Why do STR Hybrids suck!?

[SidiousX]

I wanna make a new char, hybrid 2 str and 1 int... now i posted this for the skills and they say: Dont go STR Hybrid, they suck in the game...

Why do they then? (Im making one with Bicheon with Lightling, yes u can say that sucks too but i take it:))

[Tatianasaphira]

They don't, they just don't know how to build one properly. I'm almost 45, and I don't have a problem leveling. With my equips I have a 89% str balance and 63% int balance. I have 4200 hp and 3400 sp, which is great. And no, I haven't added int since lvl 30, and again, I have been fine with that much int, as I use a lot of skills, which I mentioned in one of the other threads. Mostly likely I won't have to either

I hope this helps answer your questions, and feel free to ask me again.

[SidiousX]

So untill lvl 30 u did 2 str and 1 int and from then on just 3 str each time?

[ZeroPheer]

str hybrids dont suck.. my guild mate is str hybrid and he owns..you just need to make it right.

you wanna keep inbetween 83-88 % physical balence when naked.
you still get the same basic skills as a blader normally does..
But IMO i would use glaive cause of the dmg difference..a blader already does weak dmg .. theres no point in making it even lower.Thats just IMO

but if you wanan make a blader then go ahead. dont let anyone tell you differently. PLAY the game how you wanna play it .. not the way other ppl do

[Tatianasaphira]

So untill lvl 30 u did 2 str and 1 int and from then on just 3 str each time?

Actually I dumped 3 int from lvl 20-30. Then for the last 14 lvls did str. By doing that, I got all the int I needed till 70, plus I still have all the skills, I need. I know I use way more then I should, but I like them all. I tried for a while to remove the cold tree, but have added parts of it back, at least cold 24. Lightning/Force are 38, Fire, I think is 34, Sword Tree is 42. And yes, I intend to be one of the very few on the server that can not only ress a lvl 80, but to cast a harmony therepy to protect up to there.

From 29-38 I ran a 9 lvl gap and before I hit 39, I was able to get 12k sp, which I brought my sword, lightning and force skills to 38. Most likely will not have to do that again till 55-60. Of course that will be a very long time, as I will be heading back to Ragnarok at 50. Probably won't be back till March or April

but if you wanan make a blader then go ahead. dont let anyone tell you differently. PLAY the game how you wanna play it .. not the way other ppl do

Precisely. Play exactly the way you want, with whatever weapon you want. I like the sword, which is surprising since on Ragnarok I play an archer class. I tried using a bow and found I hated it. I do use a glaive on my second char, and she too is a str hybrid, but incredibly low use of int, and she is amazing as a str hybrid. I have tested a int hybrid, and a pure int and honestly didn't like them. But that was the way I play, and I found I liked sharing my equips with my lower char. Currently she is only 12 lvls behind my highest char and will be using my remaining 5th degree items

[lazybum]

to each individual's preference of building their own unique build

but am also curious to know the dmg dealt out by both a str hybrid and a pure str...same lvl with almost same eq.

[Fly]

rofl

str: alot of damage, alot of hp
str hybrid: less damage, less hp.

rofl

if u go str hybrid, ur one less person ill ever have to compeat with.

[ShizKnight]

rofl

str: alot of damage, alot of hp
str hybrid: less damage, less hp.

rofl

if u go str hybrid, ur one less person ill ever have to compeat with.

Str hybrid=more damage, but not enough to be worth it.

[ElfeR]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYep2n7e020

heres a str hybrid vs pure str (kull)

[Chaud]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYep2n7e020

heres a str hybrid vs pure str (kull)

And kull was using a spear for some reason...

[Fly]

lol. to prove how much str hybrid suck.

i got like 10 int that i should not have, and i regret it.

[Juey]

rofl

str: alot of damage, alot of hp
str hybrid: less damage, less hp.

rofl

if u go str hybrid, ur one less person ill ever have to compeat with.

pls dont post bullshit like this to confuse people. Guys dont listen to this guy, he is just jealous str hybrid is gonna own him so he go around asking everyone to not make one since hes scared he'll get owned.

Even the most simple fact he managed to get wrong: Str hybrid will do MORE dmg than pure str. Shows how much clue he got.

[Juey]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYep2n7e020

heres a str hybrid vs pure str (kull)

dont even know what kind of str hybrid that guy is, and he is using a spear, could had been int hybrid for all i know.

[Tatianasaphira]

Actually I have not really gone against a pure str. Probably because I don't know any.

And Fly, even though I made you that cute banner, I don't think I will ever be going against you any time soon. I play on Oasis, not Xian. Kinda hard to threaten people not on your server.

[Fly]

rofl

str: alot of damage, alot of hp
str hybrid: less damage, less hp.

rofl

if u go str hybrid, ur one less person ill ever have to compeat with.

pls dont post bullshit like this to confuse people. Guys dont listen to this guy, he is just jealous str hybrid is gonna own him so he go around asking everyone to not make one since hes scared he'll get owned.

Even the most simple fact he managed to get wrong: Str hybrid will do MORE dmg than pure str. Shows how much clue he got.

lol. a str nuker is telling me im wrong? wow

hybrids do less damage then a pure.

str: (1(2.50)+1).97 + (1(1.00)+1).35

hybrid: (1(2.50)+1).67+ (1(1.00)+1).67

do the math.

when ur skill gives u 250+% and ur imbue gives u 100%, how do u get more damage by lowering the 250% and raising a lower %?

you make no sence. thats why your a hybris str nuker noob. not only do you suck, but your advice is worthless due to the fact that you suck that bad.

gg.

[Juey]

rofl

str: alot of damage, alot of hp
str hybrid: less damage, less hp.

rofl

if u go str hybrid, ur one less person ill ever have to compeat with.

pls dont post bullshit like this to confuse people. Guys dont listen to this guy, he is just jealous str hybrid is gonna own him so he go around asking everyone to not make one since hes scared he'll get owned.

Even the most simple fact he managed to get wrong: Str hybrid will do MORE dmg than pure str. Shows how much clue he got.

lol. a str nuker is telling me im wrong? wow

hybrids do less damage then a pure.

str: (1(2.50)+1).97 + (1(1.00)+1).35

hybrid: (1(2.50)+1).67+ (1(1.00)+1).67

do the math.

when ur skill gives u 250+% and ur imbue gives u 100%, how do u get more damage by lowering the 250% and raising a lower %?

you make no sence. thats why your a hybris str nuker noob. not only do you suck, but your advice is worthless due to the fact that you suck that bad.

gg.

lol a generic pure str ass is telling me wrong, wow.

I dont do the math, where ever u pull those numbers from. I do the practice in game and observe the numbers, real numbers. And simple fact i do more dmg than any pure str wearing same kind of glaive.

[Chaud]

Potato was almost 1:1, with more in str.
The numbers are accurate. Your doubting him rofl, go check it yourself. You can say anthing you want, the math proves you wrong.

[Kenshin]

this is a dumb discussion....lol

didnt we have str hybrid questions...eh forget this, why am i typing more. everyone knows str hybrid is stupid. cya laters

[thekwong]

um the % next to skills and stuff, arent those "attack speed?" I thought it was discussed here a while back that they arent factored into attack damage? It seems to make sense... seeing as how the skills with a bigger % take a longer time to shoot?

[Chaud]

um the % next to skills and stuff, arent those "attack speed?" I thought it was discussed here a while back that they arent factored into attack damage? It seems to make sense... seeing as how the skills with a bigger % take a longer time to shoot?

They also do more dmg.

[Juey]

Ok u want more proof? I give u 2 more.

1. Go to the Max dmg contest sticky on the general discussion and u will see there me as a hybrid beating the dmg of a full str in the 2x cup, yeah that was a long time ago.

2. This is the most obvious of them all. If the imbue is so "weak" then why doesnt the pure int spear people with SSS or GSM suck? compared their dmg of SSS and GSM compared to pure strengths SSS and GSM and u tell me if its weak. And they have about no str, but lots of int, so according to ur Math (again where ever u got it from...) it should be crappy.

[Chaud]

Ok u want more proof? I give u 2 more.

1. Go to the Max dmg contest sticky on the general discussion and u will see there me as a hybrid beating the dmg of a full str in the 2x cup, yeah that was a long time ago.

2. This is the most obvious of them all. If the imbue is so "weak" then why doesnt the pure int spear people with SSS or GSM suck? compared their dmg of SSS and GSM compared to pure strengths SSS and GSM and u tell me if its weak. And they have about no str, but lots of int, so according to ur Math (again where ever u got it from...) it should be crappy.

ROFL. At low lvls, str hybrid / str pure almost the same, especially at 2x. Besides, you could have just hit high, and him low. And even if there was a tiny bit more dmg, not worth it for the hp / crit loss.

2. Pure ints fall over dead fast unless they have all +5 and nice blues gear. Hybrids sacrafic dmg for hp, which is more than acceptable for ints.

Play your build to 70, doesnt matter to me. I will not let you confuse noobs though.

[nansif2]

rofl

str: alot of damage, alot of hp
str hybrid: less damage, less hp.

rofl

if u go str hybrid, ur one less person ill ever have to compeat with.

.... a good hybrid own a full str.

imbue dmg + phy dmg of a hybrid is better than a full str imbue+phy dmg... so,, you need to read more and create a hybrid to stop being a noob...

[vulperin]

I rather stick to pure. Str hybrid are for people who wants to be different.

[Fly]

rofl

str: alot of damage, alot of hp
str hybrid: less damage, less hp.

rofl

if u go str hybrid, ur one less person ill ever have to compeat with.

.... a good hybrid own a full str.

imbue dmg + phy dmg of a hybrid is better than a full str imbue+phy dmg... so,, you need to read more and create a hybrid to stop being a noob...

physical damage comes from the 280% on a mars. magical damage comes from the 100% on the imbue. your trying to tell me that if you lower the 280% and raise the 100% you can be stronger?

you need to go and retake highschool math.

pure:

str: (1(2.80)+1).95 + (1(1.00)+1).35
int: (1(3.00)+1).95 + (1(1.00)+1).95

hybrid:
(1(2.80)+1).67+ (1(1.00)+1).67


KEY:

.xx = Physical/Magical Ballance
(x.xx) = Skill %
1 = Max Damage
1 = Skill damage
blue = imbue
red = Nuke
green = ghost spear mars

do the math.

on my char is endes up:
pure str 97/35
(329(2.50)+2000).97 + (511(1.00)+1393).35 = 3403

my goal after adding str 5 and int 5 to all my gear:
pure str 112/50
(329(2.50)+2000)1.12 + (511(1.00)+1393).50 = 4112

this was when i was a blader, so the physical strongest blade skill is the 3rd book knockdown and its % is 250.

[Skitsefrenik]

rofl

str: alot of damage, alot of hp
str hybrid: less damage, less hp.

rofl

if u go str hybrid, ur one less person ill ever have to compeat with.

.... a good hybrid own a full str.

imbue dmg + phy dmg of a hybrid is better than a full str imbue+phy dmg... so,, you need to read more and create a hybrid to stop being a noob...

physical damage comes from the 280% on a mars. magical damage comes from the 100% on the imbue. your trying to tell me that if you lower the 280% and raise the 100% you can be stronger?

you need to go and retake highschool math.

pure:

str: (1(2.80)+1).95 + (1(1.00)+1).35
int: (1(3.00)+1).95 + (1(1.00)+1).95

hybrid:
(1(2.80)+1).67+ (1(1.00)+1).67


KEY:

.xx = Physical/Magical Ballance
(x.xx) = Skill %
1 = Max Damage
1 = Skill damage
blue = imbue
red = Nuke
green = ghost spear mars

do the math.

on my char is endes up:
pure str 97/35
(329(2.50)+2000).97 + (511(1.00)+1393).35 = 3403

my goal after adding str 5 and int 5 to all my gear:
pure str 112/50
(329(2.50)+2000)1.12 + (511(1.00)+1393).50 = 4112

this was when i was a blader, so the physical strongest blade skill is the 3rd book knockdown and its % is 250.

your still no phunky

[Fly]

no. my ign is fly

i thought my forum name made that clear

[FK47]

Surely a Str Hybrid in garment would be next to impossible for a nuker to kill?

[Chaud]

Surely a Str Hybrid in garment would be next to impossible for a nuker to kill?

Defintily not. And they will not be able to kill the int with their less damage and less hp.

[BlackShaman]

u mean nuker cant kill a strengh hybrid?? or can, cuz i cant understand him