WATCH THIS, IT MATTERS
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cant believe so many people get drawn to such nonsense and think its real. Why don't you just stay in school, get a good job, raise a family, and then retire happily in a sunny beach house instead of wasting your time.

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Jstar1 wrote:cant believe so many people get drawn to such nonsense and think its real. Why don't you just stay in school, get a good job, raise a family, and then retire happily in a sunny beach house instead of wasting your time.
Sounds like someones been brainwashed.

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Yup, that's how conspiracy theories get started. They manipulate the truth to make it seem like something else is going on.
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I bet most of the people saying zeitgeist is bullshit didn't even watch the videos. They just see "conspiracy theory" and immediately dismiss it. I think these videos are good to bring certain issues to light that we may not have thought about, but it must be taken with a grain of salt.
That being said, zeitgeist is a little too vague with the information and the speculations are twisted towards the bias of the video's maker. It would do you well to check out the sites that debunk the information given in zeitgeist before you form an opinion.
That being said, zeitgeist is a little too vague with the information and the speculations are twisted towards the bias of the video's maker. It would do you well to check out the sites that debunk the information given in zeitgeist before you form an opinion.
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Fury wrote:Jstar1 wrote:cant believe so many people get drawn to such nonsense and think its real. Why don't you just stay in school, get a good job, raise a family, and then retire happily in a sunny beach house instead of wasting your time.
Sounds like someones been brainwashed.
He would be blessed if it only "sounded" like he was ( along with many others who are so out of it that engaging is not a consideration for myself ).
Btw my dad is an architect who has lead real buiildings projects; buildings dont just plummet like they did in the 9/11 case, let alone it happening twice with obscured explosion reports that you never heard of.
Ask yourself always, who profits ?..... you might become an intelligent being if you choose to take that path...
@jstar: ya, you are a retard ....but thankfully you are not alone, you can be friends with Fug_Dup and Goseki ( who dared judge me using his ignorance as a base, what an insolent, righteously unworthy of a direct insult ).

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Love wrote:He would be blessed if it only "sounded" like he was ( along with many others who are so out of it that engaging is not a consideration for myself ).
Btw my dad is an architect who has lead real buiildings projects; buildings dont just plummet like they did in the 9/11 case, let alone it happening twice with obscured explosion reports that you never heard of.
Ask yourself always, who profits ?..... you might become an intelligent being if you choose to take that path...
@jstar: ya, you are a retard ....but thankfully you are not alone, you can be friends with Fug_Dup and Goseki ( who dared judge me using his ignorance as a base, what an insolent, righteously undeserving of a direct insult ).
First, http://people.howstuffworks.com/occams-razor.htm.
The film is simply crammed full with half-truths and outright lies. It's method seems to be to bombard the viewer with so much nonsense they don't have enough time to engage their critical faculties and so accept it all as true. Little of what is said has any kind of scholarly backing, but is merely a collection of misinformation from various web sites. It's utter drivel. Every single aspect of this conspiracy film is based on extreme paranoia, lack of research, and quite honestly, ignorance. Life isn't a sci-fi flick. As I've said before, I have watched movies like Zeitgeist and Loose Change. Then I did my own research, and came to my own conclusion through logic and reasoning that 9/11 was in fact a terrorist attack and discovered various other inconsistencies mentioned in the films along the way.
Furthermore, listening to yourself != thinking for yourself
If you continue to only listen to yourself, you will always believe that you are right.
Speaking of thinking for yourself (or not in your case), there's a running pattern these films seem to have. They all say they just want you to "make up your own mind." It's always, "I'm just giving you the facts, you can decide for yourself," but as soon as that hits the screen they go on about how everyone is blind and doesn't see the "truth," which seems to be a complete contradiction to me. If everyone is automatically brainwashed and misguided because they don't feel like agreeing to every fatalist conspiracy theory, then there is not much room for "making up your mind."
I hate it when people get contentious and think they're revolutionaries privy to some incredible "information". Grow the hell up.
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Zeitgeist is older than the internet. I can't believe people still get fooled with their videos. Half the time, these videos don't have any sources. 
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Re: WATCH THIS, IT MATTERS
Love wrote:He would be blessed if it only "sounded" like he was ( along with many others who are so out of it that engaging is not a consideration for myself ).
Btw my dad is an architect who has lead real buiildings projects; buildings dont just plummet like they did in the 9/11 case, let alone it happening twice with obscured explosion reports that you never heard of.
Ask yourself always, who profits ?..... you might become an intelligent being if you choose to take that path...
@jstar: ya, you are a retard ....but thankfully you are not alone, you can be friends with Fug_Dup and Goseki ( who dared judge me using his ignorance as a base, what an insolent, righteously unworthy of a direct insult ).
@ Love: My ignorance? What have you offered... a video made by someone else? Anything else you'd like to back it up with? Hell, you still haven't answered my question, but judging from your comments, I'd have to guess you're still in high school at best. Go learn about the basics of global economics first. Until than, don't go around calling people ignorant when you yourself have nothing more than mouth-to-ear as your backup.
And btw, throwing big words together as an attempt to insult doesn't have the same effect if you have nothing to back it up with. If anything it just makes you look like a kid who can't think of any words to use as a clever insult and resorted to copy-pasting a few words you remember from Gladiator.
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Love wrote:Fury wrote:Jstar1 wrote:cant believe so many people get drawn to such nonsense and think its real. Why don't you just stay in school, get a good job, raise a family, and then retire happily in a sunny beach house instead of wasting your time.
Sounds like someones been brainwashed.
He would be blessed if it only "sounded" like he was ( along with many others who are so out of it that engaging is not a consideration for myself ).
Btw my dad is an architect who has lead real buiildings projects; buildings dont just plummet like they did in the 9/11 case, let alone it happening twice with obscured explosion reports that you never heard of.
Ask yourself always, who profits ?..... you might become an intelligent being if you choose to take that path...
@jstar: ya, you are a retard ....but thankfully you are not alone, you can be friends with Fug_Dup and Goseki ( who dared judge me using his ignorance as a base, what an insolent, righteously unworthy of a direct insult ).
Oh deary me.
Stuck up your own arrogant ass as always.
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Reise wrote:My family is in the Masons.
Zeitgeist is full of shit, end of story.
You can all go home now.
Obviously Reise is part of the conspiracy!1!!!oneon11eleven!!1
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Toasty wrote:Oh deary me.
Stuck up your own arrogant ass as always.
Let me look up nutrition facts for veteran athletes online and then prescribe them with harmful exercises routines that directly counter any efforts on the person to accomplish anything, and then, I'll call myself an expert and point out how wrong and nonfactual others are when in reality I am an idiot who has accomplished nothing, knows nothing, and has never done a thing, oh wait this is you ...
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Love wrote:Toasty wrote:Oh deary me.
Stuck up your own arrogant ass as always.
Let me look up nutrition facts for veteran athletes online and then prescribe them with harmful exercises routines that directly counter any efforts on the person to accomplish anything, and then, I'll call myself an expert and point out how wrong and nonfactual others are when in reality I am an idiot who has accomplished nothing, knows nothing and has never done a thing, oh wait this is you ...
Derailing your own thread?
Ok, each to their own.
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Toasty wrote:Love wrote:Toasty wrote:Oh deary me.
Stuck up your own arrogant ass as always.
Let me look up nutrition facts for veteran athletes online and then prescribe them with harmful exercises routines that directly counter any efforts on the person to accomplish anything, and then, I'll call myself an expert and point out how wrong and nonfactual others are when in reality I am an idiot who has accomplished nothing, knows nothing and has never done a thing, oh wait this is you ...
Derailing your own thread?
Ok, each to their own.
Oh I am sorry, I was under the impression you posted something of actual value here and didn't just post to take a hit when in reality you got nothing on me and this is the best you can do, I must have made a mistake after all.

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Oh I am sorry, I was under the impression you posted something of actual value here and didn't just post to take a hit when in reality you got nothing on me and this is the best you can do, I must have made a mistake after all.
No, i just dont like you.. so i dont care.
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Point of this movie
Think with an open mind
accept other possibilities
BUT TAKE NOTHING AS FACT
come on it's not like zeitgeist is the one and only conspiracy movie....
Think with an open mind
accept other possibilities
BUT TAKE NOTHING AS FACT
come on it's not like zeitgeist is the one and only conspiracy movie....
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Toasty wrote:Oh I am sorry, I was under the impression you posted something of actual value here and didn't just post to take a hit when in reality you got nothing on me and this is the best you can do, I must have made a mistake after all.
No, i just dont like you.. so i dont care.
Now isn't your behavior that of a winner.
Azilius wrote:Point of this movie
Think with an open mind
accept other possibilities
BUT TAKE NOTHING AS FACT
come on it's not like zeitgeist is the one and only conspiracy movie....
Finally, too bad common sense is not that common.
edit: evaluate other possibilities would be a better way of putting it for myself
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Love wrote:Azilius wrote:Point of this movie
Think with an open mind
accept other possibilities
BUT TAKE NOTHING AS FACT
come on it's not like zeitgeist is the one and only conspiracy movie....
Finally, too bad common sense is not that common.
Well with your initial presentation you seemed much more inclined to believe this as fact..
Just what I got from your initial posts
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Azilius wrote:Love wrote:Azilius wrote:Point of this movie
Think with an open mind
accept other possibilities
BUT TAKE NOTHING AS FACT
come on it's not like zeitgeist is the one and only conspiracy movie....
Finally, too bad common sense is not that common.
Well with your initial presentation you seemed much more inclined to believe this as fact..
Just what I got from your initial posts
I do believe that many things make sense and explain/work together with many other facts I happen to know and always thought separately, your comment is more than fair but I never actually pushed any of it as fact because I have not done enough research on it, now I did backslash somewhat to those who bluntly dismissed it without a compelling argument or no argument at all, reason being, couse well, is just idiotic.

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Love you sound like you realized how much of a fool you made yourself to be and are now trying to cover it up lol.
Weren't you around the first time the movie hit the internet? We had a giant thread about it back then.
Weren't you around the first time the movie hit the internet? We had a giant thread about it back then.
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Reise wrote:Love you sound like you realized how much of a fool you made yourself to be and are now trying to cover it up lol.
Weren't you around the first time the movie hit the internet? We had a giant thread about it back then.
nope, I wouldn't be so animated if that was the case, would be nice to find that thread and read actual caring thoughts regarding the subject though.
btw I largely believe this to be possible and am starting my own research before I can voice a final opinion on it, you would be wrong to assume I am retracting anything I have said, I am just not being a tool and assuming I am an absolute correct and others are a bunch of idiots who can't examine "facts" correctly on their own.

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Love wrote:Reise wrote:Love you sound like you realized how much of a fool you made yourself to be and are now trying to cover it up lol.
Weren't you around the first time the movie hit the internet? We had a giant thread about it back then.
nope, I wouldn't be so animated if that was the case, would be nice to find that thread and read actual caring thoughts regarding the subject though.
Actually, you are covering up your ass.

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X-Lax wrote:Love wrote:Reise wrote:Love you sound like you realized how much of a fool you made yourself to be and are now trying to cover it up lol.
Weren't you around the first time the movie hit the internet? We had a giant thread about it back then.
nope, I wouldn't be so animated if that was the case, would be nice to find that thread and read actual caring thoughts regarding the subject though.
Actually, you are covering up your ass.
Why don't you show me where I did this then ? you seem to have business with your ass as well, pulling stuff out of it.

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Love wrote:Why don't you show me where I did this then ? you seem to have business with your ass as well, pulling stuff out of it.
I really don't need to.


