Should I get a PS3 slim or 360 slim.

[Goseki]

I'm getting the option of getting one for free.

Which should I get? I already have a PS2 so controllers would be cheaper for ps3 cuz I could just buy the adapters. PSN is also free (course the recent hackings are a bummer). Also I'm not sure what Playstation plus is. Are they moving over to pay per year like Microsoft? The Steam thing coming to PS3 sounds interesting but I don't know much about it. Also, I heard PS3 fails less in general compared to 360. Yellow Light of Death?

On the other hand, 360 has bigger and better online content, and I do like the controller more. Downside is the online content requires $50 a year, but they get more releases earlier. 360 has quite a high fail right from what I hear. Instead of Red Ring of Death, it's not Red Dot of Death?

Friend-wise I have about the same amount that use each console so that's not really a factor for me.

[Miguez]

I'd say go for the games.

Like Halo and Gears Of War for 360 and Infamous, Gran Turismo, etc. for PS3.

[heroo]

so why don't you make choice and stop acting like you still don't know which one to get. you know all the pro's and cons. just buy one and save us this gay discussion which we already had a thousand times. ps3 fans go for ps3 and x-box fans go for x-box.

[Amarisa]

I'm getting the option of getting one for free.

Which should I get? I already have a PS2 so controllers would be cheaper for ps3 cuz I could just buy the adapters. PSN is also free (course the recent hackings are a bummer). Also I'm not sure what Playstation plus is. Are they moving over to pay per year like Microsoft? The Steam thing coming to PS3 sounds interesting but I don't know much about it. Also, I heard PS3 fails less in general compared to 360. Yellow Light of Death?

On the other hand, 360 has bigger and better online content, and I do like the controller more. Downside is the online content requires $50 a year, but they get more releases earlier. 360 has quite a high fail right from what I hear. Instead of Red Ring of Death, it's not Red Dot of Death?

Friend-wise I have about the same amount that use each console so that's not really a factor for me.

I had a 360 for awhile and honestly I didn't really like paying for live. I bought the game I shouldn't have to buy online service. But maybe that's why they can sell their boxes so cheap. They figure people are going to buy live and they will get their money in years time.

PS3 on the otherhand I did some reaserch and many have said Xbox was better for online play PS3 had the features.

Also you shouldn't have to worry about failure rates IF you take care of it. Like dust it once a month and replace the factory thermal paste with some artic silver when it's out of warrenty. That is if you feel like messing with the X-Clamps on the xbox or what ever PS3 has.

and no the X-Clamps are not the cause of the red lights of death.

[Goseki]

so why don't you make choice and stop acting like you still don't know which one to get. you know all the pro's and cons. just buy one and save us this gay discussion which we already had a thousand times. ps3 fans go for ps3 and x-box fans go for x-box.

Cuz I don't.... I'm not a fan of either. They gave us a ps3 by default, but we have the receipt so we can easily swap it for a 360.


I'm not sure I can use ps2 controllers for the ps3 slim though... kinda disappointed if that's true...

[Shomari]

so why don't you make choice and stop acting like you still don't know which one to get. you know all the pro's and cons. just buy one and save us this gay discussion which we already had a thousand times. ps3 fans go for ps3 and x-box fans go for x-box.

Cuz I don't.... I'm not a fan of either. They gave us a ps3 by default, but we have the receipt so we can easily swap it for a 360.


I'm not sure I can use ps2 controllers for the ps3 slim though... kinda disappointed if that's true...

Which controller feels more comfortable?
What do your friends have?

Only questions you need to ask to decide which one to get.

[CrimsonNuker]

Red Ring of Death is pretty much nonexistent on the xbox slims afaik.

[Goseki]

Red Ring of Death is pretty much nonexistent on the xbox slims afaik.

Is it? I've looked around on youtube and googled it and yea RROD doesn't exist on the 360 slims, but that's because they took the light out right? I've heard of several cases where it's not the Red Dot of Death. Apparently the backup mechanism which shuts down the 360 and shows the red dot is suppose to allow for the console to cool, but people are reporting that it ends up stuck in that red dot stage.

So I picked up the PS3 today, still in the box and they gave us the 160g slim version with Black Ops. A bit surprise as I was just expecting a console only. The receipt said 299.99 so basically I can still exchange it for a 360. Still in the box.

My friends have 360s and PS3. What are some good games? I know about Halo that's xbox exclusive, but that's really it.

Does anyone here have a ps3 and know how the Steam thing works? Can you play all you steam games on there or what is it for?

You need xbox live gold for netflix right? What about Ps3?

[satman83]

so why don't you make choice and stop acting like you still don't know which one to get. you know all the pro's and cons. just buy one and save us this gay discussion which we already had a thousand times. ps3 fans go for ps3 and x-box fans go for x-box.

[Mirosuke]

http://www.amazon.com/review/R234OYV0YW ... OYV0YWWO93

Spoiler!

The PS3 is a great system. Easy to use, futuristic on-screen interface, quality sleek hardware, awesome graphics, lots of benefits. But should you get a PS3 or Xbox 360? And what about the Wii?

Note: I own all three devices, and I appreciate all of them. I don't have any bias to one system or the other, just my personal experience and opinion...

PS3============================================
What I like MOST about the PS3:
1) Future proof Blu-ray player (Sony updates the player over the Internet for free; it now supports 3D movies/TVs)
2) Clean, more futuristic on-screen interface (feels more mature then Xbox 360)
3) Better/Smoother/Faster graphics (in the 10+ games I own on a 60" 1080p HDTV)
4) Free online multiplayer gaming (no monthly/yearly fees like Xbox 360; which I hate about Xbox)
5) Watch your online netflix shows on PS3 for free (Xbox requires Xbox live account to use your netflix account; another thing I hate about Xbox)
6) Exterior: More futuristic, luxurious, mature "look". Looks more like a sleek Home Theater appliance. (Xbox 360 more oriented to youthful crowd; Xbox looks more like an 'entertainment' device)
7) Lighter, slimmer, smaller controller. Built-in longer lasting rechargeable battery. (the Xbox controller does not come with a standard rechargeable battery, and it feels heavier and more bloated then the PS3 controller).
Built-in wireless connectivity. (an option on the Xbox)
9) Built-in optical/toslink connectivity for home theatre audio connection. (an option on the Xbox)
10) I can use my (or any) wireless blue-tooth cell phone headset for voice/chat enabled games. (The Xbox cannot)

What I like LEAST about the PS3:
1) My first PS3 (the 'fat' one) had a disc drive failure after 13 months of ownership; 1 month beyond its warranty. The PS3 still works, I just cant use discs. That means I cant watch blu-ray discs on it and I cant play disc based games on it. I can still play games through the PlayStation store (demos, etc), I still can watch netflix on it, and I still can watch movies from my PCs over the network on it. The fact that my PS3 disc drive died after about 1 year of limited delicate usage really concerns me about the quality of the hardware and customer support/treatment. I paid over $400 for my first PS3, and I used it maybe twice a week. After searching the web about my problem, I found this was a rampant problem with the fat PS3. Did they fix this problem with the slim PS3? Time will tell; I sure hope so. I just wish Sony would have fixed my problem for free (as I feel it was shoddy hardware or poor engineering that resulted in this problem, not me).
2) Games (new and used) are generally more expensive then the Xbox 360.
3) I liked the glossy look of the first generation PS3. The new PS3 slim looks a little flimsier/cheaper. It is smaller though, and that's a plus.
4) The rechargeable battery in the PS3 controller is not swappable. That means if your controller dies mid-game, you have to plug it in to use it. (The Xbox controller has swappable batteries)
5) When I download a game (full or demo), I can't play it immediately. After the download (which could take over an hour), I have to install the game (which could take another 10-30+ minutes), at which time my PS3 is unusable until it completes. The Xbox downloads in the background and plays immediately without having to install the game. Also, if I turn off the PS3, the download stops (the Xbox finishes the download even when turned off).

Xbox 360============================================
What I like MOST about the Xbox 360:
1) More people have it. In other words, all my friends, family and coworkers have Xbox 360s. Which also means if I want to play online with them, I have to use my Xbox, which is also a con for me. (I'd rather use my PS3 because of the better graphics and lighter/smaller controller).
2) I can download games, updates and demos in the background, even with the Xbox turned off. So I can start a download and go to bed without leaving the box on all night. (The PS3 cant do this)
3) When I download a game (full or demo), I can play it immediately. On the PS3, you have to download it (which could take over an hour), then install it (which could take another 10-30+ minutes), at which time your PS3 is unusable until it completes.
4) My late generation Xbox elite has lasted longer then my first generation PS3 (surprisingly)
5) It doubles as a Media Center extender. I have a PC that records shows for me in Media Center (like a Tivo but no monthly fees). I can access these shows and watch live TV over the network via my Xbox. This is a VERY cool and under-talked about feature. And most people with a Windows PC can do this; look it up.
6) The console and games (new and used) are cheaper then the PS3.

What I like LEAST about the Xbox 360:
1) Still no blu-ray player. This is a major con compared to the PS3. It WILL play regular DVDs, however.
2) In my experience, graphics are a little lower quality then my PS3. In Grand Theft Auto IV, I can see farther and more objects at a time on my PS3. The PS3 has a faster frame rate, where the Xbox feels almost blurry. The colors are more crisp on the PS3, the Xbox is more washed out, like water colors. Some may not even notice this, I do.
3) No built-in wireless connectivity. You have to buy a very expensive adapter to have wireless connectivity.
4) No built-in optical/toslink connectivity for home theatre audio connection. You have to buy an adapter to do this.
5) No rechargeable battery. You have to buy a rechargeable battery and kit to do this.
6) Not a major deal, but the on-screen interface is more kid-feeling then the PS3. I'm an adult and the PS3 feels more like its targeted to adults then children/teenagers.
7) YOU HAVE TO PAY TO PLAY ONLINE. I don't understand this. It's ridiculous to me. It's way overpriced. I can't play online with my friends unless I buy a monthly or yearly Xbox live pass. I hate this about the Xbox. I HATE THIS. I already gave them hundreds of dollars in the console, games and accessories; stop asking me to pay to play. As you can see, this is a major con to me. I also cant watch my Netflix account without paying for an Xbox live account. Boo!
The Xbox has a pretty bad reliability record. I believe they have eliminated most of the issues that plagued the earlier consoles, however. My neighbor has replaced his Xbox 4 times; FOUR TIMES! I have not. He plays his every day all day though; I play once or twice a week for less then an hour.

Wii============================================
I bought the Wii after playing it at a friends house. I was blown away by the idea and experience of motion based controllers. We played golf, boxing, tennis, ping pong; it was an amazing experience - for the first time.
After I had the Wii, I quickly lost interest.
Here's why:
1) Horrible graphics. I paid a lot of money to have a 60" High Definition full 1080p home theatre. The Wii graphics look like absolute kiddy crap on my TV. The Wii has no high def. Its like playing a first generation Nintendo NES on a HDTV. Its horrible, and for this 1 reason I can no longer enjoy my Wii. Nintendo is way behind the modern day high end graphics of today.
2) The motion controller novelty has worn off. Its fun on a few games, horrible on others. I don't know, the novelty of the Wii has just worn off for me; and several of my friends.
3) It just doesn't feel like a modern quality device. While I'm sure its reliable, it just feels like a child's toy; the exterior, the interface, the games, etc. Sorry, I guess I've just grown up.

Conclusion============================================
In conclusion, I would say the Wii is more suited to young children. The Xbox is a great device, and so is the PS3. I can live without my Wii; but I would have a hard time choosing between the Xbox and PS3. For that reason, I choose to have both. If Xbox made online multiplayer free (eliminated the Xbox live cost), and included a blu-ray player, I would choose the Xbox over a PS3 (even with the better graphics on the PS3). But for now, I say buy both. By the Xbox as a gaming device, and justify the PS3 as blu-ray player with benefits.

If your a parent shopping for a teenager and only want to buy 1 device, go for the Xbox 360. Chances are, most of your child's friends will already have one, and they can all play online.

If your an adult that demands the best and has little time to play games (like myself), get a PS3. Its sleek, its got better graphics, its wireless, and it has a blu-ray player.

[KillAndChill]

My friends have 360s and PS3. What are some good games? I know about Halo that's xbox exclusive, but that's really it.

Make sure you grab GTA IV. inFAMOUS is pretty good too.

Does anyone here have a ps3 and know how the Steam thing works? Can you play all you steam games on there or what is it for?

It is a per game thing. Not built into the ps3.

You need xbox live gold for netflix right? What about Ps3?

Don't need anything. PS3 has no online fees.

[Toshiharu]

ps3 fans go for ps3 and x-box fans go for x-box.

Not really. I chose my PS3 mainly for a couple reasons.

-Metal Gear Solid 4 was a main reason
-Free online due to the amount of time I use my PS3

Though am I a fan now? I guess.

My friends have 360s and PS3. What are some good games? I know about Halo that's xbox exclusive, but that's really it.

Does anyone here have a ps3 and know how the Steam thing works? Can you play all you steam games on there or what is it for?

You need xbox live gold for netflix right? What about Ps3?

Well if your friends have both consoles then I don't see that being the influence like usual.

Good exclusive games? Well the ones I own.. inFamous, Little Big Planet(With friends. I have to stress this, because people bitch and moan that the game is boring.. and they're playing alone), Uncharted 1(I do plan on buying 2 and 3, but not now. I'm cheap), God of War Collection + 3, Gran Turismo 5(Though the game does get to become a grind later on. Also fun to play with a buddy watching you if you have a steering wheel), Metal Gear Solid 4.

Good games in general. Red Dead Redemption, Grand Theft Auto 4, Portal 2.

The way Steam works that it's built into the game and it's a very very simple application in it. You log in, or create an account through the little menu for Steam. All you can do with Steam through Portal 2 is save your game to the cloud, talk to people on Steam, and auto syncs achievements to Steam. Nothing too special. I hope they expand on it.

Live subscrptions says you need gold to use Netflix. PS3 you just download Netflix off the video section and log in. Simple. No need to pay extra.

PS3 on the otherhand I did some reaserch and many have said Xbox was better for online play PS3 had the features.

Online quality is still the game. Peer 2 peer. Games that set up their own dedicated servers are a different story which AFAIK Microsoft does not do. Being able to talk to another friend with cross over chat is a neat thing, but that's all I can think of.

[CrimsonNuker]

Red Ring of Death is pretty much nonexistent on the xbox slims afaik.

My friends have 360s and PS3. What are some good games? I know about Halo that's xbox exclusive, but that's really it.

Gears 3 coming out this year, Prototype 2 (Counterpart to inFamous2) also coming out.

Metal Gear (solid?) RISING will be an xbox exclusive afaik.
And Kojima is said to be in the works of a multi-platform game.

[Toshiharu]

Metal Gear (solid?) RISING will be an xbox exclusive afaik.
And Kojima is said to be in the works of a multi-platform game.

It's not an exclusive. It'll be available for PS3 and 360. However Kojima is an executive producer on the game.

[Goseki]

Thank-you to all the helpful replies.

I went with PS3 since me and my gf aren't really that big of a gamer thing. The thing that did it for me was the whole we can use netflix without needing to pay other shit. We don't play that often but we do watch Netflix a lot so paying 50$ just to make sure I can watch netflix seemed too much for me. That and this was a free PS3 so I can't complain. Turns out it comes with Black Ops and the First STrike pack whatever that is. Still slowly getting things hooked up here.

[Amarisa]

PS3 on the otherhand I did some reaserch and many have said Xbox was better for online play PS3 had the features.

Online quality is still the game. Peer 2 peer. Games that set up their own dedicated servers are a different story which AFAIK Microsoft does not do. Being able to talk to another friend with cross over chat is a neat thing, but that's all I can think of.

I said play not quality. Meaning in terms of online play and your general experience online xbox would be better then the PS3.

[MrJoey]

http://www.amazon.com/review/R234OYV0YWWO93/ref=cm_cr_pr_viewpnt#R234OYV0YWWO93

Spoiler!

The PS3 is a great system. Easy to use, futuristic on-screen interface, quality sleek hardware, awesome graphics, lots of benefits. But should you get a PS3 or Xbox 360? And what about the Wii?

Note: I own all three devices, and I appreciate all of them. I don't have any bias to one system or the other, just my personal experience and opinion...

PS3============================================
What I like MOST about the PS3:
1) Future proof Blu-ray player (Sony updates the player over the Internet for free; it now supports 3D movies/TVs)
2) Clean, more futuristic on-screen interface (feels more mature then Xbox 360) Especially ever since xbox started that crappy mii knockoff
3) Better/Smoother/Faster graphics (in the 10+ games I own on a 60" 1080p HDTV)
4) Free online multiplayer gaming (no monthly/yearly fees like Xbox 360; which I hate about Xbox)
5) Watch your online netflix shows on PS3 for free (Xbox requires Xbox live account to use your netflix account; another thing I hate about Xbox)
6) Exterior: More futuristic, luxurious, mature "look". Looks more like a sleek Home Theater appliance. (Xbox 360 more oriented to youthful crowd; Xbox looks more like an 'entertainment' device)
7) Lighter, slimmer, smaller controller. Built-in longer lasting rechargeable battery. (the Xbox controller does not come with a standard rechargeable battery, and it feels heavier and more bloated then the PS3 controller).
Built-in wireless connectivity. (an option on the Xbox) No longer true, all slim Xbox's come with wireless, but this was a big one in my decision back in the day.
9) Built-in optical/toslink connectivity for home theatre audio connection. (an option on the Xbox) Same as 8
10) I can use my (or any) wireless blue-tooth cell phone headset for voice/chat enabled games. (The Xbox cannot) Bluetooth is usually terrible voice chat quality anyways, not that big of a plus

What I like LEAST about the PS3:
1) My first PS3 (the 'fat' one) had a disc drive failure after 13 months of ownership; 1 month beyond its warranty. The PS3 still works, I just cant use discs. That means I cant watch blu-ray discs on it and I cant play disc based games on it. I can still play games through the PlayStation store (demos, etc), I still can watch netflix on it, and I still can watch movies from my PCs over the network on it. The fact that my PS3 disc drive died after about 1 year of limited delicate usage really concerns me about the quality of the hardware and customer support/treatment. I paid over $400 for my first PS3, and I used it maybe twice a week. After searching the web about my problem, I found this was a rampant problem with the fat PS3. Did they fix this problem with the slim PS3? Time will tell; I sure hope so. I just wish Sony would have fixed my problem for free (as I feel it was shoddy hardware or poor engineering that resulted in this problem, not me). Haven't seen such a problem for myself or my friends (5+) that have ps3
2) Games (new and used) are generally more expensive then the Xbox 360. I have seen no such difference in price, ever.
3) I liked the glossy look of the first generation PS3. The new PS3 slim looks a little flimsier/cheaper. It is smaller though, and that's a plus.
4) The rechargeable battery in the PS3 controller is not swappable. That means if your controller dies mid-game, you have to plug it in to use it. (The Xbox controller has swappable batteries)
5) When I download a game (full or demo), I can't play it immediately. After the download (which could take over an hour), I have to install the game (which could take another 10-30+ minutes), at which time my PS3 is unusable until it completes. The Xbox downloads in the background and plays immediately without having to install the game. Also, if I turn off the PS3, the download stops (the Xbox finishes the download even when turned off). He should have mentioned, that the actual download itself can happen in the background, but as for installation, I agree. Though you can set it to download file before shutting off ps3.

Xbox 360============================================
What I like MOST about the Xbox 360:
1) More people have it. In other words, all my friends, family and coworkers have Xbox 360s. Which also means if I want to play online with them, I have to use my Xbox, which is also a con for me. (I'd rather use my PS3 because of the better graphics and lighter/smaller controller). Depends on the person, none of my closest friends have xbox360
2) I can download games, updates and demos in the background, even with the Xbox turned off. So I can start a download and go to bed without leaving the box on all night. (The PS3 cant do this)
3) When I download a game (full or demo), I can play it immediately. On the PS3, you have to download it (which could take over an hour), then install it (which could take another 10-30+ minutes), at which time your PS3 is unusable until it completes.
4) My late generation Xbox elite has lasted longer then my first generation PS3 (surprisingly)
5) It doubles as a Media Center extender. I have a PC that records shows for me in Media Center (like a Tivo but no monthly fees). I can access these shows and watch live TV over the network via my Xbox. This is a VERY cool and under-talked about feature. And most people with a Windows PC can do this; look it up.
6) The console and games (new and used) are cheaper then the PS3. Not true

What I like LEAST about the Xbox 360:
1) Still no blu-ray player. This is a major con compared to the PS3. It WILL play regular DVDs, however.
2) In my experience, graphics are a little lower quality then my PS3. In Grand Theft Auto IV, I can see farther and more objects at a time on my PS3. The PS3 has a faster frame rate, where the Xbox feels almost blurry. The colors are more crisp on the PS3, the Xbox is more washed out, like water colors. Some may not even notice this, I do. This is a matter of debate, every game that comes out, there's people that say the xbox has better look, others say ps3, in fact, both seem to do certain things better than the other.
3) No built-in wireless connectivity. You have to buy a very expensive adapter to have wireless connectivity. See above
4) No built-in optical/toslink connectivity for home theatre audio connection. You have to buy an adapter to do this.
5) No rechargeable battery. You have to buy a rechargeable battery and kit to do this. Microsoft: Optional features not included because we want you to pay out the ass for them.
6) Not a major deal, but the on-screen interface is more kid-feeling then the PS3. I'm an adult and the PS3 feels more like its targeted to adults then children/teenagers.
7) YOU HAVE TO PAY TO PLAY ONLINE. I don't understand this. It's ridiculous to me. It's way overpriced. I can't play online with my friends unless I buy a monthly or yearly Xbox live pass. I hate this about the Xbox. I HATE THIS. I already gave them hundreds of dollars in the console, games and accessories; stop asking me to pay to play. As you can see, this is a major con to me. I also cant watch my Netflix account without paying for an Xbox live account. Boo! Agreed, but often times the online service seems to be better, more games, easier connectivity.
The Xbox has a pretty bad reliability record. I believe they have eliminated most of the issues that plagued the earlier consoles, however. My neighbor has replaced his Xbox 4 times; FOUR TIMES! I have not. He plays his every day all day though; I play once or twice a week for less then an hour.

Wii============================================
I bought the Wii after playing it at a friends house. I was blown away by the idea and experience of motion based controllers. We played golf, boxing, tennis, ping pong; it was an amazing experience - for the first time.
After I had the Wii, I quickly lost interest.
Here's why:
1) Horrible graphics. I paid a lot of money to have a 60" High Definition full 1080p home theatre. The Wii graphics look like absolute kiddy crap on my TV. The Wii has no high def. Its like playing a first generation Nintendo NES on a HDTV. Its horrible, and for this 1 reason I can no longer enjoy my Wii. Nintendo is way behind the modern day high end graphics of today. While graphics aren't everything, they do help, and wii could have had at least 720p available without boosting its price I bet.
2) The motion controller novelty has worn off. Its fun on a few games, horrible on others. I don't know, the novelty of the Wii has just worn off for me; and several of my friends. It's completely inaccurate, and just blows overall imo.
3) It just doesn't feel like a modern quality device. While I'm sure its reliable, it just feels like a child's toy; the exterior, the interface, the games, etc. Sorry, I guess I've just grown up.

Conclusion============================================
In conclusion, I would say the Wii is more suited to young children. The Xbox is a great device, and so is the PS3. I can live without my Wii; but I would have a hard time choosing between the Xbox and PS3. For that reason, I choose to have both. If Xbox made online multiplayer free (eliminated the Xbox live cost), and included a blu-ray player, I would choose the Xbox over a PS3 (even with the better graphics on the PS3). But for now, I say buy both. By the Xbox as a gaming device, and justify the PS3 as blu-ray player with benefits.

If your a parent shopping for a teenager and only want to buy 1 device, go for the Xbox 360. Chances are, most of your child's friends will already have one, and they can all play online.

If your an adult that demands the best and has little time to play games (like myself), get a PS3. Its sleek, its got better graphics, its wireless, and it has a blu-ray player.

Added a few responses to the spoiler, obviously it's a little outdated though.

[TheDrop]

so why don't you make choice and stop acting like you still don't know which one to get. you know all the pro's and cons. just buy one and save us this gay discussion which we already had a thousand times. ps3 fans go for ps3 and x-box fans go for x-box.

Id agree tbh..

Anyways id say get ps3, has blu-ray player which you will need later on anyways, paying for internet blows & isnt a new xbox coming out soon anyways?

You can also get the PS3 and then trade it for my totally awesome xbox 360 if you dont like it