The Box - Would you push the button?

[0l3n]

I could live with killing a man who has killed someone else without a "just" reason, but nothing less than that.

Ofcourse there are some exceptions to every rule.

[Reise]

Nobody's arguing whether or not pressing the button would be the "right" thing to do.

Some of us are just more realistic than others.

And I realistically could not live a normal life after knowing that I caused someone's death, I"d probably go insane with guilt.

You could have indirectly killed a handful of people already, or in the future.

Dwelling on crap like that is pointless.

[Jstar1]

Guess in Europe it works differently than in the USA where Death Penality should be abolished to even be considered as a modern country. Do you know how many innocents die because of this barbarian use you Americans've got?

You know what? I'm finding hard time writing something that would prove my point, as you and a lot of people 'tlooks, are way too materialistic and selfish (just note out, I ain't religious, so don't bring that thing on), but if your law is something like "eye for an eye", I just simply pity you.

If we could catch bin laden/kim jong il/george bush alive, I would return all the crimes of humanity they have committed back into their face.

How, if I may ask?

I never commented on whether I would press the button or not. My point is that its incredibly naive and stupid to think that people like kim jong-il has good in them. Humanism doesn't work on people like them..it just doesn't no matter how much you humanists hope. If someone is a serial killer or chronic rapist, those people are useless to society, you can't bring them back to the "light side"; their minds are warped. If we are talking about a petty thief or a schoolyard bully, I don't see why humanism couldn't help.

I agree innocent people get killed, but how often do you think people would make that mistake? Its rare..and killing people in the states isn't as easy as you think. It takes an incredible amount of money and time.

And I'm not talking about a random killer/rapist, I'm talking about the most extreme people like bin laden and kim jong il. Those people deserve to burn in hell and don't give me that "eye for an eye" nonsense, if a guy willingly and happily kills 3000 people, I see no problem in blowing their head off.

[MarshMallow]

[Miguez]

Nobody's arguing whether or not pressing the button would be the "right" thing to do.

Some of us are just more realistic than others.

And I realistically could not live a normal life after knowing that I caused someone's death, I"d probably go insane with guilt.

You could have indirectly killed a handful of people already, or in the future.

Dwelling on crap like that is pointless.

+1

[leehyori26]

I would definately not press the button. Just because its someone you dont know doesnt mean they arent a person and the chances that they are gonna be a rapist/killer is as small of a chance as them knowing you. Plus that person could affect way more lives than you could with a charity in a good way or could be a part of your life in the near to distant future

[Doron]

And I realistically could not live a normal life after knowing that I caused someone's death, I"d probably go insane with guilt.

guilt is such a useless thing... you won't know that person..

I've thought about becoming an assassin when I grow up, but then again.. that's hard..

What if it killed SooYoung or Kahi =O?
You seem to like them

I could go without.. Bekah is hotter anyways, and there's 8 more SNSD hotties to choose from, like Yuri..

[Mark.]

Nobody's arguing whether or not pressing the button would be the "right" thing to do.

Some of us are just more realistic than others.

And I realistically could not live a normal life after knowing that I caused someone's death, I"d probably go insane with guilt.

You could have indirectly killed a handful of people already, or in the future.

Dwelling on crap like that is pointless.

That's different. I myself am well aware that while I'm writing this, people are dying. Now tell me it's my fault because I'm wasting time typing this sentences on my PC. Is it?
I guess not. I don't think that you can "indirectly" kill someone. You can accidentally kill someone, but as you say "indirectly" I cannot think that it can be my own fault. People die, let's face it. I ain't totally fine with it ('specially when people die of starvation), but tell me when it actually is my fault.

Just re-reading...

WHy are some of you taking it up the ass???

You Don't know who you are killing.
You WILL NEVER KNOW who you killed.
NO REMORSE.
Why the hell would you care anyways???!! You didn't even know who they were what they did....

As it was said before spam.
@Hesphoros, agreed

This gots to be the most dumbest reply in the whole thread.
Go kill someone, if you're ever able to, and tell me if you won't feel remorse. I've never done it, but I'm pretty sure every human being that can be called this way would feel like that.

Whilst this

1 million dollars can not replace someone's life.

is the most beautiful line of this day.

@Jstar last reply:
I do get your point. It's important to differentiate petty crimes and abnormal cruelties as the second ones may deserve such treatments, but my mind just can't conceive myself hurting someone else. Nor can it think of anyone being human waste. That's it. They follow their ideals, for how insane they can be. But their minds, as you said, are warped. And that's it.
If you want to blow their head off for the "greater good", just do it. Guess it won't change. You shall, though.
Yep, I think I should start to be more realistic as there are too many a thing in this world that cannot be destroyed to create my world of utopia. However I guess I can't. I'll just keep on livin' feeling happy or miserable.
On a side note, I guess you're right as I do not know much of the Death Penality. I just read a journal article where it is said that quite more mistakes than you think are committed. Luckily, some innocent people do avoid death.

[Doron]

Just re-reading...

WHy are some of you taking it up the ass???

You Don't know who you are killing.
You WILL NEVER KNOW who you killed.
NO REMORSE.
Why the hell would you care anyways???!! You didn't even know who they were what they did....

As it was said before spam.
@Hesphoros, agreed

This gots to be the most dumbest reply in the whole thread.
Go kill someone, if you're ever able to, and tell me if you won't feel remorse. [size=10]I've never done it, but I'm pretty sure every human being that can be called this way would feel like that.[/siz]

disagree.
Hundreds of people are dropping dead (or waking up dead) right.. now. and now. and now. and now. etc, etc...

You won't even notice it! every life on this earth that passes away is being replaced by two more.

Just take the money. and if Magically one of the people you know passes away, then yes, it could have been you. But it could also be their time to go.

Only a few people control when they die, how they die and where they die. And those are dem' suicidals.

[Squirt]

Just re-reading...

WHy are some of you taking it up the ass???

You Don't know who you are killing.
You WILL NEVER KNOW who you killed.
NO REMORSE.
Why the hell would you care anyways???!! You didn't even know who they were what they did....

As it was said before spam.
@Hesphoros, agreed

This gots to be the most dumbest reply in the whole thread.
Go kill someone, if you're ever able to, and tell me if you won't feel remorse. [size=10]I've never done it, but I'm pretty sure every human being that can be called this way would feel like that.[/siz]

disagree.
Hundreds of people are dropping dead (or waking up dead) right.. now. and now. and now. and now. etc, etc...

You won't even notice it! every life on this earth that passes away is being replaced by two more.

Just take the money. and if Magically one of the people you know passes away, then yes, it could have been you. But it could also be their time to go.

Only a few people control when they die, how they die and where they die. And those are dem' suicidals.

[Phaedra]

No, no way.

[Azilius]

1 million dollars can not replace someone's life.

QFT

It's not about replacing their life....
it's about spending the 1,000,000 to save >1 other lives.
Therefore we must ask, which life is more important. That question is hard to answer since the death is 'random' but the odds are pretty damn good.

[Love]

I would ask to see my victim and sleep like a baby afterward, silly kidos.

[Ashikiheyun]

I would ask to see my victim and sleep like a baby afterward, silly kidos.

So does the "Love" in your name only apply to yourself? Or are you one of those internet tough guys?

[TheDrop]

this reminds me of that bomb scene in dark knight luls

money changes people, you guys think you'd give to charity and be nice with your money? Horseshit, money makes you arrogant and greedy if you didn't earn it. Hand a man a billion dollars and he'll be buying a mansion and a yacht. Next thing you know hes broke.

its 1million dollars lol. you can't buy a mansion w/ 1m lol, unless you live in kansas lol. w/ that the best you can buy is a single house 'round here...

millions of people die every day...don't know why yall get so crazy about an extra someone dying. indirectly, you could be responsible for hundreds of deaths thats happening right now...

[Love]

I would ask to see my victim and sleep like a baby afterward, silly kidos.

So does the "Love" in your name only apply to yourself? Or are you one of those internet tough guys?

Don't be so quick to assert the meaning a word holds and with some modesty in mind I would say I am a pretty outstanding being as far as actually nice persons go ( I can see how a different story is likely to be perceived ).

[Miguez]

I would ask to see my victim and sleep like a baby afterward, silly kidos.

So does the "Love" in your name only apply to yourself? Or are you one of those internet tough guys?

I think he was:

a. Trolling
b. Being Sarcastic
c. Just messing lol

[NuclearSilo]

off topic-

In all honesty, If I was to rule the world I would:
- Kill people with Low I.Q.
- Kill Non-contributing/lazy/idiotic/waste of life 'retards/people'.
- Kill low athletic people.
- Religion.

Basically, it's taking only the cream of the crop, the best of the best, to cherry pick people. It would be an idealistic world filled with only elites, a world rid of idiots.

Then don't be surprised when robots replace humans, dude.
Things in the nature are there to balance out. Low IQ and high IQ are for scale. If high IQ human live among a high IQ society where the old low IQ human no longer exist, then the lowest IQ (which is already a high IQ one) in that society is considered "low IQ", relatively talk.


If magic exists, so does God. Deal with the consequence

[XemnasXD]

i'd push it...things die so other things can live. I'd be sure not to waste the money on dumb shit though. Hell i might even be able to save or change more lives with that money down the line...

[.curve]

If magic exists, so does God. Deal with the consequence

Wat?

[TheDrop]

If magic exists, so does God. Deal with the consequence

Wat?

exactly what i was thinking lol. What does that have anything to do w/ this topic?

[Love]

If magic exists, so does God. Deal with the consequence

Wat?

exactly what i was thinking lol. What does that have anything to do w/ this topic?

if you push the button = you go to hell, very much relevant for what it is.

[.curve]

if you push the button = you go to hell, very much relevant for what it is.

Wat? That's not the topic. You press the button you get $1,000,000. Where does hell come into this?

[Mirosuke]

It's not about replacing their life....
it's about spending the 1,000,000 to save >1 other lives.
Therefore we must ask, which life is more important. That question is hard to answer since the death is 'random' but the odds are pretty damn good.

I think there's difference between people dying from bad intentional persons and killing someone for money, even it is random. You can always help people, not only in a financial way, there are so many ways.

As someone stated, pretty sure money changes people mind. You can say that by now, but once you have the money on your pockets, there's a small chance that you will contribute with them, and if you ever do it, you won't spend it all... not even half, and the rest it's for you. So, where's the helping the others, which is not enough, meanwhile one random life was taken?

WHy are some of you taking it up the ass???

You Don't know who you are killing.
You WILL NEVER KNOW who you killed.
NO REMORSE.
Why the hell would you care anyways???!! You didn't even know who they were what they did....

As it was said before spam.
@Hesphoros, agreed

disagree.
Hundreds of people are dropping dead (or waking up dead) right.. now. and now. and now. and now. etc, etc...

You won't even notice it! every life on this earth that passes away is being replaced by two more.

Just take the money. and if Magically one of the people you know passes away, then yes, it could have been you. But it could also be their time to go.

Only a few people control when they die, how they die and where they die. And those are dem' suicidals.

Lol sup Ice! Anyways...
I don't agree here
You said people are dropping dead. Well, its because there's a reasons behind it. No one wants to die at their will. (Depends, maybe)
And you want to kill someone just for money, money for you? No? then money to help others?
So what you said had no sense at all. If people are dying because of something, which is so bad, you want to take someone life when this life is so healthy and it might help others? Again, this is 1 in a billions of chances. Anyone life can be taken, so i have nothing really to argue here. But i want to clarify that the people dropping dead are going to die because of their past (whatever happened to them), and the life you are going to take for the money is at your will.
And it's not about going to hell or heaven.

@Squirt Might be true, the person you are going to kill you probably never going to know but some people just don't think as that. It's doesn't mean about knowing the people you kill, it's about yourself. 1 dead probably won't affect the world but, imo it does affect to me.

Pretty sure while i am writing this post and you reading it, a lot of people are dying. And i feel bad for them. And how we can help? push the button, kill another, get 1 million? Nah. I prefer do it on my way.

If you don't care, i care.

[Azilius]

It's not about replacing their life....
it's about spending the 1,000,000 to save >1 other lives.
Therefore we must ask, which life is more important. That question is hard to answer since the death is 'random' but the odds are pretty damn good.

I think there's difference between people dying from bad intentional persons and killing someone for money, even it is random. You can always help people, not only in a financial way, there are so many ways.

As someone stated, pretty sure money changes people mind. You can say that by now, but once you have the money on your pockets, there's a small chance that you will contribute with them, and if you ever do it, you won't spend it all... not even half, and the rest it's for you. So, where's the helping the others, which is not enough, meanwhile one random life was taken?

You're avoiding the question in truth completely and resorting to silly logic.

Person A needs 1,000,000 to save 1000 lives.
Person B will die if Person A takes the 1,000,000
Person A does not know who Person B is, Person B is *random*

If Person A does not take the 1,000,000 then 1000 people die.

What do you do if you are Person A?

[NuclearSilo]

if you push the button = you go to hell, very much relevant for what it is.

Wat? That's not the topic. You press the button you get $1,000,000. Where does hell come into this?

Because someone magically dies for no reason when you push the button.

[Nick Invaders]

If my life depended on it. Yes.
Otherwise, mo.

[Mirosuke]

You're avoiding the question in truth completely and resorting to silly logic.

Person A needs 1,000,000 to save 1000 lives.
Person B will die if Person A takes the 1,000,000
Person A does not know who Person B is, Person B is *random*

If Person A does not take the 1,000,000 then 1000 people die.

What do you do if you are Person A?

Ok, let see.
If i were the Person A, since i believe in the human rights, no doubt i would press it.
Random person killed. 1000 lives are saved.
Now, since you put it on that way, what if that random people includes you or someone really close to you? (Changing the rules, since OP didn't stated where the 1 million were going to).

I am not against you, in fact i support that theory in some way (except for that random person dies, but it's about equivalence) i am against for those who want to kill someone for their own good, even that person is random!

I refuse to kill someone to get money. But as you said, if it's for helping others... common sense.
But really feeling bad for that person who died. Cause it's different, people die right now, may be true may be not, but once you press the button, it does really killed someone.

[Squirt]

What if everytime you clicked the button a microbe or a chicken would die. They are living creatures. What's the diffrence?
Sony one with your bullshit " humans can lise logic and reason"
According to what some of you are saying none of us have yhe right to control other lives, but we kill and eat other LIVING animals everyday

[evilpeta]

some of you guys see life as something expendable, that's why the world is so fcked up today.
thing is, it doesn't matter who will die if you press the button, it's still a life, a human being. if he/she deserved it or not is out of the question.
that carefree attitude towards life is disgusting.