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http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/science/04 ... usion.nif/

I seen this on Philip Defrancos' new Show and googled it. Basically, they are taking a Gigantic laser the size of 3 football and firing a bunch into the same point to create a star...
If they're successful, the scientists hope to solve the global energy crisis by harnessing the energy generated by the mini-star.

I think it'd be an amazing thing, but is it really worth the risk? What happens when a Star Dies?... Black hole.. Super Nova.. etc
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that would be so fcking awesome.
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Blackdragon6 wrote:http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/science/04/28/laser.fusion.nif/

I seen this on Philip Defrancos' new Show and googled it. Basically, they are taking a Gigantic laser the size of 3 football and firing a bunch into the same point to create a star...
If they're successful, the scientists hope to solve the global energy crisis by harnessing the energy generated by the mini-star.

I think it'd be an amazing thing, but is it really worth the risk? What happens when a Star Dies?... Black hole.. Super Nova.. etc


Do you even know the remotest physics involved with those... or even how they're formed...

I'll give you a hint. Mass. They're creating a star via the fusion of 2 hydrogen isotopes. The mass = ~2 freaking grams.

The min. mass for a supernova, which is much less than that of a black hole, is approx 3.5 times the sun's mass. Shandrasomethinwhatnot limit.

It's been years since i took astronomy or physics, but just thinking back a wee bit i remember something along those lines.

People who freak out over OMG sun on earth/ LHC light speed = black hole OMG DOOMMMMMMMM are always fun to watch since you know they're freaking out so easily becuz they're not informed.
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If they're successful, the scientists hope to solve the global energy crisis by harnessing the energy generated by the mini-star.

but i love fossil fuels :soosad:

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The fear about LHC wasn't black holes as much as it was about a quark swallowing all of existence.

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Goseki wrote:
Blackdragon6 wrote:http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/science/04/28/laser.fusion.nif/

I seen this on Philip Defrancos' new Show and googled it. Basically, they are taking a Gigantic laser the size of 3 football and firing a bunch into the same point to create a star...
If they're successful, the scientists hope to solve the global energy crisis by harnessing the energy generated by the mini-star.

I think it'd be an amazing thing, but is it really worth the risk? What happens when a Star Dies?... Black hole.. Super Nova.. etc


Do you even know the remotest physics involved with those... or even how they're formed...

I'll give you a hint. Mass. They're creating a star via the fusion of 2 hydrogen isotopes. The mass = ~2 freaking grams.

The min. mass for a supernova, which is much less than that of a black hole, is approx 3.5 times the sun's mass. Shandrasomethinwhatnot limit.

It's been years since i took astronomy or physics, but just thinking back a wee bit i remember something along those lines.

People who freak out over OMG sun on earth/ LHC light speed = black hole OMG DOOMMMMMMMM are always fun to watch since you know they're freaking out so easily becuz they're not informed.

Umm.. They have all that info in that Article. Or it might've been another, but yes I have read it. I said it would be amazing, but at the same time they are not 100% sure of it either. They spend Billions of dollars on stuff like this when half the world is starving.

I think they should go along with this, but it seems selfish and as stated in his video, it's going to raise a bunch of conspiracy alarms.
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Blackdragon6 wrote:
Goseki wrote:
Blackdragon6 wrote:I think it'd be an amazing thing, but is it really worth the risk? What happens when a Star Dies?... Black hole.. Super Nova.. etc


Do you even know the remotest physics involved with those... or even how they're formed...

I'll give you a hint. Mass. They're creating a star via the fusion of 2 hydrogen isotopes. The mass = ~2 freaking grams.

The min. mass for a supernova, which is much less than that of a black hole, is approx 3.5 times the sun's mass. Shandrasomethinwhatnot limit.

It's been years since i took astronomy or physics, but just thinking back a wee bit i remember something along those lines.

People who freak out over OMG sun on earth/ LHC light speed = black hole OMG DOOMMMMMMMM are always fun to watch since you know they're freaking out so easily becuz they're not informed.

Umm.. They have all that info in that Article. Or it might've been another, but yes I have read it. I said it would be amazing, but at the same time they are not 100% sure of it either. They spend Billions of dollars on stuff like this when half the world is starving.


Well duh. Why waste billions of dollars trying to feed half the world. Most of the countries where people are starving have pretty fcked up governments. Any kind of aid would have to be passed through the government and results in a loss as it trickles down to the starving people. This has been seen many times in funding in Africa.


Think of if this way. Spend billions of dollars now to free ourselves from oil dependency. All we would need for it to run would be hydrogen from water or air. In return, enough energy to power everything. Seems like a pretty darn good investment to me.
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with the expected completion date for the research now at the end of 2012.

Gasp! Lol It's funny to see so many things with the date 2012 completion and someone has to point a finger at that.

Goseki wrote:Think of if this way. Spend billions of dollars now to free ourselves from oil dependency. All we would need for it to run would be hydrogen from water or air. In return, enough energy to power everything. Seems like a pretty darn good investment to me.


Freeing ourselves with the need of oil won't happen until the oil companies realized they just drilled all of it.
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Toshiharu wrote:Freeing ourselves with the need of oil won't happen until the oil companies realized they just drilled all of it.

Or let it all leak out into the gulf of Mexico.. see what I did there. :sohappy:

The possibility of fusion power:
It's not a function of science. It's a matter of whether the richest countries are willing to pay for it.


Here's a BBC episode related to this. Pretty interesting, worth the watch. The end of number 4 is awesome. At least watch the first few minutes of number 1.

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Goseki wrote:
Blackdragon6 wrote:http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/science/04/28/laser.fusion.nif/

I seen this on Philip Defrancos' new Show and googled it. Basically, they are taking a Gigantic laser the size of 3 football and firing a bunch into the same point to create a star...
If they're successful, the scientists hope to solve the global energy crisis by harnessing the energy generated by the mini-star.

I think it'd be an amazing thing, but is it really worth the risk? What happens when a Star Dies?... Black hole.. Super Nova.. etc


Do you even know the remotest physics involved with those... or even how they're formed...

I'll give you a hint. Mass. They're creating a star via the fusion of 2 hydrogen isotopes. The mass = ~2 freaking grams.

The min. mass for a supernova, which is much less than that of a black hole, is approx 3.5 times the sun's mass. Shandrasomethinwhatnot limit.

It's been years since i took astronomy or physics, but just thinking back a wee bit i remember something along those lines.

People who freak out over OMG sun on earth/ LHC light speed = black hole OMG DOOMMMMMMMM are always fun to watch since you know they're freaking out so easily becuz they're not informed.

You got to it first. :(

but yeah, loled when he was like "omgz the risk of black hole and supernova!!!!!!!!!!" :palm:
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Reise wrote:The fear about LHC wasn't black holes as much as it was about a quark swallowing all of existence.

Here's something else that can generate temps as hot as the sun:

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LOL :sohappy:
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What they are attempting is Laser Fusion.
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Blackdragon6 wrote:What they are attempting is Laser Fusion.


Using lasers to produce a nuclear fusion reaction, yes.

Fusion >>>> Fission, in terms of energy density.
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Goseki wrote:
Blackdragon6 wrote:http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/science/04/28/laser.fusion.nif/

I seen this on Philip Defrancos' new Show and googled it. Basically, they are taking a Gigantic laser the size of 3 football and firing a bunch into the same point to create a star...
If they're successful, the scientists hope to solve the global energy crisis by harnessing the energy generated by the mini-star.

I think it'd be an amazing thing, but is it really worth the risk? What happens when a Star Dies?... Black hole.. Super Nova.. etc


Do you even know the remotest physics involved with those... or even how they're formed...

I'll give you a hint. Mass. They're creating a star via the fusion of 2 hydrogen isotopes. The mass = ~2 freaking grams.

The min. mass for a supernova, which is much less than that of a black hole, is approx 3.5 times the sun's mass. Shandrasomethinwhatnot limit.

It's been years since i took astronomy or physics, but just thinking back a wee bit i remember something along those lines.

People who freak out over OMG sun on earth/ LHC light speed = black hole OMG DOOMMMMMMMM are always fun to watch since you know they're freaking out so easily becuz they're not informed.

I was pretty sure it was the other limit of 2.6 solar mass, could be wrong though.
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Wiki says the core has to be greater than 1.4 solar mass, main-seq stars is 8 solar mass.
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Goseki wrote:Wiki says the core has to be greater than 1.4 solar mass, main-seq stars is 8 solar mass.
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Blackdragon6 wrote:
Goseki wrote:Wiki says the core has to be greater than 1.4 solar mass, main-seq stars is 8 solar mass.
lol


lol wut?
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I remember as a kid there were like 4-5 movies that came out that was about getting the secret to Cold Fusion.
What is cold fusion and is it actually possible?
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3.4 solar masses for a black hole. (I feel like a cook)

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Squirt wrote:What is cold fusion and is it actually possible?

We've pretty much given up on cold fusion. It attempts to create fusion without much energy... Instead of the typical means, like in this article, of using lots of energy / extreme conditions to get the reaction started.

My roommate actually wrote a paper on cold fusion a few years ago.. I should see if he still has it.
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Squirt wrote:I remember as a kid there were like 4-5 movies that came out that was about getting the secret to Cold Fusion.
What is cold fusion and is it actually possible?

We actually thought we had it for a while too, some scientists from Denver I think, said they found it but turned out they were lying. they got kicked from scientific community :D
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My mom says that I'm a star on earth
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the next is Big Bang on Earth
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Squirt wrote:I remember as a kid there were like 4-5 movies that came out that was about getting the secret to Cold Fusion.
What is cold fusion and is it actually possible?


The idea that of creating fussion under relatively low temperatures.
normally you'd need thousands of degrees celcius to fuse certain molecules.

it is technically said to be unachievable, but somewhere in my mind I doubt it :P. everything is possible, just not everything is that easy.
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Blackdragon6 wrote:
If they're successful, the scientists hope to solve the global energy crisis by harnessing the energy generated by the mini-star.
Either way, It would solve all our problems
Or we gonna blow ourselves once and for all.. xD
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Goseki wrote:
Blackdragon6 wrote:http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/science/04/28/laser.fusion.nif/

I seen this on Philip Defrancos' new Show and googled it. Basically, they are taking a Gigantic laser the size of 3 football and firing a bunch into the same point to create a star...
If they're successful, the scientists hope to solve the global energy crisis by harnessing the energy generated by the mini-star.

I think it'd be an amazing thing, but is it really worth the risk? What happens when a Star Dies?... Black hole.. Super Nova.. etc


Do you even know the remotest physics involved with those... or even how they're formed...

I'll give you a hint. Mass. They're creating a star via the fusion of 2 hydrogen isotopes. The mass = ~2 freaking grams.

The min. mass for a supernova, which is much less than that of a black hole, is approx 3.5 times the sun's mass. Shandrasomethinwhatnot limit.

It's been years since i took astronomy or physics, but just thinking back a wee bit i remember something along those lines.

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NuclearSilo wrote:the next is Big Bang on Earth


Um, It's called the Large Hadron Collider.

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dom wrote:My mom says that I'm a star on earth

And only earth.
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I would bet the LHC is more dangerous than them attempting to create a star lol.
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pfft, the LHC is just made out of harmless materials
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