According to Roc.

Gero · Post by **Gero** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:22 pm

Well, recently i saw some vids about roc and how is he being killed, some stuff was dropped but not important now. My question is How they could manage to kill him while on Isro Servers only 2-5% of his HP was taken.

Thomas42 · Post by **Thomas42** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:25 pm

Teamwork.

Puma60 · Post by **Puma60** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:27 pm

They have 105 cap, and on some other versions Roc was nerfed from level 107 to 104.

Ownage · Post by **Ownage** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:32 pm

He was nerfed, more people went to kill him, and they knew how to use teamwork to win.

beko · Post by **beko** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:43 pm

actually isro most of ppl serch how to (PK ppl , make bug , killing low lv player , and ks ) xD
they not make good teamwork for 'Roc'

onemmore thing : suck joymax make time Roc appear most of ppl work or sleeping

Razorhead · Post by **Razorhead** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:46 pm

Ksro = Korean
Jsro = Japan
Tsro = Taiwan
Csro = Chinese
sro

These all group 1 country, so everyone is nearly online at the same time/moment.
Isro = International
American players, Western Europe players, Eastern Europe players, Australian players -> all different time zones + FULL servers cuz of goldbots

(For me (GMT+1: Brussels,Amsterdam,Berlin,Bern,Rome,Stockholm)Roc spawns at 11AM (or 10AM, don't remember >< ) on wednesdays... so it's impossible for me to go to ROC) And I can imagine it's impossible for a lot of other western european players too

NuclearSilo · Post by **NuclearSilo** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:51 pm

because 90% of them hunt Roch while in iSRO, 90% are busy to bot

Gero · Post by **Gero** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:13 pm

Kinda s*cks that Isro wont kill roc till 105 cap, maybe if we get some new bug with roc, like the stuck-bug with medusa :banghead:

XxDeeDeeDeexX · Post by **XxDeeDeeDeexX** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:25 pm

iSRO will never kill an un nerfed roc, ever. Stop dreaming, it will not happen until he's nerfed.

curvekiller · Post by **curvekiller** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:29 pm

iSRO would be able to kill it if the time would be changed, the team play improved and the players exchanged with the ksro ones

ATM it's impossible to kill him cause nearly nobody knows to party because bot is the 'easier' way to lvl up for most players... :cry:

Puma60 · Post by **Puma60** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:42 pm

XxDeeDeeDeexX wrote:iSRO will never kill an un nerfed roc, ever. Stop dreaming, it will not happen until he's nerfed.

Never say never

XesoS · Post by **XesoS** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:57 pm

I would kill it if i had 8 pt party full sun sets

well atleast i wouldnt die

Puma60 · Post by **Puma60** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:00 pm

XesoS wrote:I would kill it if i had 8 pt party full sun sets well atleast i wouldnt die

Lol you would still die in full sun.

Bg_DrEaM · Post by **Bg_DrEaM** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:08 pm

If more people were able to go, maybe the teamwork could work. I'm at work at this time (12 o'clock in the day) so impossible to go... most of the players are like me, school or work...

XesoS · Post by **XesoS** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:20 pm

Puma60 wrote:
XesoS wrote:I would kill it if i had 8 pt party full sun sets well atleast i wouldnt die

Lol you would still die in full sun.

8 pt all Euros ??? full sun still die ?? why the hell should you go then To Roc ? Die only ? or enjoy his annoying face lol

kcyberbob · Post by **kcyberbob** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:00 am

It´s so easy to kill roc, but the player in ISRO are to stupid!
Most of the play have bad set and NO teamplay that´s the reason why no one kill roc.
I go to every Roc spawn but when people make partys with low level inside and with player they cant player there char then no chance.
You nee around 15 Partys with 2 bards, 1 cleric, 1 warrior, 4 wizards and player with good items not items FB +5 and bad stats! And that will never happen with all this stupid botters in the game. So stop botting and play with your hands and get the life back in game.

Good luck to all maybe someday the player know how to play and then we get the kill.

Goseki · Post by **Goseki** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:13 am

They should alternate times of FW, Roc, etc. So lame that they keep at the same dam time. They know it's unfair, they should shift it by like 10 hours each time. This gives people at opposite ends of the world a chance, and it pushes the time by 2 hour each cycle. This way, it would be interesting to see who's more dedicated. People all over the would would have an even chance in Isro.

aishsharma · Post by **aishsharma** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:10 am

Goseki wrote:They should alternate times of FW, Roc, etc. So lame that they keep at the same dam time. They know it's unfair, they should shift it by like 10 hours each time. This gives people at opposite ends of the world a chance, and it pushes the time by 2 hour each cycle. This way, it would be interesting to see who's more dedicated. People all over the would would have an even chance in Isro.

they should also find a way to inta ban/block gold bots, reduce the grind, maybe put in an actual game guard system, the list is very long...dont waste your breath man kinda pointless

Fortune · Post by **Fortune** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:31 am

Lol Roc has 1.4 billion hp.
Medusa has around 180 million, it takes 1, 2 hours to kill Medusa (depending on good parties etc.)
So it would take around 9 hours to kill Roc, not to mention, u must be in a VERY good party to stay alive.
Roc can go berserk and hit 80k on you if your unlucky.

XMoshe · Post by **XMoshe** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:01 am

kcyberbob wrote:It´s so easy to kill roc, but the player in ISRO are to stupid!
Most of the play have bad set and NO teamplay that´s the reason why no one kill roc.
I go to every Roc spawn but when people make partys with low level inside and with player they cant player there char then no chance.
You nee around 15 Partys with 2 bards, 1 cleric, 1 warrior, 4 wizards and player with good items not items FB +5 and bad stats! And that will never happen with all this stupid botters in the game. So stop botting and play with your hands and get the life back in game.

Good luck to all maybe someday the player know how to play and then we get the kill.

What the hell do you find good items then? +9 100% blue 80% whites? lol idiot

penfold1992 · Post by **penfold1992** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:10 am

the only level 100's (few exceptions) are still botting. i dno what for.. but i bet they are...
most legits die there, just not strong enough.

bots dno how 2 teamwork and it ends up in a guild war of words between rival guilds. who dont res each other and crap like that.

also. how to kill roc
DOES NOT INCLUDE
all wizzards casting 2 spells at roc
all clerics casting offering and nother else
bladers doing knock downs
bowers standing 3 ft from roc

ive seen a few videos of basically this.
it is needed a full party play, people should die but not nearly as much as ive seen haha

Puma60 · Post by **Puma60** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 6:11 pm

There so many people saying that you just need team work to kill Roc, and bots don't know how to play in a team bla bla bla yada yada yada. But that is bullshit, have you ever been to Roc? As soon as it hits 99% HP, about 10 level 100 uniques spawn, and countless giants and elites. It's one thing trying to survive against a 107 super unique, but then when a load of level 100 uniques and elites spawn, no one has a chance. Also with the time zones, a lot of people in iSRO are sleeping, people aren't going to wake up at 5am to play a game. With this cap, and a level 107 Roc, no amount of team work will kill Roc.

That's my 2 cents

/Pi · Post by **/Pi** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:24 pm

IIRC, jSRO killed Roc before she was nerfed.

Poochu · Post by **Poochu** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:25 pm

People in CSRO have killed roc a few times, I have seen roc items on Ocean[VIP]

ultraphoenix · Post by **ultraphoenix** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:34 pm

i saw those videos of other isro servers trying to kill roc...
well i just lol'ed:
-no warlocks (no debuffs on roc+ no stun buff on people, also no reflect for team)
-no only-clerics for ressing dead people
-mainly egoplayers who try to "get the kill" of the unique
-racism / dislike between parties / guilds and not the feeling to work all together to achieve the kill...everyone on his own..

btw: EVERYONE at roc WILL die, what csro / jsro players do differently is: they RES players of other parties/ guilds !
you need guys who stand outta the range of roc to res the fighters.

edit (just a thought^^) maybe isro needs the bot-players to get the amount of chars needed to kill roc without teamplay

Puma60 · Post by **Puma60** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:42 pm

Lol, you all think it's so easy to kill him. Do you know why there are no Warlocks to debuff it? Because they are all dead. Do you know why there are no Clerics to ress people? Because they are all dead. Roc can hit up to 50k on a level 100 FF'ed guy. It's alright saying "Stay out of Roc's range", but have you seen Rocs range? Not to mention the 10+ level 100 uniques, elites and giants that will chase you if you even try and get close.

The only reason jSRO and cSRO have killed Roc is because they all live in the same timezone. They can all be there at the same time. In iSRO, people aren't going to wake up at 5am to play a game. Also it's on a Wednesday, people have jobs, and have to go to school.

In short, there is currently no way in hell Roc can be killed in iSRO.

penfold1992 · Post by **penfold1992** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:15 pm

puma.... even if there was a 110cap and there was 100 capped players they couldnt kill it on isro.

even if they all had infinate hp for 2hours.

just generally no party play in isro means people are clueless...

wheres the bards? and ive seen some warlocks and clerics stand and res.. thats it.

its not the fact roc is super strong that we cant kill it (ofc it is... but..) the main problem is isro will never kill roc like they are now.

kcyberbob · Post by **kcyberbob** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:05 pm

xD I was a lot of times @roc in ksro and yes they killed roc a lot of times before 105 update.
In isro is the problem with res other player from other partys and the bad clerics.
At roc you need more then healing orbit! you have a good party no one die!

ultraphoenix · Post by **ultraphoenix** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:58 am

Puma60 wrote:Lol, you all think it's so easy to kill him. Do you know why there are no Warlocks to debuff it? see point of clerics Because they are all dead. Do you know why there are no Clerics to ress people? Because they are all dead. res clerics should stand outta range of roc Roc can hit up to 50k on a level 100 FF'ed guy.yep, but then again, after he dealt his dmg, player should be ressed again and fight roc again (you should also remember the chinese imbues, at roc fire isn't the only way to go...ice / light imbue is also needed! It's alright saying "Stay out of Roc's range", but have you seen Rocs range? i got your point, but rocs one big range attack is a line, so you could just move to his left or right and be save of his attackNot to mention the 10+ level 100 uniques, elites and giants that will chase you if you even try and get close. ok, thats a problem i can understand, but then again...you need all parties to work together, if your party stands with 8/8 in fight and a turk party (just an example) is about to die next to you, then your cleric should've already started to res them. after that your cleric should also buff them, until their cleric stands again. this unique is a challenge, not like all the others

The only reason jSRO and cSRO have killed Roc is because they all live in the same timezone.+0,5, it definitely is a reason, but watch a video of them killing roc to see the how-to. They can all be there at the same time. In iSRO, people aren't going to wake up at 5am to play a game. Also it's on a Wednesday, people have jobs, and have to go to school. +1 that should be changed

In short, there is currently no way in hell Roc can be killed in iSRO.

i believe there is one

septimus · Post by **septimus** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:20 am

ultraphoenix wrote:
Puma60 wrote:Lol, you all think it's so easy to kill him. Do you know why there are no Warlocks to debuff it? see point of clerics Because they are all dead. Do you know why there are no Clerics to ress people? Because they are all dead. res clerics should stand outta range of roc Roc can hit up to 50k on a level 100 FF'ed guy.yep, but then again, after he dealt his dmg, player should be ressed again and fight roc again (you should also remember the chinese imbues, at roc fire isn't the only way to go...ice / light imbue is also needed! It's alright saying "Stay out of Roc's range", but have you seen Rocs range? i got your point, but rocs one big range attack is a line, so you could just move to his left or right and be save of his attackNot to mention the 10+ level 100 uniques, elites and giants that will chase you if you even try and get close. ok, thats a problem i can understand, but then again...you need all parties to work together, if your party stands with 8/8 in fight and a turk party (just an example) is about to die next to you, then your cleric should've already started to res them. after that your cleric should also buff them, until their cleric stands again. this unique is a challenge, not like all the others

The only reason jSRO and cSRO have killed Roc is because they all live in the same timezone.+0,5, it definitely is a reason, but watch a video of them killing roc to see the how-to. They can all be there at the same time. In iSRO, people aren't going to wake up at 5am to play a game. Also it's on a Wednesday, people have jobs, and have to go to school. +1 that should be changed

In short, there is currently no way in hell Roc can be killed in iSRO.

i believe there is one

not any time soon though

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