uber_Wang]

Bottom line
nightv has virtually no clue what he is talking about (did you honestly make up half the stuff you wrote?) and he should not be defended for questioning the hardwork of the SAs

why he doesnt have a clue of what is he talking about?

Didn't know about SA's still existing, spreading rumors about 600 Cap when there is no fact behind it, giving advice about fraps, etc etc

The thing is this guy is trying to be helpful but he is just spewing his opinions laced with some info that he's received from Gargamel. I can't trust someone who will mix his own opinion with the fact and then call it fact.

Not to mention the "reason" he offered as an explanation as to why we get dropouts as being user-hardware/software related

This thread has been little more than more speculation and has proven itself to be "disinformation", which has served to muddy the waters yet again.

I don't doubt you have good intentions nightv but maybe next time when questions are asked you might check out an answer, and offer something credible instead of the the mixture of opinion and second hand info you have supplied.

It must be embarressing to you to have got everything so wrong.

[Douken]

why are you ppl arguing? (yeah I read the whole thread)

[Skitsefrenik]

why are you ppl arguing? (yeah I read the whole thread)

its basicaly people defending nightv and people trying to flame nightv....so far flamers ftw.

[Thesleeper]

Yeah its just comical, how some people have to insult and flame. Let me ask some of u these few short lil questions I ll keep them short because i know ur attention span is very limited:

1. How many of u have been to korea and met any of the gm`s ?
answer>>>Humm none huh

2. How many of u have actually had the chance to sit and discuss Isro with the above mentioned people?? (ohh forgot limited attention spans the gm`s)
answer>>>>Humm none huh

So in my best judgement if anyone would have some infomation it would be night and cuch, as i have heard the gm`s don`t either allow OR infom the sa`s, so maybe they knew these items but were not allowed to say or either the gm`s just did not inform the sa`s. In either case what we have here is a simple case of one person "TRYING" and i`m going to repeat that again "TRYING" to help those of us that play this game (and are as much in the dark about what who when and where anything is going to happen as the next guy) out with some of the info he heard while speaking in real life with the gm`s not the fairy godmother or the toothfairy, but the actual living breathing bad breath not perfect human beings we call gm`s . It doesn`t matter if his spelling isn`t perfect, it doesn`t matter wether some or all or none of u belive him it doesn`t matter......

WHAT MATTERS IS, HE IS TRYING

anyway im tired and going to bed, when ur my age sleep is important, and i ain`t gonna loose another min of it trying to teach u all some manners.

[Deutr0]

Ok I got tired of reading this crap, real info or not.
Nightv is just being an attention whore, trying to feel important, not giving any new info, just repeating himself, claiming he doesn't want to flame but also flames in half of his posts.


And as for that other "SA" sustyruwe(whatever) is full of it..

her #2 point about how JM benefits from CCF, should automatically make everything she says void and invalid..
CREDITORS DO NOT LET YOU KEEP STOLEN MONEY.
do you have any idea how fu-ing stupid that is.
it's obvious that this person has no idea what they are talking..

And if there is this supposed trade and party hack, why is it that everyone I know still actively plays and has not gotten hacked?

[Douken]

come on guys stop arguing already u don't make money getting mad

[nightv]

Ok I got tired of reading this crap, real info or not.
Nightv is just being an attention whore, trying to feel important, not giving any new info, just repeating himself, claiming he doesn't want to flame but also flames in half of his posts.


And as for that other "SA" sustyruwe(whatever) is full of it..

her #2 point about how JM benefits from CCF, should automatically make everything she says void and invalid..
CREDITORS DO NOT LET YOU KEEP STOLEN MONEY.
do you have any idea how fu-ing stupid that is.
it's obvious that this person has no idea what they are talking..

And if there is this supposed trade and party hack, why is it that everyone I know still actively plays and has not gotten hacked?

why is this topic still being talked on i said to let it die, do i need to ask the mod to lock this think. i tryed to help, you think this was fun, not realy this is a pain in the ass, one more time let this topic die!