Blade or Glavie?

[Tasdik]

We all know glavie levels faster, but what I want to know is, which has more pvp potential, and against which builds?

Neither of these builds will be force. I hate force.

Builds will be 110wep/110fire/90light/20ice. Or 90ice/20light. Either way.

[XMoshe]

Neither of these builds will be force. I hate force.

Damn you to hell.

Make a list and I'll be glad to fill it in for ya.

[Tasdik]

Neither of these builds will be force. I hate force.

Damn you to hell.

Make a list and I'll be glad to fill it in for ya.

<3

List of what?

*will be back to reply after jew church*

[Boiler]

if you aren't going force might aswell go 110 ice... 20 light is pretty much pointless..

[XMoshe]

We all know glavie levels faster, but what I want to know is, which has more pvp potential, and against which builds?

List of what build vs what build :3

[Twist]

Whats with your Euro Tasdik?Oo

Anyway, bladers are fun, but since you are legit you will probably cap it 2019.And u gonna cap glaiver 2017.Trust me, i tried.

[apan]

I'm afraid Twist's got a point =/

But let's all become realists for a while. In a perfect world without farming you would get to 100 in maybe 1 year? And the another 8-12 months to 110. So that makes 20-24 months for a blader. And I'd say maybe 18 months for a glavie.

(These are just assumtions, I dont have any char above 100 so I dont know, this is what my ears have told me)

[Tasdik]

We all know glavie levels faster, but what I want to know is, which has more pvp potential, and against which builds?

List of what build vs what build :3

Hhhh. Fine. Just for you. =)

Glavie

Spoiler!

Euro

Warrior/cleric -

Warlock/cleric -

Rogue/cleric -

Wizard/cleric -

Bard/cleric -

Warrior/rogue -

Chinese

Pure str bow -

Hybrid str or int bow -

Blader -

Pure int spear -

Pure int s/s -

Hybrid int s/s or spear -

Blader

Spoiler!

Euro

Warrior/cleric -

Warlock/cleric -

Rogue/cleric -

Wizard/cleric -

Bard/cleric -

Warrior/rogue -

Chinese

Pure str bow -

Hybrid str or int bow -

Glavie -

Pure int spear -

Pure int s/s -

Hybrid int s/s or spear -

I may have forgotten something, but whatever.

Are bladers really THAT hard to level? I mean, even if I got him some nice gear/weapons?

[apan]

Well tbh... No.

But they are slower. There are people on my server who play as blader and they lvl almost as fast as any other build. I think that if you would play as much on two chars the blader would be around 20% slower ...imo

[aishsharma]

*will be back to reply after jew church*

Jew church? Just how many types of churches are there?

As for lvling blader question, its not so hard at 0gap but at bigger gap you really start to feel the pain, especially past 50.

[XMoshe]

We all know glavie levels faster, but what I want to know is, which has more pvp potential, and against which builds?

List of what build vs what build :3

Hhhh. Fine. Just for you. =)

Glavie

Spoiler!

Euro

Warrior/cleric - potfight till either warrior crits or glaive gets a stun and a few crits right after

Warlock/cleric - you'll get raped pretty much regardless of the build you have. You got firewall/fan/pills to counter it but small chance if the warlock knows what he's doing.

Rogue/cleric - get lucky he doesn't crit on a kd and you should be able to take him out fairly easy.

Wizard/cleric - fire wall/fan, not that big of a problem I'd say.

Bard/cleric - come on...

Warrior/rogue - never really pvped with one so hard to say but he'll have a hard time without cleric, unless he uses skins ofcourse =p

Chinese

Pure str bow - either one needs a few good crits but equal chance I'd say, hp passive from heuk might give you a good advantage.

Hybrid str or int bow - hybrid str will die easily, hybrid str sucks *flameshield on*. Hybrid int shouldn't be a problem either, you got a shitload of hp, without a bit higher reg hits wont kill ya, they need crits and those are lower on them ;] and they got less hp.

Blader - Potfight to the end

Pure int spear - How much I love my pure int spear I think a glaive will win. The insane amount of hp + fan storm + fire wall + vigors makes it almost impossible for a int spear to take down a glaive's hp.

Pure int s/s - s/s on the other hand does lower dmg but because of the debuffs I think it has a better chance of taking out a glaive. I still think it'll be a close call though.

Hybrid int s/s or spear - hmm...it really depends on the ratio but the increased hp wont keep you alive from the glaive crits and the lower dmg wont really help you killing him faster =p

Blader

Spoiler!

Euro

Warrior/cleric - Two uber tanks, massive potfight, chances for the blader are really low considering his lower than average dmg and no chance to put stats on the warrior. A warrior might kill the blader with a double crit but the increased def might give him a chance to survive so the warrior might need another hit/crit after that.

Warlock/cleric - Compared to the glaive a blader has a better chance against a lock because of the increased def. With pills, fire wall, kd he might be able to take him out with a good placed crit (well more like lucky placed crit).

Rogue/cleric - Because of the increased def a rogue will need more crits on a blader than on a glaive, although IIRC the dmg is already really high. A blader gotta get lucky with a few blocks, then a kd and some crits on the stabs. Again no chance for stats.

Wizard/cleric - Fire wall, shield, pills, kd. This shouldn't be so hard for a blader.

Bard/cleric - Lol

Warrior/rogue - Same as the glaive, I don't know much about them...They need a shitload of vigors to stay alive though but they pack a good punch if they know how to switch (how hard that might be with the shitty servers). You can how ever get stats on this build so it might be easier for a blader to take it down than a glaive.

Chinese

Pure str bow - Never ending potfight

Hybrid str or int bow - Hybrid str lol, hybrd int won't be able to take a blader down too. You can get stats on it but you will probably have to wait till after snow, then kd it and get some nice crits to take it out.

Glavie - Potfight unless you get stats, kd, and 2/3/4 out of 4 stabs crit while he has his glaive out.

Pure int spear - Potfight till snow is out, even though a blader might have a hard time taking out a spear char even without snow. Mostly depends on gear and luck though.

Pure int s/s - Both give stats, both can kd, both got shield. Potfights won't be rare, the blader might have more hp but an int has the phy def buff, snow shield, fire wall (assuming it isn't that gay light/ice *joke relax*) so unless the blader gets a kd right after snow runs out and crits a s/s might even survive the 1min (45 secs really) outside of snow. The other way around, an int s/s will need debuffs and some good hits after that without blocks to take out a blader.

Hybrid int s/s or spear - More hp, less dmg. An even bigger potfight =p

I may have forgotten something, but whatever.

Are bladers really THAT hard to level? I mean, even if I got him some nice gear/weapons?

As you can see alot of stuff will end in potfights, ofcourse this is considering equal gear/weps/acc/skills. When you put in better gear/weps it might be different ofcourse.

Bladers are just slow to lvl, not hard =p You need alot of patience.

*DISCLAIMER: this is ofcourse pretty much all from my own experience, not just my own pvp experience but also what I have seen from other pvps*

[NightSky]

If you have silk and are able to get better gear then go with the blader.

1. the combos just look amazingg!
2. How many bladers are on Azteca? like 1??
3. the feeling of people having an extremely difficult time killing you is awesome

^^Nuff said.

If you do go blader just make sure to farmm all the sp at ongs... so you can just 0 gap

[jbrigjaj]

Hmm guys can u help me out with all these definitions ? Nuker. and Cap what do both of them mean?

[apan]

Nuker = A chinese character who is Full Intelligence (Full Int), and uses magical skills. Has great damage but low HP.

Cap = The current maxiumum lvl of the game, now 110 is cap. Next time it will most likely be lvl 120. They change it after some time and when many people are capped (capped = a person who is the same lvl as the cap)

Hope this helped

[jbrigjaj]

Nuker = A chinese character who is Full Intelligence (Full Int), and uses magical skills. Has great damage but low HP.

Cap = The current maxiumum lvl of the game, now 110 is cap. Next time it will most likely be lvl 120. They change it after some time and when many people are capped (capped = a person who is the same lvl as the cap)

Hope this helped

woah that sounds pretty epic tbh makes the game never ending..

[omier]

Nuker = A chinese character who is Full Intelligence (Full Int), and uses magical skills. Has great damage but low HP.

Cap = The current maxiumum lvl of the game, now 110 is cap. Next time it will most likely be lvl 120. They change it after some time and when many people are capped (capped = a person who is the same lvl as the cap)

Hope this helped

There are Hybrid Int(with some str points) nukers as well.

[jbrigjaj]

what is better tho? I was thinkin of making a spear .. i got some advice to either use fire/ice or light/ice .. he said hes not sure which is better.. and how are the stats distributed as a hybrid? for example.. 1 str every 5 levels.. ? .. Are there any updated Nuking heuskal or whatever its called guide?

[apan]

Well if you're making a nuker with a weapon tree (like bicheon, heuksal or pacheon) you probably would wanna go with Ice/Lightning. Because you get a skill called Snow Shield with Ice. If a person hits 10k on you, the first skill removes 20% dmg from your HP and moves it to your MP. So instead he will do 8k dmg to your HP and 2k on your MP instead.

Now at lvl 80 the skill will remove 50%, and at 100 60%. So it's a lifesaver

And why lightning you may ask, because you get magical atk buffs And moving speed is always nice :]



And when it comes to Hybrids, never had any but they say the best Int Hubrid is 7:1. So that's 7 Int:1 Str. But I've heard 5:1 is also good
But as I said, never had one so you may wanna ask someone else on that one.

But if you wanna keep your MP up while using the Snow Shield skill, you would want to be all Int (pure Int).

And regarding the guides, check this one out for some general info. Don't really know any specific good guide I'm afraid...

Hope it helped, just ask again if something isn't clear

[omier]

1:8 INT hybrid is easier to do cos they add up to 9 which is 3 lvls worth of stat points. So at first lvl u add 3 int, second 3int, third 2 int and 1 str and then repeat. I suggest writing down what u need to add at what lvl.

[apan]

Yeah, I haven't done a hybrid but if i were to make one. I would make a note on your desktop like.

Lvl Stats
1. 3 Int
2. 3 Int
3. 2 Int 1 Str

(If you go for 8:1, but i doubt you'll notice it acctually, go for 7:1 or something like that.)

Just make sure to click right if you go hybrid ^^

[jbrigjaj]

Mines like lvl 25 5:1 hybrid .. 5:1 isnt good :/? Im finding it epic... in pvp i always rec ALL CHN Builds.. then the wiz nukers come it -.- was fighting a lvl 28 one who was literally pimped.. she had an epic som +3 staff.. mines a 4D sos +3 spear.. but the fight was like.. who hits first kills... -.- which i found boring.. Even with snow shield.. snow shield right? she could 1 hit me tho :/

[aishsharma]

idk how ppl manage to keep a track of their stat points over time, i prefer to look over naked balance % values as well as whether my dmg/tanking is what i expected it to be with my current gear. If it falls short i know what to add for the next 5 lvls.

[apan]

Mines like lvl 25 5:1 hybrid .. 5:1 isnt good :/? Im finding it epic... in pvp i always rec ALL CHN Builds.. then the wiz nukers come it -.- was fighting a lvl 28 one who was literally pimped.. she had an epic som +3 staff.. mines a 4D sos +3 spear.. but the fight was like.. who hits first kills... -.- which i found boring.. Even with snow shield.. snow shield right? she could 1 hit me tho :/

Na, it's not bad I think, but then on the other hand I've never played(or against) a hybrid You just keep going with 5:1

And yeah, snow shield