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The plane takes off because of the force it pushes behind it right? It doesn't seem to different then if you tied a string to the back of the plane while its going full blast, would it stay in mid air pulling the string tight? Yus.
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CeLL wrote:why does a plane even need to move down a runway? why not create take off stations then?


They should install those things on fighter jets that allow vertical takeoff from a standstill to airliners and cargo planes too. :roll:
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If I'm understanding this experiment right, the wheels would break before it took off. The engine push the plane forward. The plane would always stay in one place because the wheels are stay in one place, they do not move forward or backwards, always staying in one place.

That might not make sense.

The experiment is physically impossible though.
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X-Lax wrote:If I'm understanding this experiment right, the wheels would break before it took off. The engine push the plane forward. The plane would always stay in one place because the wheels are stay in one place, they do not move forward or backwards, always staying in one place.

That might not make sense.

The experiment is physically impossible though.


Oh, this post almost contains the right answer, lets see who actually applies the correct explanation to the answer first. :)
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if the conveyer belt produces enough air underneath the airplane then yes it can take off. I however strongly doubt that it does, so I say it won't fly and inch.
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EvGa wrote:
X-Lax wrote:If I'm understanding this experiment right, the wheels would break before it took off. The engine push the plane forward. The plane would always stay in one place because the wheels are stay in one place, they do not move forward or backwards, always staying in one place.

That might not make sense.

The experiment is physically impossible though.


Oh, this post almost contains the right answer, lets see who actually applies the correct explanation to the answer first. :)

so essentially the walrus' at myth busters r wrong.
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The thrust of the airplane engines acts on the air, not on the ground, so regardless of the speed of rotation of the wheels and/or runway, the plane would successfully take off.
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CeLL wrote:
EvGa wrote:
X-Lax wrote:If I'm understanding this experiment right, the wheels would break before it took off. The engine push the plane forward. The plane would always stay in one place because the wheels are stay in one place, they do not move forward or backwards, always staying in one place.

That might not make sense.

The experiment is physically impossible though.


Oh, this post almost contains the right answer, lets see who actually applies the correct explanation to the answer first. :)

so essentially the walrus' at myth busters r wrong.


Nope. :sohappy:


*Tempted to give X-Lax the cookie, but his reply isn't technically correct. It'll make sense when you see it...
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Yes the plane will take off. Air speed is different than land speed. The wheels are free moving...they are just there for balance. The plane will have forward movement and will take off......the wheels will just be spinning twice as fast.

The wheels arent producing the forward movement....the engine thrust is. A car on a conveyer belt will stay sill because it uses its wheels to produce forward movement. A plane would move forward normally because it does not use the wheels to produce the forward movement so the conveyer bely wouldnt even be in the equation.....besides spinning the wheels backward trwice as fast.
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dude just give the fcking cookie to someone already!
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Smi!ezZ wrote:dude just give the fcking cookie to someone already!

No one is right..
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the test is physically impossible therefore unable to determine a true correct answer..
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.AWAKE. wrote:the test is physically impossible therefore unable to determine a true correct answer..

Winner. Here is your pat on the back and cookie.

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The experiment, the way it is worded, is impossible. If the airplane is attempting to takeoff, providing thrust from a jet engine or prop engine, the conveyor can not match the speed of the wheels.

If the wheels spin at a certain speed as the plane moves forward (thrust) and the conveyor tries to match the wheels speed, the wheels will spin even faster. Impossible experiment.

Now, without the words "exactly match", the airplane WOULD be able to take off regardless how fast the conveyor belt moves in the opposite direction.

Thank you all for playing. :P
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going to smoke a victory bowl right now
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EvGa wrote:
.AWAKE. wrote:the test is physically impossible therefore unable to determine a true correct answer..

Winner. Here is your pat on the back and cookie.

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The experiment, the way it is worded, is impossible. If the airplane is attempting to takeoff, providing thrust from a jet engine or prop engine, the conveyor can not match the speed of the wheels.

If the wheels spin at a certain speed as the plane moves forward (thrust) and the conveyor tries to match the wheels speed, the wheels will spin even faster. Impossible experiment.

Now, without the words "exactly match", the airplane WOULD be able to take off regardless how fast the conveyor belt moves in the opposite direction.

Thank you all for playing. :P

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Smi!ezZ wrote:GAY


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EvGa wrote:
Smi!ezZ wrote:GAY


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EvGa wrote:
Smi!ezZ wrote:GAY


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lmfao ahahahaha saved.
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