Rogue/warlock vs. Warrior/cleric

[Devilman]

Which one would you prefer? Why?
I'm interested in other's opinions

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i'd give each 50/50 for winning :S
people say warrior/cleric has holy and healing, but well, with stun/sleeps you can wait out the skin/blesses. The healing you can use scorn on bad pvpers and get them to heal you.

other than that, if rogue just stun/sleep, they can hit hard enough and crit to win. but warrior can use same pattern to beat rogue as well, since it has fast stun/kb as well.

[Ningyotsukai-san]

Which one would you prefer? Why?
I'm interested in other's opinions

I'd take the Rogue / Warlock simply because I find warrior / cleric boring

There's no real rush in the sense of "kill or be killed" w/ the top pvp build ...

Rogue / Warlock takes more thought, however slightly, to kill your opponents (w/o using trap + sleep), especially those w/ a cleric sub...it's not a tank, so you gotta kill whoever you're fighting fast...which takes thought 'n some other variables ....

Warrior / cleric needs good weapon switching ...'n at least decent gear (+5 or higher)

[Fimero]

rogue/lock over kill especially against non clerics
warrior/cleric everyone knows about them even if they dont play sr
i would go rogue/lock just because warlock is underrated and underused same as rogue

[karimgh]

Well no I would take 100% Rogue lock For the following techique:
1-Stealth and hit him from the back with a stun.
2-Change to rod then daze,burn,dull, sleep......
3-Change to rogue and finish him with combos....
4- Mostly no scratch on you

[hyma]

pvp? rogue/lock
pvp+everything (but uniques maybe ^^) war/cleric

even if being a war/cleric is boring sometimes i belive its more playable in different fields, which i find better.

[very intelligent]

probably warrior will win in this match-up, but chinese own them both.

[Puma60]

Rogue is so underrated. In 1 vs 1 Rogue/Warlock would make easy work of any build.

[very intelligent]

lol against clerics warlock is useless.

rog/cler vs war/cler would be more interesting, depends on how they play.

[Fimero]

lol against clerics warlock is useless.

rog/cler vs war/cler would be more interesting, depends on how they play.

the warrior would win
the rogue would have to get a crit or kd and then some crits to win
i hardly see any rogues beat warriors

[Puma60]

lol against clerics warlock is useless.

Don't underestimate a build that you dont have.

probably warrior will win in this match-up, but chinese own them both.

That couldn't be more untrue. A Rogue/Warlock is overkill on any chinese. A Rogue/Cleric can hit 46k crit on a Blader, now imagine the damage when the Blader is fully debuffed, the chinese would have no chance in hell of winning. Also everyone knows Warrior/Clerics own Chinese in PvP, it's just common knowledge.

[Fimero]

lol against clerics warlock is useless.

Don't underestimate a build that you dont have.

probably warrior will win in this match-up, but chinese own them both.

That couldn't be more untrue. A Rogue/Warlock is overkill on any chinese. A Rogue/Cleric can hit 46k crit on a Blader, now imagine the damage when the Blader is fully debuffed, the chinese would have no chance in hell of winning. Also everyone knows Warrior/Clerics own Chinese in PvP, it's just common knowledge.

warrior/cleric is always hard to kill but its possible
it bothers me how much effect skills they have along with def increase

[Puma60]

warrior/cleric is always hard to kill but its possible
it bothers me how much effect skills they have along with def increase

Yeah, like every skill they have has either a KB, KD, or Stun on them. Then on top of that they have insane damage and crits with Daredevil, then on top of that they have their Skins, then on top of that they have their Bless, then on top of that they have their heals.

[Fimero]

warrior/cleric is always hard to kill but its possible
it bothers me how much effect skills they have along with def increase

Yeah, like every skill they have has either a KB, KD, or Stun on them. Then on top of that they have insane damage and crits with Daredevil, then on top of that they have their Skins, then on top of that they have their Bless, then on top of that they have their heals.

yea its kinda redonculous how much they have going for them

[borat2]

Well no I would take 100% Rogue lock For the following techique:
1-Stealth and hit him from the back with a stun.
2-Change to rod then daze,burn,dull, sleep......
3-Change to rogue and finish him with combos....
4- Mostly no scratch on you

99% of sro have invisibility pk2 edits.
both build have good and bad sides but warrior/cleric probably has less cons than a rogue/warlock.

It is how you enjoy playing, if you are a 1on1 monster then warlock/rogue is a great build, if you rather be one of the key players of a party then be a warrior/cleric

Few movies that might help you with your choice:
warrior/cleric vs chinese
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warrior/cleric vs euro
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rogue/warlock not that great quality but one of the few FF 100.
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this was 5min work so try searching for more yourself might give you a decent clue on how both builds are.

[Devilman]

yeah, WootKenny has awesome weapon switches... there are few rogue/locks so ill be keeping that build just for fun pvp xD thnx for input guys

[very intelligent]

Warrior/cleric is so overrated, i myself own warrior/clerics so easily i dont see why youre thinking they are good, i just tank their bless and skins, with their 4k 4k dd wont scratch my 25k hp.And when skins and bless are off, you know what happens.

[Jocka]

I think you should go rogue/warlock. Simple because you have rogue to fulfill your pve and unique needs. You also got it for pvp, and if used right, will own any warrior...If you debuff your opponent and use 1-2 dagger moves, they are done...I've seen it done and know that it's easily possible.

[borat2]

Warrior/cleric is so overrated, i myself own warrior/clerics so easily i dont see why youre thinking they are good, i just tank their bless and skins, with their 4k 4k dd wont scratch my 25k hp.And when skins and bless are off, you know what happens.

4k daredevil? sounds like a 60% snow int with castle book on, that is when cleric skills come in handy, pretty sure you will either hide in the safezone or run once your snow is done

[Puma60]

Warrior/cleric is so overrated, i myself own warrior/clerics so easily i dont see why youre thinking they are good, i just tank their bless and skins, with their 4k 4k dd wont scratch my 25k hp.And when skins and bless are off, you know what happens.

4k daredevil? sounds like a 60% snow int with castle book on, that is when cleric skills come in handy, pretty sure you will either hide in the safezone or run once your snow is done

Unless he is a low level 70 bower or something. To say something like this:

probably warrior will win in this match-up, but chinese own them both.

I'm pretty sure he's low level. At 100, Warrior/Clerics usually kill any Chinese build.

[TillTheEnd]

Well no I would take 100% Rogue lock For the following techique:
1-Stealth and hit him from the back with a stun.
2-Change to rod then daze,burn,dull, sleep......
3-Change to rogue and finish him with combos....
4- Mostly no scratch on you

99% of sro have invisibility pk2 edits.
both build have good and bad sides but warrior/cleric probably has less cons than a rogue/warlock.

It is how you enjoy playing, if you are a 1on1 monster then warlock/rogue is a great build, if you rather be one of the key players of a party then be a warrior/cleric

Few movies that might help you with your choice:
warrior/cleric vs chinese
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warrior/cleric vs euro
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rogue/warlock not that great quality but one of the few FF 100.
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this was 5min work so try searching for more yourself might give you a decent clue on how both builds are.

its not really all about the build, but who plays the builds, found this video, that's 2hand sun warrior, so basically normal warrior with 98+7 has little to no chance of winning, all about set/tactics/crits.
you all may reponds with bless/skin w/e but read comments, chinese did not use snow shield or firewall. I think chinese using 98-100 +7 set.

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[wantux]

ech i can say that ppl who says that warlock useless agaist holy spell are noobs and rogue/warlock can easy work against holy spell by using only stun/reflect , i think even warrior/cler don't have a big chance against rogue/lock if rogue/lock know how to play ^^ , well my warrior/warlock 99 banned so when i lvl my rogue/warlock i will show how need to play it right , i haven't seen a good rogue/lock for a while.