building a custom computer and needing some help

[SD]Twysta · Post by **[SD]Twysta** » Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:21 pm

Tip: Cut down on the keyboard, that's a Farking waste of money. It's an OK keyboard, but keyboards are keyboards. Macro keys are macro keys.
Suggestion: get a semi-simple keyboard. What are your demands when using? A simple keyboard gives you the same comfort as a high-end keyboard. The little display on the G15 is so pointless one couldn't even explain it to you. Way too expensive. I got myself the OCZ Alchemy Elixir keyboard, and it's mega cheap and mega quality.

What are your demands on keyboard/mouse? Because I think your setup on these 2 is insane.

I would highly suggest cutting down on your mouse/keyboard and spend that money on a proper video card because the one you selected is quite frankly crap.

What are your demands for graphical use?

[SD]Master_Wong · Post by **[SD]Master_Wong** » Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:53 pm

get
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... &Tpk=tp650

better more reliable

Amarisa · Post by **Amarisa** » Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:24 pm

vegetto71 wrote:heres what i picked out so far i may get some of these parts from ebay so it will be cheaper on me unless some of ya'll can suggest some cheaper but just as good parts for me

motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... -_-Product

CPU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819116347

computer case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... -_-Product

memory 2GB (2 x 1GB getting 2 of these)

Graphics card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814500148

power supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6817189014

monitor and speakers http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6824236068

not bad not bad i'm running a 9400 gt right now and its an alright card but i would say a 9800 version would last a lot longer.

here is my setup so it can possibly open new doors for you.

Spoiler!

this setup cost me close to 400-500 because i'm borrowing the graphics until i buy a bigger one. so far this setup has not failed me once.

cpinney · Post by **cpinney** » Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:33 pm

it would help us also if you told us how much you were looking to spend.

vegetto71 · Post by **vegetto71** » Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:36 pm

amarsia thats a nice setup but i'm wanting an itel and that case i have picked is one i really want badly, so i may use your setup except with the mobo, CPU and case i picked and use the rest you suggested except the psu since master Wong suggest one i will go with it as for the g15 it was highly recommended by some WN members that have it plus i can find it cheaper elsewhere so don't worry about the keyboard and mouse twysta but thank you for the tip, i have a budget of about 600 dollars, maybe a bit more not sure till i get my tax return in direct deposit

[SD]Master_Wong · Post by **[SD]Master_Wong** » Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:39 pm

vegetto71 wrote:amarsia thats a nice setup but i'm wanting an itel and that case i have picked is one i really want badly, so i may use your setup except with the mobo, CPU and case i picked and use the rest you suggested except the psu since master Wong suggest one i will go with it as for the g15 it was highly recommended by some WN members that have it plus i can find it cheaper elsewhere so don't worry about the keyboard and mouse twysta but thank you for the tip

the amd chips are cheaper and offer good standard compared to intel

i suggested 650 as 500w isnt much and with 650 you have more room to upgrade later

vegetto71 · Post by **vegetto71** » Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:43 pm

i will look into it master wong but i'm wanting a 3.4 mghz speed cpu, and i am going with the psu you pointed out to me, thank you

[SD]Master_Wong · Post by **[SD]Master_Wong** » Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:46 pm

vegetto71 wrote:i will look into it master wong but i'm wanting a 3.4 mghz speed cpu, and i am going with the psu you pointed out to me, thank you

nothing wrong with the amd phenom I or phenom II if you want more overclock but i doubt your in need of 3.4ghz anyways

cpinney · Post by **cpinney** » Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:49 pm

vegetto71 wrote:i will look into it master wong but i'm wanting a 3.4 mghz speed cpu, and i am going with the psu you pointed out to me, thank you

vegetto71 · Post by **vegetto71** » Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:51 pm

well i'm not gonna do any major hardcore gaming but i do want a 3.0 to 3.4 cpu speed since i will be getting some games that need it since this is my first custom built pc for myself i guess i could give amd a try since most of my computers are using an intel maybe a first time change would be good, cpinny what exactly is that supposed to be? lawl

cpinney · Post by **cpinney** » Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:58 pm

vegetto71 wrote:i will look into it master wong but i'm wanting a 3.4 mghz speed cpu, and i am going with the psu you pointed out to me, thank you

its my face when i saw that.

you mean GHZ, not mghz.

[SD]Master_Wong · Post by **[SD]Master_Wong** » Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:59 pm

vegetto71 wrote:well i'm not gonna do any major hardcore gaming but i do want a 3.0 to 3.4 cpu speed since i will be getting some games that need it, cpinny what exactly is that supposed to be? lawl

that wont effect your gaming that much im running 2.4ghz and iv not had problems with crysis on my 8800gt gfx card and thats as demanding as it gets right now

vegetto71 · Post by **vegetto71** » Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:03 pm

yea, sorry about that, i've been up since 5 am this morning trying to finish compiling my custom pc parts for when i get my tax return
in soon

well i'm planning on getting GH 3, vegas 2 and gonna try out star wars TFU USE for pc and TFU does need a 3.0 GHZ to run it so i'm wanting to try to get a bit more above what it needs which explains my need for 3.4 also mw 2 for pc does need it also

[SD]Master_Wong · Post by **[SD]Master_Wong** » Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:17 pm

vegetto71 wrote:yea, sorry about that, i've been up since 5 am this morning trying to finish compiling my custom pc parts for when i get my tax return
in soon

well i'm planning on getting GH 3, vegas 2 and gonna try out star wars TFU USE for pc and TFU does need a 3.0 GHZ to run it so i'm wanting to try to get a bit more above what it needs which explains my need for 3.4 also mw 2 for pc does need it also

checked its 2.4ghz min but that dont really matter i used to run games on my old laptop dispite its ghz been lower then the min

Amarisa · Post by **Amarisa** » Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:57 pm

[SD]Master_Wong wrote:
vegetto71 wrote:amarsia thats a nice setup but i'm wanting an itel and that case i have picked is one i really want badly, so i may use your setup except with the mobo, CPU and case i picked and use the rest you suggested except the psu since master Wong suggest one i will go with it as for the g15 it was highly recommended by some WN members that have it plus i can find it cheaper elsewhere so don't worry about the keyboard and mouse twysta but thank you for the tip

the amd chips are cheaper and offer good standard compared to intel

i suggested 650 as 500w isnt much and with 650 you have more room to upgrade later

you really only need 650 if you are planning to sli/crossfire later on or attempt to power the dual gpu cards.

vegetto71 wrote:yea, sorry about that, i've been up since 5 am this morning trying to finish compiling my custom pc parts for when i get my tax return
in soon

well i'm planning on getting GH 3, vegas 2 and gonna try out star wars TFU USE for pc and TFU does need a 3.0 GHZ to run it so i'm wanting to try to get a bit more above what it needs which explains my need for 3.4 also mw 2 for pc does need it also

most of the time its the type of chip over ghz i'm pretty sure you need a 3.2 ghz if you are running a single core but with a dual core all you need is 2.4 ghz to run any game on the market.

EvGa · Post by **EvGa** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:01 am

Intel i3-530 - $125
Asrock H55M - $85

Use the i3 integrated gpu until you have money to get a better gpu. From what I've seen Intels integrated HD chip isn't too bad of a performer.

i3 will easily overclock past 3.5Ghz.

vegetto71 · Post by **vegetto71** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:24 am

Amarisa · Post by **Amarisa** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:55 am

vegetto71 wrote:thanks evga, i'm already looking into multiple configrations of parts from amd and intel while trying to save money
heres the configurations i'm working on so far

configure 1 price total 616.91

case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... -_-Product

mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813121396

CPU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819115221

CPU 2 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819115220

memory http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820134792

Graphics Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... -_-Product

power supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... &Tpk=tp650

configure 2 price total 577.49

case same as configure 1

mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813157138

CPU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819115059

Memory same as configure 1

graphics card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814130522

power supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6817148041

i'm currently working on one with amd phenom 2 cpu

if your going intel don't get anything that uses the 775 socket its becoming outdated go with the i5 the new ones are 32 nm so it will run cool.

for amd i would recommend the 955 BE
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... -_-Product

or the one i have in fact even with its missing L3 cache it runs just as well as the 965 BE from amd at the same clock speeds falls behind in places that L3 shines but not by far.

there is a lot to learn about all these CPU's before you buy look at review and benchmarks

EvGa · Post by **EvGa** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 2:04 am

No reason at all to go for the 540 over the 530, save your money. That tiny increase in clock speed isn't worth it, especially with how well of an overclcoker the i3 series is. Like I said, the 530 should hit 3.5+Ghz easily. Go with the Asrock board..it's cheaper and probably oc's better. Unless you need more pci slots..don't see why you would.

Scrap configuration 2, no reason to go with a 775 dual core with the cheaper, more powerful i3 alternative.

Third, do you need a hard drive?

Ok, here is what I would do with $650..it's hard to beat this:

Scrap that case for a cheaper one could save some $$$. Notice, that shopping cart has a harddrive. Do you have an OS?

Amarisa · Post by **Amarisa** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 2:59 am

EvGa wrote:No reason at all to go for the 540 over the 530, save your money. That tiny increase in clock speed isn't worth it, especially with how well of an overclcoker the i3 series is. Like I said, the 530 should hit 3.5+Ghz easily. Go with the Asrock board..it's cheaper and probably oc's better. Unless you need more pci slots..don't see why you would.

Scrap configuration 2, no reason to go with a 775 dual core with the cheaper, more powerful i3 alternative.

Third, do you need a hard drive?

Ok, here is what I would do with $650..it's hard to beat this:

Scrap that case for a cheaper one could save some $$$. Notice, that shopping cart has a harddrive. Do you have an OS?

i like that setup

i also noticed that the new i5's are dual cores -.-

Amarisa · Post by **Amarisa** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 2:59 am

EvGa wrote:No reason at all to go for the 540 over the 530, save your money. That tiny increase in clock speed isn't worth it, especially with how well of an overclcoker the i3 series is. Like I said, the 530 should hit 3.5+Ghz easily. Go with the Asrock board..it's cheaper and probably oc's better. Unless you need more pci slots..don't see why you would.

Scrap configuration 2, no reason to go with a 775 dual core with the cheaper, more powerful i3 alternative.

Third, do you need a hard drive?

Ok, here is what I would do with $650..it's hard to beat this:

Scrap that case for a cheaper one could save some $$$. Notice, that shopping cart has a harddrive. Do you have an OS?

i like that setup

i also noticed that the new i5's are dual cores -.-

[SD]Master_Wong · Post by **[SD]Master_Wong** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:05 am

400w supply with that fine maybe 650 is a little much unless you have plans to use it but 400w supply will need to be upgraded pretty quick if you want to say upgrade gfx card better to spend the extra $50 get the one i suggested and have the room, i mean if you want to overclock (you can with that case) your going to want more juice to play with

Amarisa · Post by **Amarisa** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:19 am

[SD]Master_Wong wrote:400w supply with that fine maybe 650 is a little much unless you have plans to use it but 400w supply will need to be upgraded pretty quick if you want to say upgrade gfx card better to spend the extra $50 get the one i suggested and have the room, i mean if you want to overclock (you can with that case) your going to want more juice to play with

i would say 550 would be more then enough for most mid level graphic cards even with overclocking.

[SD]Master_Wong · Post by **[SD]Master_Wong** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:22 am

Amarisa wrote:
[SD]Master_Wong wrote:400w supply with that fine maybe 650 is a little much unless you have plans to use it but 400w supply will need to be upgraded pretty quick if you want to say upgrade gfx card better to spend the extra $50 get the one i suggested and have the room, i mean if you want to overclock (you can with that case) your going to want more juice to play with

i would say 550 would be more then enough for most mid level graphic cards even with overclocking.

but we agree 400w is too low lol but with psu you want to check them out make sure they are good a stable power supply = stable computer

vegetto71 · Post by **vegetto71** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:24 am

well i do have windows xp home edition, for a hdd i was gonna pick up a 250 or 320 from wal mart, thing is i only have 600 or 700 to work with, if theres parts ya'll can find that i can get with a budget of about 600 dollars, max is 700 than i would greatly appreciate it please post the links so i can compile them into separate configurations and bookmark them

[SD]Master_Wong · Post by **[SD]Master_Wong** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:27 am

hdds are cheap theres no reason to go under 500gb these days for the price. would stil def suggest amd phenomx4 II as its cheap good chip but the i3/i5/i7 are all good too i7 can be pricy though

EvGa · Post by **EvGa** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:46 am

vegetto71 wrote:well i do have windows xp home edition, for a hdd i was gonna pick up a 250 or 320 from wal mart, thing is i only have 600 or 700 to work with, if theres parts ya'll can find that i can get with a budget of about 600 dollars, max is 700 than i would greatly appreciate it please post the links so i can compile them into separate configurations and bookmark them

I posted a complete list for $650.. It's going to be hard to beat that. Hard drive included...

The corsair psu is fine for that build.. the i3 doesn't use very much power nor does the 5770.

Amarisa · Post by **Amarisa** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:15 am

[SD]Master_Wong wrote:hdds are cheap theres no reason to go under 500gb these days for the price. would stil def suggest amd phenomx4 II as its cheap good chip but the i3/i5/i7 are all good too i7 can be pricy though

pretty much you can buy a dual core from intel or buy a quad core from amd for around the same price now. i mean come on a 3.2ghz quad core from amd around $160 then a i3 for $140 and a dual core i5 for $195. though the normal i5 is $200 for a quad core......... but you can't beat the $100 quad core

EvGa · Post by **EvGa** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:25 am

$125 for i3-530. Can hit 4Ghz on air, near stock volts.

Check out this review, pay attention to page 4. HERE

i3 looks like your best choice. Especially if you do a little reading and learn to overclock, it's not that hard.

Amarisa · Post by **Amarisa** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:38 am

EvGa wrote:$125 for i3-530. Can hit 4Ghz on air, near stock volts.

Check out this review, pay attention to page 4. HERE

i3 looks like your best choice. Especially if you do a little reading and learn to overclock, it's not that hard.

anything over 3.2ghz is really just pushing into the realm of uselessness besides from what i can pickup he wants a budget computer that will work very nice right out the box almost. thats why i would suggest the 955 or i5 750 or even the 620-630 if you really just want something cheap and will run anything you throw at it.

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