AvAlAnChE1 wrote:At one time =P Look at it now haha
yea, and 15 of the fire votes probably came from people who had never tried either. all they did was read biggie's guide and assume he's right. hmm, let's put out a guide slamming one of the choices while there's a poll up, and see what happens..... have you ever heard of mudslinging during an electiion?
AvAlAnChE1 wrote:At one time =P Look at it now haha
yea, and 15 of the fire votes probably came from people who had never tried either. all they did was read biggie's guide and assume he's right. hmm, let's put out a guide slamming one of the choices while there's a poll up, and see what happens..... have you ever heard of mudslinging during an electiion?
God damn! I say one thing and I have people jumping all over my ass. You guys love starting fires. If I get one reply to this post, I sware to god.
Characters - Atlas Stats: Pure Strength - Garment - Blade Build: Fire - Lightning Lvl: 34 Guild: BlackHand Compliments to banzaimonkey
i'm not trying to jump in your ass, i'm just putting things in perspective. when the poll was first put up, cold was winning by a LOT. and that was before all this anti-cold stuff came out. now, cold is STILL winning, just not by as much.
but seriously, i'm not trying to jump on you, i was just explaining the jump in fire votes the way i saw it.
Happy now? Since every skill is bullshit, don't learn any skills and just shut up already. Everyone's had their points down, and just like the other post, everyone's repeating their own points.
BiggieTymers keeps insisting that fire is the best, and so do many other people.
Geobot keeps insisting that fire isn't neccasarily the best, and so do many other people.
I'm half into fire and half into cold, and so are some other people. I'm not saying fire is the best, and neither am i saying cold is the best. Given certain conditions, both can have their advantages. and both have their disadvantages. True, cold hits the least, but if you don't have pills, what's the god damn use of using fire? In a pill fight without potions, fire will own. In a pill and potion fight, but a cold versus an unlucky fire without all the frost hour reduce or freeze hour reduce, cold will win. If not, fire may win. Both sides have advantages and disadvantages. People are repeating themselves too much.
Of course, I don't mean don't learn anything, I'm just quite annoyed that everytime I see that there's so many people posting, and then when I read it, it's the same old stuff.
Happy now? Since every skill is bullshit, don't learn any skills and just shut up already. Everyone's had their points down, and just like the other post, everyone's repeating their own points.
BiggieTymers keeps insisting that fire is the best, and so do many other people.
Geobot keeps insisting that fire isn't neccasarily the best, and so do many other people.
I'm half into fire and half into cold, and so are some other people. I'm not saying fire is the best, and neither am i saying cold is the best. Given certain conditions, both can have their advantages. and both have their disadvantages. True, cold hits the least, but if you don't have pills, what's the god damn use of using fire? In a pill fight without potions, fire can own. Both sides have advantages and disadvantages. People are repeating themselves too much.
P.S: Ever heard of the word "REPITITIVE?"
I've got a better word for this, Monotonous. For those of you who have no clue to what that means, go look in a dictionary and never post in this topic again. My last 2 cents.
Characters - Atlas Stats: Pure Strength - Garment - Blade Build: Fire - Lightning Lvl: 34 Guild: BlackHand Compliments to banzaimonkey
strike_freedom wrote:Geobot keeps insisting that fire isn't neccasarily the best, and so do many other people.
ok, seriously, i'm not arguing. pick whichever you want. it matters not in the least to me. some like cold, some like fire, big deal, that's why both are in the game.
i just want to know how I got singled out here. i had only 4 posts in this thread, none of them before page 4. also, 2 of them were about the poll, and not even about builds. ^_^
i write this knowing im a new to sro, so i might be totaly wrong. your welcome to correct me
some time ago i tried to find out what jewels actually do. i was focused on +str jewels and since i had trouble to find some, all my accessoires were many lvls under mine. i took off my jewels and attacked a mob. i noticed a huge increase in the dmg i took. so from there i favor higher lvl jewels, and i see im taking less dmg. so the fact, that Biggie is sacraficing this dmg reduction for lowering ice's effect it prooving to me that ice must be useful.
imbue dmg-wise: since we are talking about str builds imbue wont give you a huge dmg increase. for an int build fire might do a lot more dmg then ice. but for str, they are only giving some dmg. fire still some more, but not very much. (this only goes for imbues. of course there are the +% phy.dmg buffs)
anyhow. i cant take any side here. both have really good agruments
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Hey I didn't single you out Geobot! I said that you said that fire isn't neccasarily the best. That's also what you're saying isn't it? And I also said "and so do many other people"
BiggieTymers wrote:so what ur saying is that ud rather slow the enemy down instead of killing them?
w00t for logic.
ps: i u guys for trying to argue with the facts.
Sorry for bumping this topic again, but id like to know...
Ok this is for knowledge purposes only, not flaming... At my current moment im a int bow / Ice.... my plan for the future was to go both Ice and Fire... everyone compares imbues but cmon people, go a lil farther.... use an instant frostbite .... kite around and use a fire nuke... please tell me if im messing something up because im only level 20 so id like to change before its too late
BiggieTymers wrote:so what ur saying is that ud rather slow the enemy down instead of killing them?
w00t for logic.
ps: i u guys for trying to argue with the facts.
Sorry for bumping this topic again, but id like to know...
Ok this is for knowledge purposes only, not flaming... At my current moment im a int bow / Ice.... my plan for the future was to go both Ice and Fire... everyone compares imbues but cmon people, go a lil farther.... use an instant frostbite .... kite around and use a fire nuke... please tell me if im messing something up because im only level 20 so id like to change before its too late
i would actaully get lightning just cuz you're an INT char and light has all the magic buffs
As I understand from Taiwanese high lvl player, if you have the following things. You won't get freeze easily.
1) Duel 15% freeze reduce time rings, necklace, earing.
2) Phoenix shield skill - maxed all the books
Don't forget those accessory too , it is very helpful
If I choose to be STR focused, do I understand it well, that I max my weapon masteries and besides I use some forces to ... buff me (cold - armor, fire - resistance, light - speed/dodge ) ... and to imbue my weapon (make it elemental to deal more dmg and bring some status effect ...)?
... in other words, STR char does not use Forces to kill. ?
And other q.: each skill/mastery has 9 levels to be maxed? And I shold have max 300 masteries? What does the count of masteries include? Say I have 50th level in cold, there I have 5 skills at level 9 , so I used 95 of total 300 masteries?
yea, most STR users will be using weapon skills instead of force skills for their attack. like you said, the buffs and imbues are good though.
as for the mastery total, it only counts levels in each tree mastery, not each skill. so if you had level 10 levels in each fire, spear, and force, then your total mastery level would be 30. it doesn't matter howmany skills in each tree you have.
i m not here to flame anyone or w/e... i just wanna post my view points...
i have researched considerably... and i view my points as very contributing to this conversation
firstly... i think biggie has a good point... nothing against u but u have to give more evidence to it...
the rest of u going against biggie... ur just as bad at proving ur point
now here comes the explaination
wun u all agree... ice is more a defensive purpose element... look at the skills... it enables tanking... freezing is for defensive purposes too... if u freeze a mob that does alot of damage... u can easily readuce that total damage by half...
to me... ice is a PVE build...
ofcoz ice would be the best without accessories... with or without pheonix shield... but lets calculate WITH accessories...
i have both fire and ice masteries at lvl 33 (sp farming and lets calculate from there...
i m not sure which comes first... the pheonix shield or the reduce so we'll do both calculations... effect cold = 86...
4 jewelry... each 10 cold reduce... (dun complain that u can't find coz i even found some in jangan)
if u say u can't find u r just making an invalid excuse...
so 40% off 86... thats about 51... fire shield does 41 reduce... thats 10...
10 effect... how long is that? 1 sec =.='
imaging having 13% rings...
against mobs i feel that ice is nice... i hate spamming pots... and getting hit a ton... i just like the feeling that i m safe...
the fact that fire does more... it makes it better in PVP... a burn is a burn... but people tend to view burns very lightly... i've seen afew pvps... that dude doesn't even care about the burns...
i researched on what biggie said about KRSO having no ice...
i checked that too and i saw many videos... sure enough i saw no ice imbue on the monsters at all...
i m not helping anyone or anything.. i m just stating what i found out... thats all
but seriously with those anti ice equips... i dun think u even need pills...
If I get one reply to this post, I sware to god. 
u guys for trying to argue with the facts.
