£1500 Budget

[[SD]Master_Wong]

What i7 are you getting?

930 although would love my budget to stretch to the extream edition but that would mean i have to cut back on other things and the 930 is more then enough to support a high end system

[renegadebow]

Id still go with a 555 BE over the I7 930.

Only real negative difference I see is the 555 BE Phenom has 2 MB less of L3 Cache. Everything else is basically the same except the 555 BE has 3.2ghz, which means already a higher OC point to start at then 2.8 ghz.

Oh and price.

[Love]

What i7 are you getting?

930 although would love my budget to stretch to the extream edition but that would mean i have to cut back on other things and the 930 is more then enough to support a high end system

You just forfeited the best build you were going to get here ^^

and that was from me to be clear, I am sure you have a "pretty good idea of what you are doing".

ssd, aftermarket cooler build, go go go.

edit: I kinda like what rene has to say although he says things like "2 MB less of L3 Cache".

[[SD]Master_Wong]

What i7 are you getting?

930 although would love my budget to stretch to the extream edition but that would mean i have to cut back on other things and the 930 is more then enough to support a high end system

You just forfeited the best build you were going to get here ^^

and that was from me ftr.

eh? how so

£762.77 for the 980x extreme or £211.42 for the 930.

if i could afford to spend half my buget on it i would but for now i can consider it an upgrade later.

[renegadebow]

@Love

What dont you like me stating the differences between the CPU's?

Is there something wrong with that?

[Love]

eh? how so

£762.77 for the 980x extreme or £211.42 for the 930.

if i could afford to spend half my buget on it i would but for now i can consider it an upgrade later.

This will be my build post.

CPU: i5 750

You are just spending money without analyzing performance long story short and I don't think that is the best way to do things therefore I won't support you ( can easily say you are too caught up and are basically buying names ).

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=i5+750+review

If you took a second to do that you would see that the performance an i7 930 brings against an i5 750 is non existing and doesn't justify the 50% higher price tag.

Is like you aren't even trying, don't really blame you or anything but presenting to you a build with value and performance in mind is sorta wasting my time as you appear to be interested in buying the biggest and flashiest name that you already know or that is made known to you by other people who know as much as "some1 who shouldn't be saying anything".

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@Love

What dont you like me stating the differences between the CPU's?

Is there something wrong with that?

My problem with what you said is that you listed a technical number and that in mind eyes couldn't be more irrelevant/pointless when it comes to analyzing the power/value, what matters to me is real world performance. In all fairness cache can sometimes be used to tell certain CPUs aside ( specially true with older CPUs ) but telling some1 to purchase x because it has 50 more cache just doesnt follow solid logic as CPUs with lower specs outperform "better on paper" ones all the time, in other words focus on performance and if you wish then on value.

[kontroversy]

I have build about 4 i7 based rigs now (all 1366). I also got the PLEASURE of building an 1156 rig recently for a buddy on a budget. We went with an i3 (dual core), clocked that baby to 4ghz with literally no effort on a hyper212+. 5850, 4GB DDR3. The rig screams when gaming, no hitches at all. And if he ever feels the need, he can always quickly drop a quad in there.

Now...if you need 8 threads...and triple channel...

...but gaming...no need.

And 980x...really? LOL

[[SD]Master_Wong]

now let me break it down for you socket will limit upgrades as that its pretty much the best processor you will ever get on that socket while the i7 range may stil get extented.

i wish it was that simple and hey im not saying you are wrong its a very good processor but im after a computer i can not only use for all the most demanding games and 3d moddeling (hobby) but also can upgrade later the 1156 socket wont go much futher the 1366 will.

also no hyperthreading and that is nice to have present.

tbh im thinking hard and there are no big reasons why i shouldnt get the i5 but the smaller reasons do sway and for £70 i dont mind paying for them little reasons its not exactly going to break my budget and the little differences make a big overall difference in a high end rig when your paying for small improvements. i am aware of the cost of the small improvements but i would just upgrade this rig if i wanted budget

[kontroversy]

The higher end quads on 1156 have HT also, just as the 920/930.

If you are rendering, I can see the need for high bandwidth memory and as many threads possible.

[Love]

now let me break it down for you socket will limit upgrades as that its pretty much the best processor you will ever get on that socket while the i7 range may stil get extented.

i wish it was that simple and hey im not saying you are wrong its a very good processor but im after a computer i can not only use for all the most demanding games and 3d moddeling (hobby) but also can upgrade later the 1156 socket wont go much futher the 1366 will.

also no hyperthreading and that is nice to have present.

tbh im thinking hard and there are no big reasons why i shouldnt get the i5 but the smaller reasons do sway and for £70 i dont mind paying for them little reasons its not exactly going to break my budget and the little differences make a big overall difference in a high end rig when your paying for small improvements. i am aware of the cost of the small improvements but i would just upgrade this rig if i wanted budget

I would like to know what upgrades you are talking about and 1366 mobos cost more so it isnt a 70 euro difference.

edit: Have yet to meet a person who needs hyperthreading.

[dom]

my sig

[renegadebow]

@Love

Thanks for proving my point. People will say that I7 or I5 has more cache, blah-blah-blah.

When it comes down to performance, the 555 BE can out perform or be the same as i3's i5's and i7's

[Rawr~]

For your budget i7 is perfect, I chose the i5 quad over the AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE for the fact being that I bought the i5 for the same price as the 965 and the performance trumped it.
AMD 965 has a clocking of 3.4GHz which is about equal to Intel's 2.8GHz.(give or take some
A 955 unlocked would have slightly less performance than the 965 as well.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/phe ... 389-2.html
As you can see here the i7 920 @ 2.66 GHz outperforms the AMD 965 @3.8GHz
Now OC the i7 920 to 3.8 and you have total domination.

[renegadebow]

Ror, im getting it in 2 weeks.

Have you tried OC'ing the 555 BE yourself?
Its incredibly easy from what I've seen from a friends build.

The 2 processors are neck and neck.

Also, for the price of a 555 BE, its a much greater deal, even if theres oh so little differences.

[kontroversy]

A simple and rather quick google will show anyone the superior architecture of the intel chips. I dont even have faith in bulldozer with sandybridge coming. AMD has its market, and intel has theirs. Unless AMD gets a ginormous bankroll they will never catch up again.

Some people just can not move on and think AMD is the same as they were in the 939 days.

Look at the thubans, AMD is doing with 6 cores what intel is doing with 4.

/back on topic

[Rawr~]

Thank you Kon, people are just looking at the core clock of AMD processors and assuming that just because the clocking is higher than an Intel that the AMD processor is faster, that's false.

The i5 stock is on par/faster than AMD's 6 core.
Led alone the i7 920 outperforms the 965 BE quad @2.66 Vs. 3.8GHz, nuff said.

BTW Intel CPUs are just as easy and easier in many cases to OC than AMD's, I've OC'd both brands and the i5 is a piece of cake to tweak.

[Deadsolid]

@Deadsolid

I wouldn't say so though. AMD processors are cheaper, and can give you better performance.

At a power user, they are completely neck and neck.

At entry level or consumer level, AMD has the win.

Not hardly. Hyper threading.
i7 > Opteron any day.

[[SD]Master_Wong]

now let me break it down for you socket will limit upgrades as that its pretty much the best processor you will ever get on that socket while the i7 range may stil get extented.

i wish it was that simple and hey im not saying you are wrong its a very good processor but im after a computer i can not only use for all the most demanding games and 3d moddeling (hobby) but also can upgrade later the 1156 socket wont go much futher the 1366 will.

also no hyperthreading and that is nice to have present.

tbh im thinking hard and there are no big reasons why i shouldnt get the i5 but the smaller reasons do sway and for £70 i dont mind paying for them little reasons its not exactly going to break my budget and the little differences make a big overall difference in a high end rig when your paying for small improvements. i am aware of the cost of the small improvements but i would just upgrade this rig if i wanted budget

I would like to know what upgrades you are talking about and 1366 mobos cost more so it isnt a 70 euro difference.

edit: Have yet to meet a person who needs hyperthreading.

well il be paying a heft price on the mobo either way il need or rather want 2x 16 lane pci-e slots with a couple 8 lanes for other no gfx stuff not to mention good for oc'ing

so just look at the chip not the mobo. upgrades i mean are things like the 980x when the price comes down in 6months or so to a more reasonable range.

the i7 is the market leading chip for a reason so stop with this the i5 is the same or the black editions are better. be are good yes and if your on a budget will do a good job but if you want to push and sqeeze every little out your syetem then you really should just get the best you can afford.

as i said which supprisingly was ignored you are paying for the small differences but in a performance system many small changes make a big overall difference.

[MrJoey]

my sig

Can't believe no one responded to this, but lololololololetc....

[renegadebow]

Umm no. Im just saying for most users, the 555 BE is a better choice than the i7.

Also, im pretty sure the 6200 guy trolled us

And I'm pretty sure I know more about computers than you so kkthxbye!

[Azilius]

@Love

Thanks for proving my point. People will say that I7 or I5 has more cache, blah-blah-blah.

When it comes down to performance, the 555 BE can out perform or be the same as i3's i5's and i7's

lllllllllllllllllllol

[[SD]Master_Wong]

Umm no. Im just saying for most users, the 555 BE is a better choice than the i7.

Also, im pretty sure the 6200 guy trolled us

And I'm pretty sure I know more about computers than you so kkthxbye!

look there is a reason why the 555be isnt the market leading chip as i said yes its a good chip but no its not the best, your only looking at the clock speed which dont make as much difference as you think. so stop saying for most users or it can keep up or beat i7's for most users something on the intel i*number* core range is better, users on a budget will prefer the 555be or people who just want a quick cheap computer thats going to be easy to upgrade laters as AMD uses its slots for a long time so the AM3 slot will outlast the 1366 slot

[Lempi]

Not sure why you are going with Scan. Last thing I ordered from there was broken on arrival and it took them a month to replace it.

Anyway, I suggest getting an Overclocked bundle from OCuk instead of buying it seperately. You get the CPU, Mobo and RAM, all Overclocked, tested and with a 1 year guarantee.

(Link) This is the i7 930 version which includes 6GB tri-channel RAM

Or if you really want to push the boat out, (Link) this is the 970. Although it's more than half your budget, this is the 6-core version, which is still overkill atm.

Obviously you pay a little extra for the overclocking and testing involved, but they are made to order, have guaranteed stability/compatibility and they have impeccable customer service.

Oh, and @renegadebow; Just shut up. You're embarrassing yourself.

[Amarisa]

Umm no. Im just saying for most users, the 555 BE is a better choice than the i7.

Also, im pretty sure the 6200 guy trolled us

And I'm pretty sure I know more about computers than you so kkthxbye!

the 555 BE is a dual core >.> there is no way in hell it can hold up vs a i5/i7

honestly intel>amd in performance BUT amd>intel in price

[[SD]Master_Wong]

Not sure why you are going with Scan. Last thing I ordered from there was broken on arrival and it took them a month to replace it.

Anyway, I suggest getting an Overclocked bundle from OCuk instead of buying it seperately. You get the CPU, Mobo and RAM, all Overclocked, tested and with a 1 year guarantee.

(Link) This is the i7 930 version which includes 6GB tri-channel RAM

Or if you really want to push the boat out, (Link) this is the 970. Although it's more than half your budget, this is the 6-core version, which is still overkill atm.

Obviously you pay a little extra for the overclocking and testing involved, but they are made to order, have guaranteed stability/compatibility and they have impeccable customer service.

Oh, and @renegadebow; Just shut up. You're embarrassing yourself.

good prices, free delivery and iv had really good experiance from their customer service when iv had problems fixxed and replaced within 2weeks counting delivery time tbh dont get much better.

i do use oc uk for some things the 970 is tempting but overkill as i said earlier il consider the 980 onwards upgrades later.

5970 is where id like to go if i have to be honest but these little details il work out stil doing research and theory builds.
also with the 1x5970 i can buy another to cross fire and double my system essentially (dont work like that in practice though) with 2x5870 i would have to fork out on a tri 16lane mobo and i dont know many of them that get good reviews

lastly back to oc uk i dont want a pre-overclocked chip thats something i want to do always wanted to do it but never had the right chip got a 9750 phenom atm which you cant oc much at all

[renegadebow]

Trolled.

Yeah I7's are pretty good. I likeem alot, just hate teh price.

[[SD]Master_Wong]

this is what iv come up with. you may notice the 240 that i think should be enough to run physx in high end games, silly some may say but if im forking out this much money i want good physics aswell as gfx.

iv got a HAF932 case and there is only stock cooling on that build as im getting a full water cooling loop a couple of months after i get this maybe less

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[Fiction]

Woot Woot! My GeForce 6200 (AGP) comes in tomorrow! Thanks Dom! Going to make this baby fit in my out-of-date PCI-E slot. Kicks dead horse because its fun

[Gaigemasta]

meh forgot a dvd drive - just add 50 to it


idk abt the hd, should be fine

and i think the mobo has 3+ slots for ram, couldnt tell

[Sharp324]

Fun watching rookies play.