Discussion on the validity of New GMs. From Krush's post.

[SnowShael]

SRF user comes back after getting banned
bot comes back after getting banned
all share a common thing, what else could be worst?

AIDS, Amputation, Death, War, Infections, Star Wars episode 7, Clowns, Space Invasion, Black Holes, Car Crash, MCI, House burn down, Hurricanes, Tornadoes, Lightning strike, Coma, Limbo, Hell, Internet Crash, Wikipedia dies, Hopelessness, Tsunami, Earthquake, 2012, Zombie Invasion, Robot Nazi Zombies, Nazism, Terrorism, Atomic Bomb, Radiation Poisoning, Acid burns, Drug abuse, "Stupid people; mean people; boring people; sadistic people; overly good looking people; overly smelly people; MTV; liver; liver and onions; my mother's hamburgers; being married to somebody you're not in love with those yellow signs in car windows that say Baby On Board; those Garfield things stuck on car windows: people that wear sunglasses with those little strings around their necks; Nazis; yuppies; vegetarians; liberals; feminists; Scientologists; New Agers; brat packers: illegal ...

For elvis it's just your own opninion,for me,that he died isn't that bad,i can tell also that on some of your things can happend something nicer just after,so at the end it's isn't worst than botting.ah and vegetarians are worst than botting?
I like MTV,without atomic bomb you will talk germain...
Ah and about "Negro",what you said is a bit racist.

Read a history book.

[Crowley]

Ok guys, you can all stop blaming the turks for being rude, insult and scamming people and destroy the game with bots, coz the one you should blame is their parents for not well teaching them morally... or blame God for letting such people exist...

*Grabs popcorn*

This is gonna get REAL interesting.

[SnowShael]

Ok guys, you can all stop blaming the turks for being rude, insult and scamming people and destroy the game with bots, coz the one you should blame is their parents for not well teaching them morally... or blame God for letting such people exist...

*Grabs popcorn*

This is gonna get REAL interesting.

Kill me, I recognized the girl in your Avatar... (Watched Twilight with Gf for first and second one, and sort of liked it >.>)

[BuDo]

Ok guys, you can all stop blaming the turks for being rude, insult and scamming people and destroy the game with bots, coz the one you should blame is their parents for not well teaching them morally... or blame God for letting such people exist...

Again..if Turkish players are being verbally rude to you and you didn't add any of them to your block list then its your fault for continually getting disrespected by them...if they scam you and you keep getting scammed because you haven't decided to stop trading with them then its your fault.

People are responsible for their actions..but if you sit there and not take any measures to guard against what some of these people will inevitable do to you then you deserve to get whatever they do to you.

There was an old saying that I came across in a book. It talks about how some people are. If they were shot with an arrow that is slowly killing them.......instead of taking the arrow out and tending to the wound they first want to know who shot them...from what angle...was it a cross bow or long bow...how far away was the shooter...All these are trivial and retarded concerns...That saying reminds me of you Silo.

You're a real dummy...you see the fire and stick your hand in it and then cry that the fire burnt you. Blaming the fire for burning you because its hot. LOL. This is essentially what you've be pointing out in this thread

If you have the power to prevent a situation but didn't then don't blame no one but yourself. I wont blame God for the existence of Turks. I'll blame you for letting them get under your skin when you yourself know that it doesn't have to be that way

[chickenfeather]

Kill me, I recognized the girl in your Avatar... (Watched Twilight with Gf for first and second one, and sort of liked it >.>)

I wouldn't worry too much about it, Ashley Green is gorgeous

[Crowley]

*Grabs popcorn*

This is gonna get REAL interesting.

Kill me, I recognized the girl in your Avatar... (Watched Twilight with Gf for first and second one, and sort of liked it >.>)

Don't worry, I liked Twilight too. You're not alone out there.

[Snazzi]

Ok guys, you can all stop blaming the turks for being rude, insult and scamming people and destroy the game with bots, coz the one you should blame is their parents for not well teaching them morally... or blame God for letting such people exist...

*Grabs popcorn*

This is gonna get REAL interesting.

lol'd xD

[NuclearSilo]

Ok guys, you can all stop blaming the turks for being rude, insult and scamming people and destroy the game with bots, coz the one you should blame is their parents for not well teaching them morally... or blame God for letting such people exist...

Again..if Turkish players are being verbally rude to you and you didn't add any of them to your block list then its your fault for continually getting disrespected by them...if they scam you and you keep getting scammed because you haven't decided to stop trading with them then its your fault.

People are responsible for their actions..but if you sit there and not take any measures to guard against what some of these people will inevitable do to you then you deserve to get whatever they do to you.

There was an old saying that I came across in a book. It talks about how some people are. If they were shot with an arrow that is slowly killing them.......instead of taking the arrow out and tending to the wound they first want to know who shot them...from what angle...was it a cross bow or long bow...how far away was the shooter...All these are trivial and retarded concerns...That saying reminds me of you Silo.

You're a real dummy...you see the fire and stick your hand in it and then cry that the fire burnt you. Blaming the fire for burning you because its hot. LOL. This is essentially what you've be pointing out in this thread

If you have the power to prevent a situation but didn't then don't blame no one but yourself. I wont blame God for the existence of Turks. I'll blame you for letting them get under your skin when you yourself know that it doesn't have to be that way

Last time I check you have a limitation in chat blocking, or it's not possible to know if someone is turk or not by just looking at the name.

Maybe someone needs to stab you from behind to let you understand that you can't always have your guard up in life.

[PR0METHEUS]

Last time I check you have a limitation in chat blocking, or it's not possible to know if someone is turk or not by just looking at the name.

Maybe someone needs to stab you from behind to let you understand that you can't always have your guard up in life.

Of course you can't always have your guard up in life, but you can do your best to have it up at all times to the fullest extent that you are capable. You don't have to stick your hand in a fire to find out if it is hot, but if the chair you're sitting in suddenly bursts into flames, you'll find out pretty quickly that it is hot. Instead of staying in the chair and crying that the fire won't go away, you fix the problem by getting up and putting it out, or having someone else put it out.

You don't have to /ban EvilTurkPlayer in order to solve the problem of EvilTurkPlayer insulting you in the game. You can just... here's a novel idea... ignore said person. There's no limitation on the number of people you can simply ignore. Are there 50 of them following you around insulting you? Use party/guild/union chat.

Scamming... well, just be smart enough to identify a potential scam and not fall for it. Responsibility lies in both parties, not always 50/50.

Granted not all Turkish players are bad. I've met plenty that are not. It's not the nationality, it's the maturity of the person. They're kids, not Turks.

[hapnz]

a while ago on olympus:



LOL

[BuDo]

Ok guys, you can all stop blaming the turks for being rude, insult and scamming people and destroy the game with bots, coz the one you should blame is their parents for not well teaching them morally... or blame God for letting such people exist...

Again..if Turkish players are being verbally rude to you and you didn't add any of them to your block list then its your fault for continually getting disrespected by them...if they scam you and you keep getting scammed because you haven't decided to stop trading with them then its your fault.

People are responsible for their actions..but if you sit there and not take any measures to guard against what some of these people will inevitable do to you then you deserve to get whatever they do to you.

There was an old saying that I came across in a book. It talks about how some people are. If they were shot with an arrow that is slowly killing them.......instead of taking the arrow out and tending to the wound they first want to know who shot them...from what angle...was it a cross bow or long bow...how far away was the shooter...All these are trivial and retarded concerns...That saying reminds me of you Silo.

You're a real dummy...you see the fire and stick your hand in it and then cry that the fire burnt you. Blaming the fire for burning you because its hot. LOL. This is essentially what you've be pointing out in this thread

If you have the power to prevent a situation but didn't then don't blame no one but yourself. I wont blame God for the existence of Turks. I'll blame you for letting them get under your skin when you yourself know that it doesn't have to be that way

Last time I check you have a limitation in chat blocking, or it's not possible to know if someone is turk or not by just looking at the name.

Maybe someone needs to stab you from behind to let you understand that you can't always have your guard up in life.

/facepalm....you're one of kind. I've repeatedly stated that not doing something about a problem when you yourself fully know you can but didn't makes whatever happen to you your fault. I never said anything about not being able to do something about the problem. Other people see what I'm saying but your skull seems to be made of iron.

[curvekiller]

a while ago on olympus:



LOL

Lol.
Did he actually clean anything?

[CeLL]

@goseki - I don’t see the point. We ALL know whats going on. Not one person here doesn’t. You will never ever draw out the response that you are trying to get. Though I do applaud your efforts.

@silo - your whole "JM lets the community make the game what it is." is a total cop-out. You don’t build a restaurant and then tell everyone they are responsible for making their own food. JM shows great weakness by allowing themselves to be bent over like they do then say its not my fault my b-hole is exposed, its their fault for penatrating it. The only reason they are willing to grab their ankles is for money. They are weak and have no honor. And because of it, theyre players are the same. For advocating their bullshit cop-out excuses you just as weak and dishonorable.

[BuDo]

@goseki - I don’t see the point. We ALL know whats going on. Not one person here doesn’t. You will never ever draw out the response that you are trying to get. Though I do applaud your efforts.

@silo - your whole "JM lets the community make the game what it is." is a total cop-out. You don’t build a restaurant and then tell everyone they are responsible for making their own food. JM shows great weakness by allowing themselves to be bent over like they do then say its not my fault my b-hole is exposed, its their fault for penatrating it. The only reason they are willing to grab their ankles is for money. They are weak and have no honor. And because of it, theyre players are the same. For advocating their bullshit cop-out excuses you just as weak and dishonorable.

This is what I've been trying to show Mr cast iron skull..aka Silo. He's got a million defensive buffs orbiting his skull designed to keep common sense out. It seems hopeless.


Joymax willingness to do NOTHING is the reason why so many bots are in the game. Thus they are 90% responsible for its demise

[Goseki]

@goseki - I don’t see the point. We ALL know whats going on. Not one person here doesn’t. You will never ever draw out the response that you are trying to get. Though I do applaud your efforts.

@silo - your whole "JM lets the community make the game what it is." is a total cop-out. You don’t build a restaurant and then tell everyone they are responsible for making their own food. JM shows great weakness by allowing themselves to be bent over like they do then say its not my fault my b-hole is exposed, its their fault for penatrating it. The only reason they are willing to grab their ankles is for money. They are weak and have no honor. And because of it, theyre players are the same. For advocating their bullshit cop-out excuses you just as weak and dishonorable.

I lol'd. I made this topic since although we already knew what was going on, the new GM's action seem to be the bright neon sign that some die-hards were waiting to see. Although I'm sure some will wear shades and pretend all is still good.

[CeLL]

@goseki - I don’t see the point. We ALL know whats going on. Not one person here doesn’t. You will never ever draw out the response that you are trying to get. Though I do applaud your efforts.

@silo - your whole "JM lets the community make the game what it is." is a total cop-out. You don’t build a restaurant and then tell everyone they are responsible for making their own food. JM shows great weakness by allowing themselves to be bent over like they do then say its not my fault my b-hole is exposed, its their fault for penatrating it. The only reason they are willing to grab their ankles is for money. They are weak and have no honor. And because of it, theyre players are the same. For advocating their bullshit cop-out excuses you just as weak and dishonorable.

I lol'd. I made this topic since although we already knew what was going on, the new GM's action seem to be the bright neon sign that some die-hards were waiting to see. Although I'm sure ALL will wear shades and pretend all is still good.

fixed.

[NuclearSilo]

@goseki - I don’t see the point. We ALL know whats going on. Not one person here doesn’t. You will never ever draw out the response that you are trying to get. Though I do applaud your efforts.

@silo - your whole "JM lets the community make the game what it is." is a total cop-out. You don’t build a restaurant and then tell everyone they are responsible for making their own food. JM shows great weakness by allowing themselves to be bent over like they do then say its not my fault my b-hole is exposed, its their fault for penatrating it. The only reason they are willing to grab their ankles is for money. They are weak and have no honor. And because of it, theyre players are the same. For advocating their bullshit cop-out excuses you just as weak and dishonorable.

Nope. But if all throw food and garbage to the ground, that's a different story. Of course it's the restaurant workers who clean but the clients will be treat as asshole

[Nick Invaders]

a while ago on olympus:



LOL

Lol.
Did he actually clean anything?

[BuDo]

@goseki - I don’t see the point. We ALL know whats going on. Not one person here doesn’t. You will never ever draw out the response that you are trying to get. Though I do applaud your efforts.

@silo - your whole "JM lets the community make the game what it is." is a total cop-out. You don’t build a restaurant and then tell everyone they are responsible for making their own food. JM shows great weakness by allowing themselves to be bent over like they do then say its not my fault my b-hole is exposed, its their fault for penatrating it. The only reason they are willing to grab their ankles is for money. They are weak and have no honor. And because of it, theyre players are the same. For advocating their bullshit cop-out excuses you just as weak and dishonorable.

Nope. But if all throw food and garbage to the ground, that's a different story. Of course it's the restaurant workers who clean but the clients will be treat as asshole

Ya dummy.. the majority of clients/players are throwing food on the ground (Aka botting). And there is no workers (Aka Joymax) cleaning it up. And guess what....these clients aren't being treated as assholes. Instead they're having lots of fun getting away with it.

[NuclearSilo]

There's a difference between don't clean the restaurant at all and clean the restaurant but the garbages are overwhelming so it can't be done in one day

[Goseki]

There's a difference between don't clean the restaurant at all and clean the restaurant but the garbages are overwhelming so it can't be done in one day

There's also a difference between don't clean the restaurant at all, trying to clean but the trash is so overwhelming, and only doing a half-ass cleaning attempt once a year when the inspector comes. (GNGWC in case some ppl are too stupid to realize the trend).

[BuDo]

There's a difference between don't clean the restaurant at all and clean the restaurant but the garbages are overwhelming so it can't be done in one day

Does cleaning up the garbage for two weeks out of the entire year (GNGWC time) makes joymax a good house keeper? For 50 weeks out of a year they're not cleaning up the game and when they do for that 2 weeks its only a few gold botters.

And don't act like joymax is overwhelm and can't do anything about it. You go and do a charge back and see what joymax does to you...administrative work in an instant in the form of a ban.

To prove my point one last time...if you were to conduct a survey on why the people who used to play this game quit.....you would get an overwhelming vote for Joymax being the reason for not properly managing the game.

Nearly all of them would say botters overwhelm the game and Joymax isn't doing anything about it so they quit. Its the same reason why even you would not return to a restaurant where the customers are making a huge mess and the owner only cleans up once in a blue moon.

You would tell yourself its not your responsibility nor the responsibility of the other customers to clean up the mess. You say its the owners job to keep his business clean. Or at the very least its the owners responsibility to block certain individuals from entering his restaurant. Even if the owner was truly overwhelmed with cleaning up and can't keep up you'd still not return to such a filthy place.

You're hopeless Silo. Too dense. And the most gullible moronic person on web I've ever had to deal with.I'm done with you.

[MrSonic]

There's a difference between don't clean the restaurant at all and clean the restaurant but the garbages are overwhelming so it can't be done in one day

Will you be bothered to play the damn game before making assumptions like this? It has been proven months ago that Joymax's so called bot ban-lists are a scam, there was a whole topic about it on these forums.
Before the release of a ban-list, JM creates a whole bunch of Lv 1 European chars with names such as "jgsdsvsd" and stations them around Constantinople, then, come inspection time, they ban all of these Lv 1 characters, along with throwing a few gold spammers in the mix to keep idiots like you happy.

Basically, 99% of the accounts being banned are nothing more then throwaway accounts made by JM themselves that stand still in Const. and don't impact our gameplay in any way. The gold bots on the other hand that are grinding for cash and ksing legits are left alone week after week, Joymax might as well be making no bot bans at all.

[hapnz]

a while ago on olympus:



LOL

Lol.
Did he actually clean anything?

No.

[SnowShael]

On another notice: I visited "karkarome", the ice today on my level 94.

I logged out after logging in for 3 hours within 10 minutes.

[Jilbab]

There's a new GM on neptune... he doesn't seem to do much though :s

[NuclearSilo]

There's a difference between don't clean the restaurant at all and clean the restaurant but the garbages are overwhelming so it can't be done in one day

There's also a difference between don't clean the restaurant at all, trying to clean but the trash is so overwhelming, and only doing a half-ass cleaning attempt once a year when the inspector comes. (GNGWC in case some ppl are too stupid to realize the trend).

I don't think they only clean once a year. The problem is the garbage keep coming daily after thrown into trash bin. It's not like it's a constant that decreases over time

[PR0METHEUS]

There's a difference between don't clean the restaurant at all and clean the restaurant but the garbages are overwhelming so it can't be done in one day

I'm starting to agree that you do have a cast iron skull...

Perhaps for the past 3 years or so Joymax has been trying to clean their servers. However, they haven't been trying very hard.

It would be similar to an overly crowded restaurant where all of the patrons are throwing the cooked food to the foor, on the walls, counters, at each other. Instead of the restaurant management kicking everyone out and locking the doors up tight, with bouncers to only allow "good" people in, they have a young bus boy wandering around the restaurant... often times outside the restaurant, or sleeping in the corner... mumbling something about "please stop throwing our food... come on guys..." while slowly cleaning up little bits of food here and there.

In the past 3 or so years, how much effort would it take for Joymax to put one GM in each server, say in Hotan, and pick off each and every gold bot that follow each other around, in single file, in the exact same route... ban, ban, ban...? They haven't been trying.

Perhaps this recent GM activity is genuinely them actually trying. It's certainly a step in the right direction, but it should have happened a long time ago. The iSRO community does have some fault for letting it get this way, but Joymax is ultimately responsible for most of it as they have the power to prevent (most of) it.

[Squirt]

a while ago on olympus:



LOL

Lol.
Did he actually clean anything?

Geez guys give the GM's a break...
Atleast they LOG INTO THE GAME NOW.
Rome wasn't built in a day you know...

[majincooler]

Question1: What kind of job were the [GM]'s assigned to?

Answer: The [GM]'s jobs assigned by Joymax was to log on the servers and make you buy more Silk for globals and your "beautiful Silkroad pets".

Question2: Have the [GM]'s accomplished their task?

Answer: Yes, they did. Everytime the GM wrote a sentence 1000's of globals were bought to offend/spam him and pets were bought to take picture with those "holy creatures".

Question3: So what are they going to do now? Clean the bots?

Answer: No. They finished their job and sucked your $$, now its time to leave and act as if there were no GMs.

Suck it up, instead of wasting only $ on the game, you are wasting both $ and time. Whatever you do Joymax is the biggest winner and you are the sore loser. You cannot do anything to change it and Joymax owns you all day long, while you are just a miserable kid who can do nothing but complain that you can't play the game the way you want to.

The more I read the topics, the more I laugh, you guys are seriously funny.