Force Nuker

[haipy]

I have a question about the force nuker i mean not Fire/Cold/Light nuker, but .../.../Force.

What must be my skills Force/Cold and what ..., my gear... every thing

Please help me for my build i want something strange and different from the original!

[Rozelady]

take 100/fire/cold/force then.. max everything in the fire tree except the combustion shit, max everything in the cold tree (high lvl frostbite and stuff turn out usefull against euro's and no fire users) Max your debuffs in force aswell as your res, passive and status cure stuff (where u can get shit off yourself).

Take sword/shield and spear.. (spear deals more damage with fire, alltough youll need shield occasionally for extra defense).

And for gear.. i would say protector? not sure about this, but its a rather nice mix up of the defense and since you use fire (mag def) and cold(phy def) it would add up nicely.

[Thomas42]

I'd suggest taking bicheon, cold and force. You should probably go hybrid as well, like 5:1 or so.

[Rozelady]

I'd suggest taking bicheon, cold and force. You should probably go hybrid as well, like 5:1 or so.

He's asking for a full force nuker =)

edit: or isnt he? o.0

[Thomas42]

He's asking about an anything+force build.

[Azavel]

If you want force, go pure str or hybrid str, with bicheon (the best imo)
But if you want a pure int, maybe the best is cold/fire/force. Use protector.
And, if you have fire without any weapon mastery, dont max Flame Body Series and fire passive, of course

[haipy]

nice... i'm asking about for a full force but the idea with bicheon is nice what do you think about Force/cold/light

Light => low dmg then fire but more speed, mag. power, shout, parry ratio

Fire => High dmg, high mag.def and that's it ...

How do you think comment this... for me is better with light don't know comment

You are helping me right now

[Azavel]

The best int char imo is bicheon/lightning/cold. Other good option is bicheon/fire cold.
If you go force instead bicheon, you should go fire instead lightning. Fire have more nukes, and without weapon skills, you need them.
There are a lot of post fire vs lightning. Resumen:
Fire: best imbue, fire shield, more nukes, mag def
Lightning: more mag damage, speed, phantom, parry ratio

Choise

[Blindfire]

Why take fire when you have no weapon skills?

[Rozelady]

cuz of multiple high damage dealing nukes, + strongest imbue.. + fire shield + Firewall?

have 2 say, i EAT any nuker without fireshield.. lol..right after a KD and 4 stabs, all i need is frostbite them after they stand up (means cancelling their attack) pull off either lightning or Thousand Army Chain, then back to KD.. throw in an occasional Twin Energy Smash and theyre dead for sure..

[Fimero]

cuz of multiple high damage dealing nukes, + strongest imbue.. + fire shield + Firewall?

have 2 say, i EAT any nuker without fireshield.. lol..right after a KD and 4 stabs, all i need is frostbite them after they stand up (means cancelling their attack) pull off either lightning or Thousand Army Chain, then back to KD.. throw in an occasional Twin Energy Smash and theyre dead for sure..

if i remember correctly or it has changed in past updates
light is stronger alone compared to fire alone
light has higher end dmg, mag increase buff, grass walk, phantom walk, higher end nuke, aoe, and lion shout.
fire gives steady dmg, fire wall, and fire shield.
for a full force build i would pick
light,cold,fire

[haipy]

nice... guys but how do you comment this videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TsuQz9hPrQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUGEraql ... L&index=64

with light i don't see any videos force nuker with fire i'm confused

[Fimero]

cuz of multiple high damage dealing nukes, + strongest imbue.. + fire shield + Firewall?

have 2 say, i EAT any nuker without fireshield.. lol..right after a KD and 4 stabs, all i need is frostbite them after they stand up (means cancelling their attack) pull off either lightning or Thousand Army Chain, then back to KD.. throw in an occasional Twin Energy Smash and theyre dead for sure..

if i remember correctly or it has changed in past updates
light is stronger alone compared to fire alone
light has higher end dmg, mag increase buff, grass walk, phantom walk, higher end nuke, aoe, and lion shout.
fire gives steady dmg, fire wall, and fire shield.
for a full force build i would pick
light,cold,fire

[haipy]

ok tnx guys you realy help me I'm happy that you comment my post tnx

[Fimero]

cuz of multiple high damage dealing nukes, + strongest imbue.. + fire shield + Firewall?

have 2 say, i EAT any nuker without fireshield.. lol..right after a KD and 4 stabs, all i need is frostbite them after they stand up (means cancelling their attack) pull off either lightning or Thousand Army Chain, then back to KD.. throw in an occasional Twin Energy Smash and theyre dead for sure..

if i remember correctly or it has changed in past updates
light is stronger alone compared to fire alone
light has higher end dmg, mag increase buff, grass walk, phantom walk, higher end nuke, aoe, and lion shout.
fire gives steady dmg, fire wall, and fire shield.
for a full force build i would pick
light,cold,fire

sorry i ment the build i would pick would be light,cold force.

[_c0nflict_]

I'm in the process of making a Force Nuker, and the only downside im forseeing is the lack of cool sword chains. It utilizes the Debuffs of force to pretty much act like a euro Warlock, to increase the damage of the Nukes. I like the idea. Message me if you wanna know how its going.

cuz of multiple high damage dealing nukes, + strongest imbue.. + fire shield + Firewall?

have 2 say, i EAT any nuker without fireshield.. lol..right after a KD and 4 stabs, all i need is frostbite them after they stand up (means cancelling their attack) pull off either lightning or Thousand Army Chain, then back to KD.. throw in an occasional Twin Energy Smash and theyre dead for sure..

At least in SRO, (idk if its different for other versions) most nukers dont even use Fire anymore, because they use the Snowshield from ice, which is better than fireshield anyways. In addition, the best nukes in the upper degrees are Light, as well as the best magic buffs. Fire=Physical. And Im sure you can eat nukers sometimes, but if the force nuker debuffs you, gets a couple blocks and gets off two nukes in a row, youll be eaten. Dont get me wrong, im a blader fan as well. Force Bladers look legit too. lol

[Fimero]

I'm in the process of making a Force Nuker, and the only downside im forseeing is the lack of cool sword chains. It utilizes the Debuffs of force to pretty much act like a euro Warlock, to increase the damage of the Nukes. I like the idea. Message me if you wanna know how its going.

cuz of multiple high damage dealing nukes, + strongest imbue.. + fire shield + Firewall?

have 2 say, i EAT any nuker without fireshield.. lol..right after a KD and 4 stabs, all i need is frostbite them after they stand up (means cancelling their attack) pull off either lightning or Thousand Army Chain, then back to KD.. throw in an occasional Twin Energy Smash and theyre dead for sure..

At least in SRO, (idk if its different for other versions) most nukers dont even use Fire anymore, because they use the Snowshield from ice, which is better than fireshield anyways. In addition, the best nukes in the upper degrees are Light, as well as the best magic buffs. Fire=Physical. And Im sure you can eat nukers sometimes, but if the force nuker debuffs you, gets a couple blocks and gets off two nukes in a row, youll be eaten. Dont get me wrong, im a blader fan as well. Force Bladers look legit too. lol

i agree with what you are saying
saying everone is about the same degree of gaming (lvl, skills, gear)

[_c0nflict_]

I'm in the process of making a Force Nuker, and the only downside im forseeing is the lack of cool sword chains. It utilizes the Debuffs of force to pretty much act like a euro Warlock, to increase the damage of the Nukes. I like the idea. Message me if you wanna know how its going.

cuz of multiple high damage dealing nukes, + strongest imbue.. + fire shield + Firewall?

have 2 say, i EAT any nuker without fireshield.. lol..right after a KD and 4 stabs, all i need is frostbite them after they stand up (means cancelling their attack) pull off either lightning or Thousand Army Chain, then back to KD.. throw in an occasional Twin Energy Smash and theyre dead for sure..

At least in SRO, (idk if its different for other versions) most nukers dont even use Fire anymore, because they use the Snowshield from ice, which is better than fireshield anyways. In addition, the best nukes in the upper degrees are Light, as well as the best magic buffs. Fire=Physical. And Im sure you can eat nukers sometimes, but if the force nuker debuffs you, gets a couple blocks and gets off two nukes in a row, youll be eaten. Dont get me wrong, im a blader fan as well. Force Bladers look legit too. lol

i agree with what you are saying
saying everone is about the same degree of gaming (lvl, skills, gear)

Exactly, its all about your gear and knowing how to play your character well. Even Euro builds have been somewhat completely nerfed at this point.

[Rozelady]

About the euros being nerfed... lol where? Not even a single debuff goes trough holy anymore.. Bleed used to come trough (and dull if i remember correctly) only thing now is stun. thats it.

And for the force nuker debuffing me, after 1 nuke, i can pot myself to atleast 90% HP (xl HP, 25% vigor) already before he fires the second.. and in the meantime i can disrupt his 2nd nuke with either KD, or stun/fear.

Dont get me wrong, they deal massive damage, and they are a force to be accounted for.
BUT as you said yourself, if you know your char well, you can hold up.

[_c0nflict_]

About the euros being nerfed... lol where? Not even a single debuff goes trough holy anymore.. Bleed used to come trough (and dull if i remember correctly) only thing now is stun. thats it.

And for the force nuker debuffing me, after 1 nuke, i can pot myself to atleast 90% HP (xl HP, 25% vigor) already before he fires the second.. and in the meantime i can disrupt his 2nd nuke with either KD, or stun/fear.

Dont get me wrong, they deal massive damage, and they are a force to be accounted for.
BUT as you said yourself, if you know your char well, you can hold up.

I guess nerfed wasnt the right word, what I mean to say is that you dont see a total domination of the Euros over the chinese anymore, the chinese builds arent as inferior as they used to be. No one complains about euros being overpowered anymore.

But I do agree with you about playing your character.... If i were pvping you id just keep repeating until you ran out of vigors, and hope i get some lucky blocks on you kd. =)

[Fimero]

About the euros being nerfed... lol where? Not even a single debuff goes trough holy anymore.. Bleed used to come trough (and dull if i remember correctly) only thing now is stun. thats it.

And for the force nuker debuffing me, after 1 nuke, i can pot myself to atleast 90% HP (xl HP, 25% vigor) already before he fires the second.. and in the meantime i can disrupt his 2nd nuke with either KD, or stun/fear.

Dont get me wrong, they deal massive damage, and they are a force to be accounted for.
BUT as you said yourself, if you know your char well, you can hold up.

if a char knows their force nuker build and how much hp the other has they should cast a nuke and follow it up with some consecutive lion shouts to finish them off
of course it matters to the scenario but most likely that will finish them off

[Rozelady]

@ _c0nflict_

Ah, yeah pretty much true.. no more 1 shot everything wizzies ^^
Chinese are getting more equal in power atm indeed. Good progression in my eyes.. brings back
the fun in pvping.. 90cap was allways.. pvp a wiz? nvm.. pvp a war/cler? lols.. pvp a warlock? you dead before ya cape was on >.<

@ Fimero

Kinda true aswell.. but, dont forget.. they suck up MP.. with the highest lvl snowshield, all i need is 3/4 good crits (preferred consecutive) and they cant attack anymore cuz of the lack of mp (and without MP to burn, the damage is just taken as normal, not the 60% switch to mana! )

[_c0nflict_]

@ _c0nflict_

Ah, yeah pretty much true.. no more 1 shot everything wizzies ^^
Chinese are getting more equal in power atm indeed. Good progression in my eyes.. brings back
the fun in pvping.. 90cap was allways.. pvp a wiz? nvm.. pvp a war/cler? lols.. pvp a warlock? you dead before ya cape was on >.<@ Fimero

Kinda true aswell.. but, dont forget.. they suck up MP.. with the highest lvl snowshield, all i need is 3/4 good crits (preferred consecutive) and they cant attack anymore cuz of the lack of mp (and without MP to burn, the damage is just taken as normal, not the 60% switch to mana! )

Hahaha amen to that dude, thats about the time i quit sro for a while... All the excessive gold bots plus the extreme Euro overpowering pissed me off. lol.

and thats a very good point about the snowsheild... Ive heard alot of nukers dont use the highest level of it for that very reason... what do you think?

[XMoshe]

A friend is 100 force/fire, 70 ice, 30 light. He got a prem+/devil now and does insane nukes (+7 sword). It's just a shame all he can do is stand and nuke, no skills to interrupt the opponent or what ever.

[Fimero]

@ _c0nflict_

Ah, yeah pretty much true.. no more 1 shot everything wizzies ^^
Chinese are getting more equal in power atm indeed. Good progression in my eyes.. brings back
the fun in pvping.. 90cap was allways.. pvp a wiz? nvm.. pvp a war/cler? lols.. pvp a warlock? you dead before ya cape was on >.<

@ Fimero

Kinda true aswell.. but, dont forget.. they suck up MP.. with the highest lvl snowshield, all i need is 3/4 good crits (preferred consecutive) and they cant attack anymore cuz of the lack of mp (and without MP to burn, the damage is just taken as normal, not the 60% switch to mana! )

3 crits in a row is rare
they dont have to use the max snowsheild (even though its rape without it)
but mp would be a big issue because nukes are effin drainage.

[Rozelady]

@ Con

Hehe well for the point of overpowered euros.. you can come back now ^^ as for the gold bots.. keep looking for another game xD!

But about the snowshield.. they only (mainly) use it for grinding as far as i see..? those who use it in PVP are mostly backed up by those shitty safezonebards..
and if they dont have those bards, Well.. get off the highest damage you can in a short amount of time i mean.. lvl 100 nuker has.. 41k MP or something? so when you are seeing 6k hits, you are actually doing 13,5k damage.. 7,5k goes off their MP, 41k - 7,5k - highest imbue.. 2,4k? (i think xD) - 3k or something for a nuke = their mp down to 28k already. And thats with 1 6k (shown damage) hit.
Know your oponent and know yourself !

@ Fimero
Could be.. but since i got crit 16 on my blade.. (<3 sun) it happens quite often.. and quite often on the quadrupple stab aswell
Option would be, using 25% vigors.. (they restore MP alot faster then the xl vigors.)

@Mosh
Allways wondered about that build.. got any pvp vids of it? all force nukers ive seen are force light cold.. none has fire.
and btw, (bit offtopic) youre a force str user.. im changing my blader to force aswell.. what do u use, 100 fire? or 80 fire and 20 cold? PM me about it aswell btw (you can do that in Dutch )

[VividViper]

If you want force, go pure str or hybrid str, with bicheon (the best imo)
But if you want a pure int, maybe the best is cold/fire/force. Use protector.
And, if you have fire without any weapon mastery, dont max Flame Body Series and fire passive, of course

I agree with him. Without cold you'd be screwed in pvp so cold is a must, fire and light can played with though

[ranqeg0d1]

i think
fire/cold/force is a better build and stringer

[marckillz91]

If you want force, go pure str or hybrid str, with bicheon (the best imo)
But if you want a pure int, maybe the best is cold/fire/force. Use protector.
And, if you have fire without any weapon mastery, dont max Flame Body Series and fire passive, of course

That's not true, With lightning you can hit alot more with the nukes. but u can also hit lower. U will get at lv 65 15% magical dmg with lightning and the speed ofcourse . Fire has a high dmg but no magical buff that inclreas your attack power. In my opinion take Lighting Cold Force. You will rock and grinding very fast becouse the and dmg because or force.


Making Str Hybrid Pacheon FIre Force. Farming at Ongs 1.2 mil sp.

[XMoshe]

If you want force, go pure str or hybrid str, with bicheon (the best imo)
But if you want a pure int, maybe the best is cold/fire/force. Use protector.
And, if you have fire without any weapon mastery, dont max Flame Body Series and fire passive, of course

That's not true, With lightning you can hit alot more with the nukes. but u can also hit lower. U will get at lv 65 15% magical dmg with lightning and the speed ofcourse . Fire has a high dmg but no magical buff that inclreas your attack power. In my opinion take Lighting Cold Force. You will rock and grinding very fast becouse the and dmg because or force.


Making Str Hybrid Pacheon FIre Force. Farming at Ongs 1.2 mil sp.

That's what the force is for, I prefer the mag def/imbue/nukes/immunity/wall from fire than the speed and dmg increase from light. After all, the only thing you can do is nuke so why would you need speed or phantom since you have to be fairly close to the opponent.