Obama's been in office a year

[Breed]

Thoughts?

[EvGa]

Election of Brown in Mass. has a good possibility of shooting down President Obama's healthcare reform, his main agenda.

Copy-Pasta: (Some goods, lotsa bads, not blaming it on President Obama, just posting numbers)

Highlights of Obama's first year, by the numbers:

7,949.09-Dow Jones Industrial Average close on Jan. 20, 2009.

10,609.65-Dow Jones Industrial Average close on Jan. 15, 2010.

13 million-Number of people 16 and older unemployed as of January 2009.

14.7 million-Number of people 16 and older unemployed as of December 2009.

7.7 percent-Unemployment rate January 2009

10.0 percent-Unemployment rate December 2009

$787 billion-Cost of economic stimulus approved by Congress.

$10.6 trillion-Outstanding public debt Jan. 20, 2009.

$12.3 trillion-Outstanding public debt Jan. 14, 2009.

$296.4 billion-Federal spending from the financial crisis bailout fund before Jan. 20, 2009.

$173 billion-Federal spending from the financial crisis bailout fund after Jan. 20, 2009.

$165 billion-Amount of bailout funds repaid by banks and automakers.

139-Bank failures between Jan. 20, 2009, and Jan. 14, 2010.

274,399-Number of properties that received forclosure-related notices in January 2009.

349,519-Number of properties that received forclosure-related notices in December 2009.

34,400-U.S. troops in Afghanistan in January 2009.

70,000-U.S. troops in Afghanistan as of Jan. 12, 2010.

319-U.S. military deaths in Afghanistan from January 2009 through Jan. 15, 2010.

139,500-U.S. troops in Iraq in January 2009.

111,000-U.S. troops in Iraq as of Jan. 12, 2010.

152-U.S. military deaths in Iraq from January 2009 through Jan. 15, 2010.

539-Appointments to top federal policy positions submitted to the Senate

352-Appointments confirmed by the Senate.

180-Appointments in top policy positions carried over from the Bush administration.

12-Formal news conferences.

21-Foreign countries visited.

29-States visited.

10-Visits to Camp David.

2-Vacations.



Sources:

AP reporting and analysis

Bureau of Labor Statistics

Treasury Department

Federal Deposit Insurance Corp.

RealtyTrac Inc.

Defense Department

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[DaggerMAte]

Election of Brown in Mass. has a good possibility of shooting down President Obama's healthcare reform, his main agenda.

Copy-Pasta: (Some goods, lotsa bads, not blaming it on President Obama, just posting numbers)

Highlights of Obama's first year, by the numbers:

7,949.09-Dow Jones Industrial Average close on Jan. 20, 2009.

10,609.65-Dow Jones Industrial Average close on Jan. 15, 2010.

13 million-Number of people 16 and older unemployed as of January 2009.

14.7 million-Number of people 16 and older unemployed as of December 2009.

7.7 percent-Unemployment rate January 2009

10.0 percent-Unemployment rate December 2009

$787 billion-Cost of economic stimulus approved by Congress.

$10.6 trillion-Outstanding public debt Jan. 20, 2009.

$12.3 trillion-Outstanding public debt Jan. 14, 2009.

$296.4 billion-Federal spending from the financial crisis bailout fund before Jan. 20, 2009.

$173 billion-Federal spending from the financial crisis bailout fund after Jan. 20, 2009.

$165 billion-Amount of bailout funds repaid by banks and automakers.

139-Bank failures between Jan. 20, 2009, and Jan. 14, 2010.

274,399-Number of properties that received forclosure-related notices in January 2009.

349,519-Number of properties that received forclosure-related notices in December 2009.

34,400-U.S. troops in Afghanistan in January 2009.

70,000-U.S. troops in Afghanistan as of Jan. 12, 2010.

319-U.S. military deaths in Afghanistan from January 2009 through Jan. 15, 2010.

139,500-U.S. troops in Iraq in January 2009.

111,000-U.S. troops in Iraq as of Jan. 12, 2010.

152-U.S. military deaths in Iraq from January 2009 through Jan. 15, 2010.

539-Appointments to top federal policy positions submitted to the Senate

352-Appointments confirmed by the Senate.

180-Appointments in top policy positions carried over from the Bush administration.

12-Formal news conferences.

21-Foreign countries visited.

29-States visited.

10-Visits to Camp David.

2-Vacations.



Sources:

AP reporting and analysis

Bureau of Labor Statistics

Treasury Department

Federal Deposit Insurance Corp.

RealtyTrac Inc.

Defense Department

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+1 I think only Obama got elected because of that change crap. Things did change... in the wrong direction.

[woutR]

Well it's kinda unfair to judge him on a lot of the financial troubles, but I think the amount of soldiers in Afghanistan is a real poor deliverance of his promises.
Not that I don't agree, I'd like to see every country with every soldier in Afghanistan, but Obama promised to decrease the amount of soliders in Afghanistan / Iraq.

[XemnasXD]

First of all to those anyone who will start talking about the reasons he got elected, remember who was campaigning against and imagine the kind of place we'd be in with him as president. Probably the exact same place only with the rest of the world still hating us completely. Also the democrats may no longer have a super majority but they still have a HUGE majority. They won't do anything with it but people are blowing this Mass election out of proportion.

4 years isn't a very long time. As for his first year in office he's more or less done what i expected to do which was continuing the overall work of Bush the administration fiscally and militarily while undoing the thing democrats spoke out loudly against socially. His hands are tied in many places and he inherited alot of problems and doesn't have the power to make the changes necessary to deal with them properly, he can just try to make his ineffective alterations work as well as possible.

This year has highlighted the weakness of the democratic. It seems that where the republicans screw everything up the democrats just do nothing. A senate majority and a democratic president should've made it extremely easy for them to get anything done but at the end of the day they just showed that they're just republicans in disguise, even worse because republicans seem to follow the party no matter what and seem to be extremely loyal whereas democrats turn their backs on each other and have a more person agenda policy.

I dunno i've always believed that voting is important and that the american political system despite its flaws can still be fixed. When Reps are in office, a bunch of bad decisions and tax breaks for rich people. Dems are in office a bunch of ineffective decisions and infighting. Theres no one left to vote for. I could go independent and watch them stand for something all alone with no one listening. Maybe thats better than nothing.

For the record i honestly thing that Obama is doing the best he can with what he's got. Its a shit system, i never expected him to make miracles...just not make it shittier...

[Muse]

Sure doesn't feel like a year since he's been in office.

[Nick Invaders]

Sure doesn't feel like a year since he's been in office.

To me it feels like 5 days.

[CeLL]

He was handed a terrible scenario. No president without magic powers could have done any better than him.

[Nick Invaders]

He was handed a terrible scenario. No president without magic powers could have done any better than him.

Could not have said it better.

[poehalcho]

He was handed a terrible scenario. No president without magic powers could have done any better than him.

Could not have said it better.

yep, expect the first 3 years to go badly and by the fourth to have cleared things out just a bit so the country can survive, unfortunately with the Americans being the retards that they are they won't vote for him a second time so he can finish what he started =/.

For something good to happens things gotta go bad first.

[CeLL]

For something good to happens things gotta go bad first.

and his name was bush...

[Sharp324]

Eh, screw it. Forum politic talk never goes anywhere

[CeLL]

Why would we vote for him again? Theres no reason too. Little puppet.

honestly it would seem all democrats have been little puppets to the republican agenda for at least 9 years now. bush wouldnt have been able to do the things he did if the democrats in senate did something to stop him. it may well be the fear tactics playing the us public lead by the republicans that prevented actions. i dont know. i just wish they would grow some balls and fix our country.

[Deadsolid]

Please don't try to blame the economy on Obama. It's called momentum. Shits going to happen until it runs out of energy and eventually it will turn the other way. It's not like he was going to magically make things better.

Afghanistan was a screw up, but we can't abandon it like we did after their war with Russia.

I have yet to hear a complaint against health care that makes sense. You want to debate whether single payer is the way to go or not, that's fine. Just don't try to invoke the "death panel" bullshit.

In all, I don't think he's been given a fair shot. A lot of Bush's problems were dumped onto Obama's lap ( I would rather not make excuses, but he isn't responsible for how shitty things were when he got them). He has another 3 years. There are more elections to come. Even though they lost the majority, his "agenda" isn't finished.

/rant



Edit:

Eh, screw it. Forum politic talk never goes anywhere

+1

[_Equal_]

Thoughts? You didn't give me a fuckin' PENNY!

Ontopic: could be worse, here's hoping he can get the healthcare passed. Scott Brown won't be the end of it.

The rest: Yeah, Dems/Republicans, all the same. I'm giving him the rest of the 3 years, we'll see if people vote for him again then.

[EvGa]

It's funny how you can put the entire blame on a single person. President Obama, Bush, whoever.

I'm sick of the partisan bullsh1t, just come together and fix this shit. It's all about them and not about the people..

BTW - I'm not a fan of Bush or President Obama.

[Barotix]

Both democrats & republicans suck. It's about time people realize they might as well be the same party, refer to my old post for more. CBA to have a political discussion after I called it, there would be no substantial change. It isn't possible. Republicans & Democrats have the same agenda, expanding government power. They just disagree on how to go about doing it.

The President is not a magician, he does not have the power to "fix" an economy. It's impossible, change was never coming. At least not from the republicrats.

[Jstar1]

He was handed a terrible scenario. No president without magic powers could have done any better than him.

exactly. Republicans are so immature, they criticize obama when the deficit began with bush, 2 expensive wars were caused by bush, and obama happened to inherit an economy at a low economic cycle

but then the american public is full of morons so of course they would vote for brown in massachusetts, haven't any fucking patience.

[EvGa]

More partisan BS.

Both sides are self-serving. After all, the only goal of a politician is to get elected. Not the betterment of the nation.

[XemnasXD]

More partisan BS.

Both sides are self-serving. After all, the only goal of a politician is to get elected. Not the betterment of the nation.

exactly. People are career politicians now. Holding an office has become a job instead of an honor so people treat it like a job and use and abuse it to get as much out of it for themselves and don't care that they no longer represent the people....

[Nick Invaders]

For the greater good!

[Goseki]

He was handed a terrible scenario. No president without magic powers could have done any better than him.

True that. What most people don't realize is that it's like a roller coaster, when you start going down, it builds up momentum.

Best example I can think of is Japan's inflation. The government put the people in a very hard place and despite protest, they kept at it. The Japanese currency was very inflated, but once gov started fixing it, things rose to insane levels. 1 lb of fish or rice would go from say 10$ to $100. People suffered, but once the plan finished, the currency regained it's old value and all was good. If the government had succumbed, Japan's currency could've ended up like Germany's.

Also, Obama is in a tough situation. Political pressure seem to be pushing him to go with a current plan that will basically cut the US GDP by about 3-5 trillion. It'll give a rapid fix to the economy, but it will have bad consequences in the long run since it's basically we're giving up all that money for a temp fix right now to make idiots happy.

[Ganja]

[Ownage]

Why does everyone blame the president, though he does have a say in laws, he cannot make them, he can only hope Congress goes with what he wants. The Congress is to blame and people are apparently forgetting that. Also Bush probably couldn't have had it worst. First 9/11, then this Global Warming (not too big of a issue) then come 2005 with Katrina and more devastating hurricane's. Also he couldn't avoid that war on Iraq, he didn't want the war well he probably did but the people did as well, its just now the war is turning useless and we want out, which is hard to do with any war.

[Love]

He was handed a terrible scenario. No president without magic powers could have done any better than him.

No you are wrong, like not even close bud.

Obama is a sellout, do not be mistaken. He isn't out to represent the interest of the American people, he is just one more backstabbing whore who does not care if families all over America suffer as long as his corp interests are content.

Having said that I do think the alternative would've been worse but that does not change the fact that we're getting butt raped in plane daylight. If you have any questions regarding this, well simply refer to healthcare reform; no excuses, no bs.

and ftr if you don't absolutely agree with the above comments you are a less informed ignorant moron ( badass, saves me from insulting people in the future *self high five* ).

edit: Makes me wonder about what Hilary could've been, perhaps I was too naive about the entire situation and the machine destroyed her or perhaps she is just one more, still we are in need of solutions and the only thing that looks right is Alan Grayson.

[Midori]

Also he couldn't avoid that war on Iraq, he didn't want the war well he probably did but the people did as well, its just now the war is turning useless and we want out, which is hard to do with any war.

Umm, yes, he could have...

The only justified war that we are in is Afghanistan, and i believe its a great thing that we are sending more troops there, they need the help.

[Smi!ezZ]

I like Obama. He is a gud person. Oh he is the President? hmmm..

[John_Doe]

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[CeLL]

He was handed a terrible scenario. No president without magic powers could have done any better than him.

No you are wrong, like not even close bud.

Obama is a sellout, do not be mistaken. He isn't out to represent the interest of the American people, he is just one more backstabbing whore who does not care if families all over America suffer as long as his corp interests are content.

Having said that I do think the alternative would've been worse but that does not change the fact that we're getting butt raped in plane daylight. If you have any questions regarding this, well simply refer to healthcare reform; no excuses, no bs.

and ftr if you don't absolutely agree with the above comments you are a less informed ignorant moron ( badass, saves me from insulting people in the future *self high five* ).

edit: Makes me wonder about what Hilary could've been, perhaps I was too naive about the entire situation and the machine destroyed her or perhaps she is just one more, still we are in need of solutions and the only thing that looks right is Alan Grayson.

im stupid 'cause you say so? sweet.
are you even voting age? do you even have a job, or any resposibility in reality at all? if no, then shut up. go masterbate on your conspiracy websites and get on with your day. if your so god damn enlightened why are you wasting your time and talents argueing with fucking 15 year olds? get out there and make a difference. Oh no, wait, you cant change anything cause its all a conspiracy with underground governments and new world orders and all kinds of other bullshit. You cant do anything but sit there with your bag of dorritos and bitch about things you cant change and make excuses why you don’t bother to try...


lol@ john_does vid
"fuck that, im not gonna close my eyes!"
But you cant tell cause I wear sunglasses indoors…


America is as much a hell on earth as haiti is a paradise. Dicks like that need to be beaten. He should move to china and make the same exact video about the chinese government and see just how long he still has his fucking head.

[John_Doe]

im stupid 'cause you say so? sweet.
are you even voting age? do you even have a job, or any resposibility in reality at all? if no, then shut up. go masterbate on your conspiracy websites and get on with your day. if your so god damn enlightened why are you wasting your time and talents argueing with fucking 15 year olds? get out there and make a difference. Oh no, wait, you cant change anything cause its all a conspiracy with underground governments and new world orders and all kinds of other bullshit. You cant do anything but sit there with your bag of dorritos and bitch about things you cant change and make excuses why you don’t bother to try...


lol@ john_does vid
"fuck that, im not gonna close my eyes!"
But you cant tell cause I wear sunglasses indoors…


America is as much a hell on earth as haiti is a paradise. Dicks like that need to be beaten. He should move to china and make the same exact video about the chinese government and see just how long he still has his fucking head.

Sounds like you've got some sand in your vagina...