Hackers Expose Top research scientist's manipulation of data for *A global warming*, Computer hackers have broken into a server at a well-respected climate change research center in Britain and posted hundreds of private e-mails and documents online — stoking debate over whether some scientists have overstated the case for man-made climate change.
*Read more in the news links above or from the leaked files hosted below Enjoy The emails alone can be viewed online from here http://www.eastangliaemails.com/index.php
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global warming is happening maybe not as fast or slow as people originally thought but its happening to say its not is pure stupidity. this is just one of the many consiracy theorys floating around on the internet
Dude this is not a Theory, i myself looked at the data last week and didnt post it any were untill i saw sources being confirmed in the past few days, when i saw the bbc, abc, Associated press, New zealand herald etc etc etc start to confirm it than i felt it was safe to post to other forums,
if you want to disprove this than feel free buddy, i can assure you Al gore also has his best and brightest working around the clock to do the same,
but to call it a theory, well i wont even waste my time with such a joke attempt of trying to disprove this.
Zen wrote:Dude this is not a Theory, i myself looked at the data last week and didnt post it any were untill i saw sources being confirmed in the past few days, when i saw the bbc, abc, Associated press, New zealand herald etc etc etc start to confirm it than i felt it was safe to post to other forums,
if you want to disprove this than feel free buddy, i can assure you Al gore also has his best and brightest working around the clock to do the same,
but to call it a theory, well i wont even waste my time with such a joke attempt of trying to disprove this.
in that case il just quote you, have fun, btw aliens took my baby and twin towers was destoryed by the US government
global warming is a fact it's already happened (/is happening) on venus and it is happening on earth right now the affect isn't that drastic but the thing is that it has a tipping point Also, lets say you're right, its all a hoax. So what? Oh no we're developing newer cleaner fuels and producing less pollution!!!QUICK SOMEONE TELL ME I CAN POLLUTE AGAIN. I hate people who say global warming is a scam when absolutely nothing bad is coming from it....
The cooling and warming of the earth is a natural trend. this planet has existed for a very long time. there are heating periods, cooling periods and climate shifts where the equator essensially moves, moving the climate zones with it. such is evident in the plush babylonian reign, which is now quite clearly a big fat dust bowl. our planet has, and continues to take good care of itself. so basically there is gloabl warming, but theres also cooling and its all natural.
Bread_Fish wrote:global warming is a fact it's already happened (/is happening) on venus and it is happening on earth right now the affect isn't that drastic but the thing is that it has a tipping point Also, lets say you're right, its all a hoax. So what? Oh no we're developing newer cleaner fuels and producing less pollution!!!QUICK SOMEONE TELL ME I CAN POLLUTE AGAIN. I hate people who say global warming is a scam when absolutely nothing bad is coming from it....
yeah your right, no one could become money hungry and or power driven while exploiting simple minds. never happened before, nor could it ever.
Bread_Fish wrote:global warming is a fact it's already happened (/is happening) on venus and it is happening on earth right now the affect isn't that drastic but the thing is that it has a tipping point Also, lets say you're right, its all a hoax. So what? Oh no we're developing newer cleaner fuels and producing less pollution!!!QUICK SOMEONE TELL ME I CAN POLLUTE AGAIN. I hate people who say global warming is a scam when absolutely nothing bad is coming from it....
Bread fish its impossible for humans to cause warming on another planet, Venus is alot closer to the sun than earth is so you dont think its the sun thats warming venus? i can give you one example out of a million what is bad about the global warming scam, you will find it quite funny i assure you http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/se ... idfickling its utterly pathetic, and that is only one example
Bread_Fish wrote:global warming is a fact it's already happened (/is happening) on venus and it is happening on earth right now the affect isn't that drastic but the thing is that it has a tipping point Also, lets say you're right, its all a hoax. So what? Oh no we're developing newer cleaner fuels and producing less pollution!!!QUICK SOMEONE TELL ME I CAN POLLUTE AGAIN. I hate people who say global warming is a scam when absolutely nothing bad is coming from it....
Bread fish its impossible for humans to cause warming on another planet, Venus is alot closer to the sun than earth is so you dont think its the sun thats warming venus? i can give you one example out of a million what is bad about the global warming scam, you will find it quite funny i assure you http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/se ... idfickling its utterly pathetic, and that is only one example
ahh ffs you tard global warming can be done by humans it has happened before enter ice age! ice samples show that large amounts of Co2 can cause drastic climate change, we produce shit loads of Co2. Also its true to some degree climate change is natural but its not natural the way humans have spread and devoured resources without thinking of the long term effects, we are easily able of effecting the world 1 nuke can pollute the area for years and it spreads further then the area the nuke went off, chernobyl has effected england now look on a map at the distance that it has traveled.
your just a simple mind who picks up every conspiracy theory and thinks its real, not saying things in that report aint true but i am saying global warning is happening. might not be in our life time but its going to cause drastic changes forcing countrys to change england to become a cold icy country, new deserts, old deserts to become lush enviroments not all bad but better we try tackling it now every 1 person can make a difference
[SD]Master_Wong wrote:global warming can be done by humans it has happened before enter ice age!
No matter how much Nerd raging you do, Its not going to change the fact that the TOP global warming research institutes had there servers hacked and all the information pulled from them paints a very bad picture for the scientists involved, Read the Articles. The institutes Confirm there servers have been hacked, its not a theory ok?
This thread is not about Global warming causing a ice age, start your own topic if you want to discuss the science of carbon emissions heating the planet so much it freezes over, enjoy your nerd rage
...Global warming happens. MUCH slower than they actually say, but it still happens. However the current idea of global warming was a scam. A scam made by the media and important companies in order to obtain more MONEY. This is no reason to drop the research on cleaner fuels and stuff though. Just as long as it's not for money goals...
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[SD]Master_Wong wrote:global warming can be done by humans it has happened before enter ice age!
No matter how much Nerd raging you do, Its not going to change the fact that the TOP global warming research institutes had there servers hacked and all the information pulled from them paints a very bad picture for the scientists involved, Read the Articles. The institutes Confirm there servers have been hacked, its not a theory ok?
This thread is not about Global warming causing a ice age, start your own topic if you want to discuss the science of carbon emissions heating the planet so much it freezes over, enjoy your nerd rage
ok if you dont understand how global warning works why argue it at all?
secondly how can YOU prove that data isnt fake?
thirdly its a fact not a story you cant hack some server and disprove a fact, its fact, all your saying is its not happening as fast as first predicted we already know this its been said before.
so global warming aint real? well lets continue using coal and gasoline to pollute the air and water and cut down thousands of trees in the rain forests!
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Global Warming is a fact. Whether it is accelerated by us or not is under debate. So get some facts straight before saying "R.I.P. Global Warming". You'll look less of an idiot.
CeLL wrote: yeah your right, no one could become money hungry and or power driven while exploiting simple minds. never happened before, nor could it ever.
There will always be someone who will exploit for money. The motives are less important than the results. Just pick the lesser of the two evils: would you rather keep the current oil industry as the money-hungry/power-driven agent, or would you rather have the proponents of alternative energy source as the money-hungry/power-driven agent? The former keeps our reliance on the Middle East, and the air pollution that oil generates (not necessarily the warming). The latter removes this reliance, and perhaps shift it somewhere else, and might reduce air pollution.
Bread_Fish wrote:global warming is a fact it's already happened (/is happening) on venus and it is happening on earth right now the affect isn't that drastic but the thing is that it has a tipping point Also, lets say you're right, its all a hoax. So what? Oh no we're developing newer cleaner fuels and producing less pollution!!!QUICK SOMEONE TELL ME I CAN POLLUTE AGAIN. I hate people who say global warming is a scam when absolutely nothing bad is coming from it....
Bread fish its impossible for humans to cause warming on another planet, Venus is alot closer to the sun than earth is so you dont think its the sun thats warming venus? i can give you one example out of a million what is bad about the global warming scam, you will find it quite funny i assure you http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/se ... idfickling its utterly pathetic, and that is only one example
first about venus a few statistics... "The CO2-rich atmosphere, along with thick clouds of sulfur dioxide, generates the strongest greenhouse effect in the Solar System, creating surface temperatures of over 460 °C (860 °F)."
for a comparison how about mercury? you know? the closest plant to the sun? "Surface temperatures range from about 90 to 700 K (−183 °C to 427 °C, −297 °F to 801 °F)"
and about the fart tax...that was never put into practice but youre right about one thing i did get a laugh out of it
poehalcho wrote:...Global warming happens. MUCH slower than they actually say, but it still happens. However the current idea of global warming was a scam. A scam made by the media and important companies in order to obtain more MONEY. This is no reason to drop the research on cleaner fuels and stuff though. Just as long as it's not for money goals...
Hey you Nailed it bro, a independant thinker and you hit the nail on the head with the MOney, Ive never met one person who is anti global warming yet is Pro Pollution, We all want the Cleaner enviroment, some of us just dont want to be taxed to death while working toward that goal.
poehalcho wrote:...Global warming happens. MUCH slower than they actually say, but it still happens. However the current idea of global warming was a scam. A scam made by the media and important companies in order to obtain more MONEY. This is no reason to drop the research on cleaner fuels and stuff though. Just as long as it's not for money goals...
Hey you Nailed it bro, a independant thinker and you hit the nail on the head with the MOney, Ive never met one person who is anti global warming yet is Pro Pollution, We all want the Cleaner enviroment, some of us just dont want to be taxed to death while working toward that goal.
guessing you didnt read my posts then? iv already said its happening slower although the second part is just a bit stupid id rather companies and people aiming towards a cleaner enviroment based on a misconception then continuing down a road of pollution
Seriously! Scientists always seems to screw things up. You should know this already.. xD
poehalcho wrote:However the current idea of global warming was a scam. A scam made by the media and important companies in order to obtain more MONEY. This is no reason to drop the research on cleaner fuels and stuff though. Just as long as it's not for money goals...
lol 99% of the people who think global warming is real and we should all act on it are NOT acting on it themselves. so it was a hoax from the very start. global warming is gay, and people discussing global warming are even gayer. you can talk and crack your head open with theories, facts, and shit, but in the end, nothing is going to change. and +1 to poehalcho.
The message behind global warming, as in the need to be responsible of our pollution and wastes that we bestow on Earth, is far more important than the reliability of the occurrence's factual evidence.
evilpeta wrote:lol 99% of the people who think global warming is real and we should all act on it are NOT acting on it themselves. so it was a hoax from the very start. global warming is gay, and people discussing global warming are even gayer. you can talk and crack your head open with theories, facts, and shit, but in the end, nothing is going to change. and +1 to poehalcho.
that is very likely the most concentrated dose of stupid i ever forced myself to intake...
CeLL wrote: yeah your right, no one could become money hungry and or power driven while exploiting simple minds. never happened before, nor could it ever.
There will always be someone who will exploit for money. The motives are less important than the results. Just pick the lesser of the two evils: would you rather keep the current oil industry as the money-hungry/power-driven agent, or would you rather have the proponents of alternative energy source as the money-hungry/power-driven agent? The former keeps our reliance on the Middle East, and the air pollution that oil generates (not necessarily the warming). The latter removes this reliance, and perhaps shift it somewhere else, and might reduce air pollution.
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evilpeta wrote:lol 99% of the people who think global warming is real and we should all act on it are NOT acting on it themselves. so it was a hoax from the very start. global warming is gay, and people discussing global warming are even gayer. you can talk and crack your head open with theories, facts, and shit, but in the end, nothing is going to change. and +1 to poehalcho.
You are discussing about global warming, so you just called yourself gay?
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salmissra wrote:The message behind global warming, as in the need to be responsible of our pollution and wastes that we bestow on Earth, is far more important than the reliability of the occurrence's factual evidence.
lemme ask you a question. Where exactly do we get the pollutants from in order to "bestow" it upon the Earth?
people who don't believe in global warming are just ignorant beyond belief. Global warming is real and even if there really are scientists trying to get grant money from faking global warming, investing into alternative energy technology is the next wave of innovation thats coming. Whichever country is able to commercialize alternative energy will be the world leader for the next century.
Americans, do you want to be paying chinese people for wind farms and photovoltaic grids? You'll be supporting chinese jobs and chinese GDP.
Anyways, the sooner we get something done the sooner we can forget about the middle east. God, they are such a headache.
But seriously comspiracy theorists need to find a better source of entertainment. America's land on the moon was fake (and they even faked it FIVE more times), WTC was blown up by george bush, there's an alien spacecraft in area 51, AIDS was released by white scientists in order to kill blacks, and there is a new world order that is secretly controlling the world.
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devin wrote:omg. global warming was made up. dont buy into it.
Fail. Nice try at being different.
Anyone who makes that claim is ignorant, and never taken seriously by anyone. The debate is not on whether or not the planet is warming, it is: it's quantitative, just fucking measure the annual temperatures. I'm sure that since they're going up, it literally means the planet is getting warmer. The debate is on whether or not the warming is caused by humans, antrophogenic global warming. That's why people say "it's the earth's natural warming/cooling cycle".
Even worse than you are idiots who claim global warming is made up, and that it's just the earth that's naturally warming up - GG fail @ argumentation.
dom wrote: I used to be ardent on my position that it is natural, but then I decided to get educated.
salmissra wrote:The message behind global warming, as in the need to be responsible of our pollution and wastes that we bestow on Earth, is far more important than the reliability of the occurrence's factual evidence.
Humanity needs no lame excuses to be lied to in order to look after the earth, we dont need to be brainwashed so one minoritory class of people can profit from carbon Fraud while the Majority of humanity wil be forced to lower there quality of life by trying to live within guidlines of a carbon credit system. Paying money to Al Gore will not lower Pollution end of story!
lemme ask you a question. Where exactly do we get the pollutants from in order to "bestow" it upon the Earth?
