New computer

lulDURRR · Post by **lulDURRR** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:51 am

So im new but i want to make a new computer this is what ive picked out so far

Love · Post by **Love** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 4:24 am

mobo and cpu seem overpriced, rethink those. about the psu you only want around 550, if you need more than that you may want to rethink your build.

Azilius · Post by **Azilius** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 4:32 am

Love wrote:mobo and cpu seem overpriced, rethink those. about the psu you only want around 550, if you need more than that you may want to rethink your build.

Those are standard prices for those 2 things. Neither are on sale if that's what you mean =\

Love · Post by **Love** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:04 am

what i mean is that he doesnt need to spend that much on cpu/mobo

Post by **Majorharper** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 11:30 am

Do you REALLY need that mobo? seriously? Thats WAY too much for your needs to be honest... Unless you tell me you have 3 external HDD, a joystick, a steering wheel, a USB mic, and 2 USB keys... You can easily cut down 40 - 50$ on that, and the CPU, you don't need 3.3GHz again, easy 50 - 70$ on that.

The card isn't impressive for the price, I have one just a bit less powerful (ATi 5670) for 80$ less...

Rethink about it, unless your money doesn't matter then fine

Razorhead · Post by **Razorhead** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:49 pm

I have the p67a-gd65 too, it's a really nice mobo

price difference between i5 & i7? (k versions)

Also, get a new cpu cooling unit, stock cooler sux (trust me)
I just ordered Scythe Mugen II rev B
http://www.scythe-eu.com/en/products/cpu-cooler/mugen-2-rev-b.html

Just check if ur RAMs aren't too high if u chose to buy the Mugen II (only a problem when u have
more than 2 RAM bars) No problems with normal height RAM.
Also, 4GB RAM is a bit on the low side (at least 6GB is advised, 8GB recommended)

As for ur PSU, u should google max Watt usage of ur graphic card. Depending on max usage, go 550 or 750Watt. Preferably go with a PSU that is modular (no extra wires getting in the way)

Don't take that black caviar (Sata 2 ><)
Go with Sata 3, if the black caviars are too expensive go with blue (faak green power)
Black is really only useful if ur pc runs 24/7 365/365

As for graka, following passmark
http://www.passmark.com
maybe Radeon 6950HD instead of Radeon 6870 HD (only 20$ more, keep eye out for difference in RAM)

What are u going to use this pc for? Gaming, Movie Encoding/Editing?, ...?

Azilius · Post by **Azilius** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:55 pm

Master_of_Puppets wrote:Do you REALLY need that mobo? seriously? Thats WAY too much for your needs to be honest... Unless you tell me you have 3 external HDD, a joystick, a steering wheel, a USB mic, and 2 USB keys... You can easily cut down 40 - 50$ on that, and the CPU, you don't need 3.3GHz again, easy 50 - 70$ on that.

The card isn't impressive for the price, I have one just a bit less powerful (ATi 5670) for 80$ less...

Rethink about it, unless your money doesn't matter then fine

Uhhhhh how can you know his needs? Maybe he plans on using all PCI slots on that Mobo and using it's features to get the most out of his overclock?

The CPU is the new sandy bridge i5 unlocked. No surprise that people want to buy the latest line to future proof as much as possible. Don't really see an issue there...

The graphics card is actually multiple times better than the one you stated by the way. The closest thing to a benchmark comparison I could find was this lol

http://www.hwcompare.com/6013/radeon-hd ... n-hd-6870/

@ Razor
There's no logical reason to get SATA 3 as the drive itself can't deliver data at the speeds it allows (6 Gbit/s).

hscorp · Post by **hscorp** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:06 pm

Cool stuff but i think get for the Ram get more than 4 and Optical Drive get blue-ray and get Case with water cooling system

lulDURRR · Post by **lulDURRR** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:31 pm

ok so im making this pc for extreme gaming and im getting all this for free so money is no problem...

and about the power supply still no answer? :s

lulDURRR · Post by **lulDURRR** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:33 pm

Azilius wrote:
Master_of_Puppets wrote:Do you REALLY need that mobo? seriously? Thats WAY too much for your needs to be honest... Unless you tell me you have 3 external HDD, a joystick, a steering wheel, a USB mic, and 2 USB keys... You can easily cut down 40 - 50$ on that, and the CPU, you don't need 3.3GHz again, easy 50 - 70$ on that.

The card isn't impressive for the price, I have one just a bit less powerful (ATi 5670) for 80$ less...

Rethink about it, unless your money doesn't matter then fine

Uhhhhh how can you know his needs? Maybe he plans on using all PCI slots on that Mobo and using it's features to get the most out of his overclock?

The CPU is the new sandy bridge i5 unlocked. No surprise that people want to buy the latest line to future proof as much as possible. Don't really see an issue there...

The graphics card is actually multiple times better than the one you stated by the way. The closest thing to a benchmark comparison I could find was this lol

http://www.hwcompare.com/6013/radeon-hd ... n-hd-6870/

@ Razor
There's no logical reason to get SATA 3 as the drive itself can't deliver data at the speeds it allows (6 Gbit/s).

lol this man knows whats up ya im going to overclock the shit out of this pc and if im able i might full up all the pci slots

Fiction · Post by **Fiction** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:35 pm

Don't double post!!!

Fiction · Post by **Fiction** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:36 pm

Don't double post!!!

Azilius · Post by **Azilius** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:24 pm

Since you're using a mid tower I'd get a modular PSU, makes cable management less of a nightmare. I got a 750W for my set up (q6600, gtx 285). Works fine.

I think the minimum for a 6870 is 500W. Should be fine with a 600. Could bump it up to a 750 or 800 if you're eventually going to crossfire another card.

edit
if you're filling up all pci slots then ya get a 700-800

Fiction · Post by **Fiction** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:34 pm

Azilius wrote:Since you're using a mid tower I'd get a modular PSU, makes cable management less of a nightmare. I got a 750W for my set up (q6600, gtx 285). Works fine.

I think the minimum for a 6870 is 500W. Should be fine with a 600. Could bump it up to a 750 or 800 if you're eventually going to crossfire another card.

edit
if you're filling up all pci slots then ya get a 700-800

^ was going to be my advice, but was too busy trollin :soosad:

Post by **Majorharper** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 11:14 pm

lulDURRR wrote:
Azilius wrote:
Master_of_Puppets wrote:Do you REALLY need that mobo? seriously? Thats WAY too much for your needs to be honest... Unless you tell me you have 3 external HDD, a joystick, a steering wheel, a USB mic, and 2 USB keys... You can easily cut down 40 - 50$ on that, and the CPU, you don't need 3.3GHz again, easy 50 - 70$ on that.

The card isn't impressive for the price, I have one just a bit less powerful (ATi 5670) for 80$ less...

Rethink about it, unless your money doesn't matter then fine

Uhhhhh how can you know his needs? Maybe he plans on using all PCI slots on that Mobo and using it's features to get the most out of his overclock?

The CPU is the new sandy bridge i5 unlocked. No surprise that people want to buy the latest line to future proof as much as possible. Don't really see an issue there...

The graphics card is actually multiple times better than the one you stated by the way. The closest thing to a benchmark comparison I could find was this lol

http://www.hwcompare.com/6013/radeon-hd ... n-hd-6870/

@ Razor
There's no logical reason to get SATA 3 as the drive itself can't deliver data at the speeds it allows (6 Gbit/s).

lol this man knows whats up ya im going to overclock the shit out of this pc and if im able i might full up all the pci slots

Send us pics when it'll burn :sohappy:

If your so god dam fancy, and "money is free" why not get liquid cooled? Much more efficient than a fan, just gotta be careful with it...

And LUL? EXTREME gaming PC, with 4GB of ram? sorry but LuLz

If money free for you why not get this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6811235013
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819115223
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6822145489
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820231458
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813121362
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6817703020
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814121388

edit: It's only about 15,000$

/rage

lulDURRR · Post by **lulDURRR** » Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:27 am

lol your kinda retarded puppets
i never said i was money free i just said im gettin those parts for free cause of my graduation...

dont assume things before listening to the full story so please get out of my thread if you have nothing good to say...

heroo · Post by **heroo** » Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:31 am

lulDURRR wrote:lol your kinda retarded puppets
i never said i was money free i just said im gettin those parts for free cause of my graduation...

dont assume things before listening to the full story so please get out of my thread if you have nothing good to say...

n1gga with attitude.

Post by **Majorharper** » Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:32 am

lulDURRR wrote:lol your kinda retarded puppets
i never said i was money free i just said im gettin those parts for free cause of my graduation...

dont assume things before listening to the full story so please get out of my thread if you have nothing good to say...

herp herp herp

Azilius · Post by **Azilius** » Tue Apr 05, 2011 3:28 am

Master_of_Puppets wrote:
lulDURRR wrote:
Azilius wrote:

Uhhhhh how can you know his needs? Maybe he plans on using all PCI slots on that Mobo and using it's features to get the most out of his overclock?

The CPU is the new sandy bridge i5 unlocked. No surprise that people want to buy the latest line to future proof as much as possible. Don't really see an issue there...

The graphics card is actually multiple times better than the one you stated by the way. The closest thing to a benchmark comparison I could find was this lol

http://www.hwcompare.com/6013/radeon-hd ... n-hd-6870/

@ Razor
There's no logical reason to get SATA 3 as the drive itself can't deliver data at the speeds it allows (6 Gbit/s).

lol this man knows whats up ya im going to overclock the shit out of this pc and if im able i might full up all the pci slots

Send us pics when it'll burn

If your so god dam fancy, and "money is free" why not get liquid cooled? Much more efficient than a fan, just gotta be careful with it...

And LUL? EXTREME gaming PC, with 4GB of ram? sorry but LuLz

If money free for you why not get this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6811235013
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819115223
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6822145489
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820231458
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813121362
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6817703020
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814121388

edit: It's only about 15,000$

/rage

Well I really don't think he'll be needing a 10 pack of motherboards, nor an HDD designed for continuous 24/7 use. Don't think he'll be needing 24gb of memory when 4gb is plenty for any gaming.

But I guess he'll be needing 6 cores since all of the newer generation games make full use of those. Oh hey look a nice comparison http://hwbot.org/forum/showthread.php?t=17010

Why the attitude, you offered some advice without any context to begin with =|

if you think overclocking something will make it burn..Hell even with the stock HSF you can overclock those CPU's heavily without worrying too much.

Post by **LillDev!l** » Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:25 am

4 GB's of ram isnt that much of a nightmare either, with a sapphire 5770 vapor-x and an i5 760 it easely pulls black ops on max settings on a 19" screen.
I've put in an other 4 GB's myself though, 8 fit better with the rest of the pc xD but 4 wasn't a huge problem either.

Post by **Majorharper** » Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:17 am

Iunno I have 4GB and I find I need 6GB...

And Azilius, I had a fixed budget, my goal was precise, unlike this guy, he is unclear, he said he wants an "extreme" gaming pc, yet he shows us a regular pc...

Amarisa · Post by **Amarisa** » Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:19 pm

Do I need to save this thread?

The PC he has shown here is not an "Extreme" but Enthusiast level. He plans to overclock and does have the right type of motherboard to take advantage of Intel's unlocked multiplier on it's K models.

The motherboard has 4 slots and he could get a total of 8GB of ram if need be. Which is MORE then enough for gaming.

HDD wise if you wanted to go to the extreme levels invest in an SSD.

GPU is not the "best on the market" but is one of the most powerful single cards out there. (6970 is basically a 6870X2 same as 5970 is 5870X2)

PSU I would suggest 550W unless you plan to have a lot of connected devices. Then try for 600W. If you plan to crossfire go for 700W+. Also I suggest modular might be a bit more expensive then a regular but in the end keeps things cooler.

I also suggest a CPU cooler if you plan to overclock. Invest in filling the case up with fans and design the airflow properly.

Azilius · Post by **Azilius** » Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:12 pm

Master_of_Puppets wrote:Iunno I have 4GB and I find I need 6GB...

And Azilius, I had a fixed budget, my goal was precise, unlike this guy, he is unclear, he said he wants an "extreme" gaming pc, yet he shows us a regular pc...

Lol I really don't think a regular PC is a brand new Sandy Bridge CPU with a higher end motherboard and more or less all enthusiast parts.

My point was you don't have to be a bitch for no reason..especially when your advice was subpar

DinoNuggets · Post by **DinoNuggets** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:32 pm

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... -_-Product
go with that as a motherboard seems like you like red and black and its like 70 bucks cheaper... i dont know if biostar makes good mobos but its cheap and nice

Amarisa · Post by **Amarisa** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 10:03 pm

DinoNuggets wrote:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138296&cm_re=LGA_1155-_-13-138-296-_-Product
go with that as a motherboard seems like you like red and black and its like 70 bucks cheaper... i dont know if biostar makes good mobos but its cheap and nice

But does not support high memory speeds only goes to 1333. The MSI supports up to 2133.

Also the biostar PCI-E is x16/x4 as the MSI is x16 for both.

MSI has 8 Channel audio (matters to some people.)

MSI has More USB

MSI has eSATA

MSI has 1394(Firewire)

MSI is ATX not MicroATX

For $70 you get that plus some overclocking features.

Not that the one you posted is bad. Just to fit the "Extreme" he is going for the MSI wins.

DinoNuggets · Post by **DinoNuggets** » Mon Apr 11, 2011 3:00 am

ive been wondering about how hes gonna install the operating system(windows 7)
like hes making his own pc so how does one install it?
im newb with pc's so sorry if thats a noob question or soemthing xD

Azilius · Post by **Azilius** » Mon Apr 11, 2011 3:06 am

DinoNuggets wrote:ive been wondering about how hes gonna install the operating system(windows 7)
like hes making his own pc so how does one install it?
im newb with pc's so sorry if thats a noob question or soemthing xD

Basically the computer starts up off the CD you insert and installs windows to the harddrive from the CD. There are operating system live CD's which are essentially just run from a CD instead of having to be installed fully (useful if windows gets messed up or other various reasons).

Amarisa · Post by **Amarisa** » Mon Apr 11, 2011 3:47 am

DinoNuggets wrote:ive been wondering about how hes gonna install the operating system(windows 7)
like hes making his own pc so how does one install it?
im newb with pc's so sorry if thats a noob question or soemthing xD

http://www.ehow.com/how_4424376_install ... puter.html

This kinda gives you a step by step.

Basicly that Win7 OEM disk has a mini version of windows on it (in simple terms)

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