John_Doe wrote:I have no proof my brain exists, I've never seen it, yet I still believe I have it. It's no different from believing in anything else, tbh. I've never seen a vulture yet I believe they exist, too. I've never seen a Canadian yet I believe people live over there, too. Sometimes we don't need reasons to believe things, if we start trying to justify everything we will soon find we can't prove anything.
That was the dumbest thing have ever read, Fact is your brain does exist, vultures are real, Canadian do live in Canada, these are fact you cannot deny one way or the other, because of of evidence to back them up. It is not a matter of justification, it is merely wanting to know the facts/truth, and as of right now creationism/thiests have no emirapical/tangible evidence to back up their claim of a invisable man living in the clouds. Have no idea what you wanted to achieve with those 3 example? That people choose to believe they have brains? That they choose to believe Canadians live in Canada, that people choose to believe that vultures are real. Whatever floats your boat. Wether you choose to believe it or not facts are facts and you cannot deny them. 2+2 will always = 4.
The point of my entire analogy was to purposefully allude to something which we take as common place knoweldge. Ask most people and they will say their brain exists. Ask most people and they will say that both vultures and Canadians exist. But how many of them people actually
know that they exist? Sure, texts books will tell me they are real and all of the scientific studies, much like EvGa stated, "prove" that they exist. But how do I know of their validity? How do I, as a simple human being,
know that I have a brain? Should I simply take someone elses word for it? Most people do, right? Most common day people have no proof of their brain except for the simple idea of "well, someone else told me I had one, so I must". If you asked me to prove I have one, I couldn't without splitting my skull open. Do you see where I am alluding to?
The whole idea I'm trying to make with these
obviously stupid anaoligies (because both of you seemed to miss the pint I was trying to convey and took my literally) is that the premise of belief that we develop, be it "evolutionism" (I didn't even know that was a word) and some sort of spiritual belief, is based solely around the ideas that others tell us. Science claims that a lot of theories are valid, but how do I actually know they are? Without actually reviewing the study and making observations myself upon the theory subjects, I have no real proof that it is valid. For all I know it could be a very exhilarated plot to trick me into believing something. Or maybe, it is real. But unless I see mars for myself, how do I as an individual know that mars is real?
The same applies to religion. People believe in the idea of a lord without any proof. They have stories and teachings that talk of his existence, but when did we ever have proof that a particular lord exist? Simple fact is, we don't. Maybe a lord does exist, maybe it's just a scam. Without proof, I simply don't know. I can only make my judgements upon the ideas in which people present to me, much like science.
Do you see where I'm headed with this? I have no way to know that evolution exists, nor do I have any way to know that a particular lord exists. The fact is, most people simply don't have proof that these things exist. But in this world, who has time to prove that every little thing that we haven't witness yet exists? Who has time to visit Canada to see if Canadian exists? Who has time to go to Africa to see if Rhinos are actually real? No one does. So taking someone elses word, in most cases, is good enough. As long as other people deemed it to be correct, for what reasons we will never know, than it's acceptable for us to believe it.
No one can prove a god exists, nor do most people who think evolution has happened actually have proof themselves. But the point is, it doesn't matter. Because if it did matter, and if people were required to prove a lord exists to verify it's existence, than I will start making you prove to me that Canadians exist. And until you do, I think they too are just a lie for the weak minded
tl;dr The basis of real world proof varies greatly between different objects, be it that of a faith, that of my brain or the theory of evolution. Most of us will never see proof for most scientific theories, yet believe them blindly anyway. And if this is the case, what justifiable reason do you have to doubt the existence of anything else?
I know, I have probably worded myself very poorly here. I know the point I'm trying to make, but I'm not that intelligent and I'm not good with words. If you think what I'm typing makes no sense, than please refrain from pointing it out. I already know it may not make sense, I'm just hoping you catch the general idea of what I'm trying to convey.
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