Choosing GPU

[PettZon]

Im not going to argue with any of you. My suggestion was based on the origial post and his budget. Not by any other "suggestions". If you think a "previous gen" card will be sold for a lot longer, then thats up to you. Its already gone from the stores i buy from(europe). Have a nice day

stores perhaps won't have last gen but online always will. why should a store carry 10 types of the same thing when they can force the new onto people and carry more of one thing? the point we are trying to make is (at least i am) is why should someone should spend more money on something that is not really worth it at this point of time and could easily be replaced by something better in the future?

When i mean stores i mean the online one's of course. Buying from a local store is more or less a robbery. The pro's from the 5770 surpass the 4870/4890.

+DirectX 11
+lower wattage
+runs cooler
+openGL 4.0 support
+DC5.0
+Eyefinity

-Just a little less fps (doubtful with the latest driver optimizations)

And they go for around 130-140 euro. Put 2 of them in crossfire and they are around or even better than a 5870 in performance. A 5770 is a lot more futureproof than the 4xxx series by now. Dont you think amd(ati) does everything to improve the 5xxx series performance ? in the five latest releases (drivers) i found almost no improvements for the 4xxx serie.

And as we all know everything will get replaced sooner or later. Nvidia already released thier fermi at such prices that Ati didnt even have to lower thier prices a little. So it will take a while before they drop the 5xxx in price.

[Mark.]

stores perhaps won't have last gen but online always will. why should a store carry 10 types of the same thing when they can force the new onto people and carry more of one thing? the point we are trying to make is (at least i am) is why should someone should spend more money on something that is not really worth it at this point of time and could easily be replaced by something better in the future?

I'm not going to a store. I'm going (this very afternoon) to a guy who fixes/builds PCs. I just tell him the pieces I wanna buy and he'll build them up. He gets the store price (no additional price for building), installs Win7 Ultimate (prolly cracked, though >_>), installs MS Office and if I'm lucky, he'll make me pay less than it should be, since I've known him for some years already.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146060

That's a cool case! Gonna add it to the list and hope he can find it.

plz I don't want to read the same marketing points I've read in review sites, fact is d11 means crap and the 4870 is cheaper and performs better, that's gg right there. Also what do you care if a card runs hot or not, noise levels is the one thing that could matter and with a proper cooler you won't have to worry about it.

so yeah dude leave it to the pros.

edit: actual reason why the 4870 gets the recommendation is bang for bucks.

Just couple things.
First: I'm not gonna overclock/crossfire anything, unless it's really needed.
Secondly: noise is not a problem, really. I use this as headset (yep, my hearing tools ) and it's totally noisefree.

[Mark.]

Double post.

I went to this guy earlier. We had to do some changes since he was out of stock of some things.

This is what we got:
Case & PSU
Middletower Cooler Master with 600W PSU. 125€
Mainboard
There was no Gigabyte, so he proposed for a MSI p55, which -he told me- works better for intel. 120€
CPU
Still an i5 750. Even a 661 costed more than that. 215€
RAM
4Gb DDR3 1333Mhz. 130€
HD
640Gb was overpriced and un-needed, so I went for a 500Gb one. 75€
GPU
Still my biggest doubt. An ATI 5850 was for 290€; there was no 4870, so I chose a 5770, for 180€
I guess 2x4770 cost more.

All of that was 877€ without taxes. Anyway he's making me pay 860€, definitely more than my budget. My dad is willing to give me those 110€ I'm missing, but I don't know if I should take this.

What could I change making it cheaper without losing more than this little of performance?

[Love]

if those are actually the cheapest prices around I don't see why not as build wise is as good as it gets for the time being.

[Mark.]

But when you wrote 4770, you meant two of them crossfired, didn't you?

Anyway, you're right. I can't seem to find anything better that costs as much as this or a lot cheaper and slightly less performing.

I thought about gettin' the same PC as my bro just changing GPU but then I thought "Hell no, I don't want it to be as good as my bro's. Must be better! "

[Amarisa]

But when you wrote 4770, you meant two of them crossfired, didn't you?

Anyway, you're right. I can't seem to find anything better that costs as much as this or a lot cheaper and slightly less performing.

I thought about gettin' the same PC as my bro just changing GPU but then I thought "Hell no, I don't want it to be as good as my bro's. Must be better! "

you could get the same stuff and switch the cpu and gpu. because the cpu your bro has i believe is the dual core with hyperthreading version. the 750 is 4 cores so a lot better.

[Mark.]

But when you wrote 4770, you meant two of them crossfired, didn't you?

Anyway, you're right. I can't seem to find anything better that costs as much as this or a lot cheaper and slightly less performing.

I thought about gettin' the same PC as my bro just changing GPU but then I thought "Hell no, I don't want it to be as good as my bro's. Must be better! "

you could get the same stuff and switch the cpu and gpu. because the cpu your bro has i believe is the dual core with hyperthreading version. the 750 is 4 cores so a lot better.

I actually don't get your point. What are you trying to say?
I've pratically bought the same stuff (same Mobo, same RAM, same HD, maybe even same PSU). Only things that I've changed are CPU and GPU indeed.
Spending 140€ more.

[Amarisa]

you could get the same stuff and switch the cpu and gpu. because the cpu your bro has i believe is the dual core with hyperthreading version. the 750 is 4 cores so a lot better.

I actually don't get your point. What are you trying to say?
I've pratically bought the same stuff (same Mobo, same RAM, same HD, maybe even same PSU). Only things that I've changed are CPU and GPU indeed.
Spending 140€ more.

was talking about your bro's pc