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woutR wrote:
Doppleganger wrote: and our progress as a damn species.



Well if you believe in the evolution theory, religion may have helped a lot in our progress as a species. Birth rates are always higher amongst religious people. More breeding, more evolution, better species!
PRAISE BE TO THE LORD!

Note that there are more deaths because of religion too. Religious warfare and all of that. We would progress more if people didn't kill each other over religious principles.
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I think that was the same guy that said that global warming is a big sham to fuck over the US and bring them down to the other countries playing fields.
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Dystopia wrote:I think that was the same guy that said that global warming is a big sham to fuck over the US and bring them down to the other countries playing fields.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was.
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That lightweight made sense to me lol.

Bringing it down to come up better than before? Sure some people died but in the long run it could be very prosperous.
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That reporter should retire now...

EvGa wrote:US accused of 'occupying' Haiti as troops flood in

France accused the US of "occupying" Haiti on Monday as thousands of American troops flooded into the country to take charge of aid efforts and security.

Sigh...

what a fckin joke. If the US doesn't immediately help a country in trouble, we are being selfish. if the US does try to help, we are imperialists. :banghead:
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I would like to post something written by a man who i have great respect for. he, i believe, gives the closest thing to a biblical perspective concerning this issue.



Haiti Earthquake
Commentary for January 14, 2010 — Thousands Dead in an Instant
I do not usually comment on recent news events but the earthquake in Haiti must be an
exception. The devastating earthquake that hit the 1/2 island nation of Haiti in the Caribbean1
may have killed up to 200,000 people. This was the estimate by the Prime Minister of Haiti in
a CNN interview.
The 7.0 magnitude earthquake hit the most densely populated section of the island, and the
poorest part of the country, with many buildings in the capital city of Port-au-Prince collapsing
because few were constructed to withstand such violent movement of the land.
The earthquake hit about an hour before dusk. This hampered rescue efforts. Transport of
electricity, water, and food into the devastated area have been suspended. The nations of the
world are rushing aid and rescue teams to the area. There is a real possibility of famine,
plague and riots breaking out unless careful and quick help is given.
Why do such things happen? Why does God
allow, or cause, such devastation to snuff out
100,000 or even more instantly? Certainly one
death is a tragedy if it is unexpected, but
200,000? How can one comprehend the scope
of such death, injury, and destruction?
God Is Responsible
I have written previously on such topics. If
God is not responsible, then who is? Does God
cause such destruction or does He let such
things happen? The Middle East has a long
history of earthquakes in ancient times, as Dr.
Martin wrote in his March 2001 Commentary
“Earthquake” where he gives a list of tsunamis
that resulted from major earthquakes
impacting the coast of Israel.
Fortunately the nature of this Haiti earthquake
did not cause a tsunami, although the impact of the quake was severe because it originated
near the surface 10 miles from Port-au-Prince.
This Haiti earthquake could be a major disaster with great loss of life. Similar events occurred
in the 2004 8.5 magnitude earthquake and tsunami in Sumatra where 225,000 were killed, in
October 2005 the Kashmir earthquake killed an estimated 86,000, and in 2008 a 7.9
earthquake in China killed 87,000.2 These deaths and injuries occurred in just moments from
the large tremors.

Haiti
Even before this disaster Haiti was close to being a “failed state,”3 which is a nation that
ceases to provide security and services to its people. Riots occurred often, and now that
conditions are made even worse by the earthquake, riots could return.
The danger is that when the United States and United Nations troops are brought in to
establish order so that relief supplies and food can be brought in and distributed, rampaging
mobs could surge through Port-au-Prince and even attack those who are bringing relief. It has
happened before.
In fact, there is a potential for still further disaster. In spite of relief efforts it is possible for
famine and pestilence to follow such a catastrophic event due to horrible conditions of water
and sanitation. Many more deaths could follow as the world watches. These potential problems
occur with every major earthquake. Some devastated areas take a decade or more to recover,
and even then the emotional shocks to people linger for years.

Was the Haiti Earthquake a Punishment?
Yes, earthquakes can be caused by God’s anger and action as King David says: “Then the
earth shook and trembled; the foundations also of the hills moved and were shaken, [why?]
because he [YHWH] was wroth” (Psalm 18:7).
“Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove [quake] out of her
place, in the wrath of YHWH of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger.”
• Isaiah 13:13
“The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his
presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein. Who can stand before his
indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured
out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him.”
• Nahum 1:5–6


God’s anger in Scripture regarding earthquakes generally applies only to the people of Israel.
Otherwise, it cannot be said whether a particular earthquake is a punishment from God or not.
There is no scriptural way to determine that to be the case.

Earthquakes in Scripture
Scripture mentions earthquakes both past and future. Sometimes earthquakes are
demonstrations of God’s power as Psalm 68:8 says happened at Mt. Sinai. Earthquakes
occurred at Jesus’ crucifixion (Matthew 27:51, 54) and at his resurrection (Matthew 28:2). An
earthquake caused the prison doors to open in Philippi for the apostle Paul and Silas, his
colleague (Acts 16:26).
Earthquakes to happen in the future will occur in diverse places (meaning varied places)
mentioned in Matthew 24:7–8, Luke 21:11. These may not be punishments exactly, but they
will be the beginning of sorrows, or birth pangs as some translations render the verse. I
personally believe this means that many earthquakes will happen all around the world in a
short period of time. In the future this will culminate in the largest earthquake ever in history:
“And lightnings and voices and thunders occurred. And a great earthquake
occurred, such as did not occur since mankind came to be on the earth; of such
proportions was the quake and so great.”
• Revelation 16:18
Concordant Version
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it is my hope, in posting this, to counter the idiocy spewwing out of the mouths of people like mr robertson and many other mislead and misleading preachers.
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Doppleganger wrote:Religious fundamentalism is phuckin up our education, science, and our progress as a damn species.



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There was another earthquake today in Haiti. It was a 6.1, idk how such a poor country will ever come back from such a huge disaster as this.

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Ganja wrote:There was another earthquake today in Haiti. It was a 6.1, idk how such a poor country will ever come back from such a huge disaster as this.

humanity will prevail over adversity, just how it is.
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and the after shocks begin. hopefully there arent any more.
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This is why Canada seems better and better (seletive service :banghead: )...such irony that a country founded on secular beliefs has become one of the most religious country yet.
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John_Doe wrote:This is why Canada seems better and better (seletive service :banghead: )...such irony that a country founded on secular beliefs has become one of the most religious country yet.

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Come on were being beat by Japan, I mean wierd shit come from Japan, j/k :love: Japan.
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EvGa wrote:Image
America, I am disapoint.

Damn man, I knew we had a lot of religious people but I didn't think we were that bad.
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I suppose it's everyone else's responsibility to clean up other countries' messes these days.

Don't try to be self sufficient, the grand ol' USA will come to your busted ass house and feed you for free, clothe your children, and protect your belongings for you. Never mind the implications of these apparent good deeds, just pretend all this aid is something you should expect and even demand as soon as your country faces a crisis. Feel free to raid our relief efforts and ignore your own problems, you guys are the victims here!

It's funny because I don't remember anyone but ourselves showing up when the Gulf of Mexico got annihilated by Hurricane Katrina.
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Reise wrote:I suppose it's everyone else's responsibility to clean up other countries' messes these days.

Don't try to be self sufficient, the grand ol' USA will come to your busted ass house and feed you for free, clothe your children, and protect your belongings for you. Never mind the implications of these apparent good deeds, just pretend all this aid is something you should expect and even demand as soon as your country faces a crisis. Feel free to raid our relief efforts and ignore your own problems, you guys are the victims here!

It's funny because I don't remember anyone but ourselves showing up when the Gulf of Mexico got annihilated by Hurricane Katrina.

We're the bad guys, we owe it to the world.

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Reise wrote:It's funny because I don't remember anyone but ourselves showing up when the Gulf of Mexico got annihilated by Hurricane Katrina.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internatio ... ne_Katrina


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Doppleganger wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_response_to_Hurricane_Katrina


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I see a lot of "offers" and mild donations.
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Reise wrote:I suppose it's everyone else's responsibility to clean up other countries' messes these days.

Don't try to be self sufficient, the grand ol' USA will come to your busted ass house and feed you for free, clothe your children, and protect your belongings for you. Never mind the implications of these apparent good deeds, just pretend all this aid is something you should expect and even demand as soon as your country faces a crisis. Feel free to raid our relief efforts and ignore your own problems, you guys are the victims here!

It's funny because I don't remember anyone but ourselves showing up when the Gulf of Mexico got annihilated by Hurricane Katrina.

but but...we are ze imperialists! :shock:
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Um, umm, uh uh uh, umm umm. How do these people get on TV. Public speaking lessons, much?

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Oh and: AMERICA, PHUCK YEAH!
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Reise wrote:
Doppleganger wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_response_to_Hurricane_Katrina


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I see a lot of "offers" and mild donations.


No, there was a lot of aid from many of the large European countries, mainly France, Germany, UK.

But yes Reise, I agree with you. It's just plain stupid that if we don't immediately offer help after a crises, we're being terrible, selfish bastards, but if the U.S. does help a country, we are accused of occupying it while we give away millions of dollars of aid and supplies.

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2012 is beginning!!! Repent...

-Earthquake in Haiti
-Volcano in the Philippines

The end is coming!

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John_Doe wrote:This is why Canada seems better and better (seletive service :banghead: )...such irony that a country founded on secular beliefs has become one of the most religious country yet.

You were educated in the US. I can tell. It depends a bit on who you accept as having founded America. The french spanish and english were all here at the same time but anyhow. The Pilgrims were not all that secular. In fact they were whackjob insane religious. Fleeing their countries of origin largely due to persecution for their extreme religious beliefs. True the rest were opportunists or criminals and varying degrees of religiousness. However best I can remember is that every single one of our founding fathers ascribed to one religion or another even if it was not christianity as we recognize it. http://www.adherents.com/gov/Founding_Fathers_Religion.html Lets just be clear here. When America started the rest of the world unloaded their religious nutters on us. What we have today is the result. The americas surged ahead due to new resources and opportunity. But that surge is wearing off and now the shackles of religion are beginning to drag us down. Meanwhile most of the rest of the world sans nutters is still growing and slowly prospering outside these largely repressive religious forces.

The founding fathers really did aim for a more secular government to stay out of everyones religion. So anyone that claims the US was founded as a christian nation is yet another nutter. But despite best intentions. Living in a mad house you eventually go mad like all the rest.
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But my dollar bill says In GOD we trust!!!!11!

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He ran for president also, for the republican party :)
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