Pure int s/s

Choseoloiays · Post by **Choseoloiays** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:41 pm

Will a 100 bicheon/fire/light be a very weak pure int ?

Simple question, just answer Yes or No, but if you want just leave a comment

xKingpinx · Post by **xKingpinx** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:58 pm

Hell yes...no snow or phys defense...you would be like 3-4 hits for a pure str the same level or even a couple lvls lower. And even with full sun gear you would die alot with that build.

Choseoloiays · Post by **Choseoloiays** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:00 pm

K well once i find out my cSRO crap ima create a pure int S/S 100 bich/fire/cold

Or any opinions on that ?

I think i might miss out on some damage from buffs, and of course speed and parry...

but i havent used the fire nukes yet so

xKingpinx · Post by **xKingpinx** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:03 pm

Thats a good solid build...you could also try 100 Bicheon/Fire/Cold...thats a good build if you got the money for speed drugs

Choseoloiays · Post by **Choseoloiays** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:26 pm

Or if i have a bard with me

Laptop FTW !

Azavel · Post by **Azavel** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:28 pm

A pure int needs ice. So:
Bicheon/ice/lightning
Bicheon/ice/fire
As you prefer

Choseoloiays · Post by **Choseoloiays** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:48 pm

Lol tbh i have no idea what the difference is between

100 bich/cold/fire

or

100/fire/cold

Im gonna use the fire imbue and max most of the skills, so i guess i will be having 100/fire/cold ?

EDIT :

Could a hybrid S/S nuker go 100 bich/fire/light ?

Also how far hybrid can i go and still do a nice bit of damage in both pvp and pve, like say... still 1 hit with my nukes ?

jyushinshuu · Post by **jyushinshuu** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 3:16 am

hybrid fails, i have a friend who has hybrid char, he created it before the snow shield update. it is level 90 now but he deleted it and create a new hybrid bower, btw, he is 1:5 hybrid weapon/fire/light. he tried spear and sword but it sucked.

Choseoloiays · Post by **Choseoloiays** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:05 am

I got a 1:5 hybrid spear going now and lol ive gotta say it doesnt suck. Your friend must have done something wrong...

Although im not sure about hybrid s/s so i guess im gonna make a pure int 100 bich/light/cold

Macsnow · Post by **Macsnow** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:26 pm

jyushinshuu wrote:hybrid fails, i have a friend who has hybrid char, he created it before the snow shield update. it is level 90 now but he deleted it and create a new hybrid bower, btw, he is 1:5 hybrid weapon/fire/light. he tried spear and sword but it sucked.

Thats a good hybrid, lol. Your friend must've thought he was gonna "own all" with +3 gear...

xKingpinx · Post by **xKingpinx** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 4:59 pm

Actually Hybrids are some of the best builds.... Hybrid S/S is very strong if you make it correctly..Hybrid Spear is also really effective.. You just gotta know how to build them... (add what points where etc..)

Azavel · Post by **Azavel** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 5:11 pm

A hybrid can be as good as a pure str or int. All the char can be good at pvp, but you should know how to use it (some people buy an account, or level by "other way" and really dont know how yo use his char

)

zico · Post by **zico** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:38 am

100 bicheon/fire/light is a very offensive build

My friend made this build and in pve its a kid game ^^ but in pvp u have to be quick .... from most of his pvp i saw i'd say its 50/50 win/lost ..imo its still the same matter ..nuker without snow its weaky

_c0nflict_ · Post by **_c0nflict_** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:33 pm

zico wrote:100 bicheon/fire/light is a very offensive build

My friend made this build and in pve its a kid game ^^ but in pvp u have to be quick .... from most of his pvp i saw i'd say its 50/50 win/lost ..imo its still the same matter ..nuker without snow its weaky

lulz... "weaky"

haha but yeah it is... take bich/ice/light.. fire is for physical users because it has magical defense, something you dont need as a nuker, plus the flame body series is weapon based, and thats pointless if you use nukes.

BaronSengir · Post by **BaronSengir** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:44 pm

_c0nflict_ wrote:
zico wrote:100 bicheon/fire/light is a very offensive build

My friend made this build and in pve its a kid game ^^ but in pvp u have to be quick .... from most of his pvp i saw i'd say its 50/50 win/lost ..imo its still the same matter ..nuker without snow its weaky

lulz... "weaky"

haha but yeah it is... take bich/ice/light.. fire is for physical users because it has magical defense, something you dont need as a nuker, plus the flame body series is weapon based, and thats pointless if you use nukes.

who says fire is for physical users only? hell a nuker with fire can even wear armor ........ cant go wrong build ... 100 bich 100 fire 100 ice the only thing you will be missing is phantom thats about it

XMoshe · Post by **XMoshe** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:26 pm

Friend has a pure int bich/light/fire. Well not 100/100/100...he has like 30 ice/70 light. He got +7 s/s, 100 parts (100 chest I think). He's really strong, insane dmg. Even higher with bleed. But yes, I think the low snow kills him too much.

Fimero · Post by **Fimero** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:20 am

BaronSengir wrote:
_c0nflict_ wrote:
zico wrote:100 bicheon/fire/light is a very offensive build

My friend made this build and in pve its a kid game ^^ but in pvp u have to be quick .... from most of his pvp i saw i'd say its 50/50 win/lost ..imo its still the same matter ..nuker without snow its weaky

lulz... "weaky"

haha but yeah it is... take bich/ice/light.. fire is for physical users because it has magical defense, something you dont need as a nuker, plus the flame body series is weapon based, and thats pointless if you use nukes.

who says fire is for physical users only? hell a nuker with fire can even wear armor ........ cant go wrong build ... 100 bich 100 fire 100 ice the only thing you will be missing is phantom thats about it

your missing phantom, grass walk, lion shouts, parry inc buffs, mag inc buffs, higher end dmg nukes. light is the better option for an int.

BaronSengir · Post by **BaronSengir** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:43 am

Fimero wrote:your missing phantom, grass walk, lion shouts, parry inc buffs, mag inc buffs, higher end dmg nukes. light is the better option for an int.

grass walk? you can buy speed pots everyone can afford that now
lion shouts? lol no need since you can 1 shot things with fire nuke or cuts
parry? you can make that up with gear ie whites/blues and/or scrolls
mag dmg buff? fire nukes are 330%
higher end light dmg nukes? lol please

light is not a better option for nukers its an option but certainly not better
since cap 105 is coming and chinese mastery has been bumped to 330 fire nukes will be even stronger
105 bich 105 fire 100 ice 20 light? or 90 ice 30 light?

_c0nflict_ · Post by **_c0nflict_** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:08 pm

BaronSengir wrote:
Fimero wrote:your missing phantom, grass walk, lion shouts, parry inc buffs, mag inc buffs, higher end dmg nukes. light is the better option for an int.

grass walk? you can buy speed pots everyone can afford that now
lion shouts? lol no need since you can 1 shot things with fire nuke or cuts
parry? you can make that up with gear ie whites/blues and/or scrolls
mag dmg buff? fire nukes are 330%
higher end light dmg nukes? lol please

light is not a better option for nukers its an option but certainly not better
since cap 105 is coming and chinese mastery has been bumped to 330 fire nukes will be even stronger
105 bich 105 fire 100 ice 20 light? or 90 ice 30 light?

your a retard, the fact is that the light nukes ARE stronger at higher levels, your smartass comment doesnt change that... and why would you give up all of the benefits of light for a strong nuke from fire? Sure you can make it all up with blues and scrolls and things but that can be said about any build lacking in a certain area. And if you honestly think your going to one shot a pure str warrior or blader with one fire nuke then you are wrong, especially if their gear is any good at all.
and cap 105? lol your proving that your a retard, its cap 110...

BaronSengir · Post by **BaronSengir** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:47 pm

_c0nflict_ wrote:
BaronSengir wrote:
Fimero wrote:your missing phantom, grass walk, lion shouts, parry inc buffs, mag inc buffs, higher end dmg nukes. light is the better option for an int.

grass walk? you can buy speed pots everyone can afford that now
lion shouts? lol no need since you can 1 shot things with fire nuke or cuts
parry? you can make that up with gear ie whites/blues and/or scrolls
mag dmg buff? fire nukes are 330%
higher end light dmg nukes? lol please

light is not a better option for nukers its an option but certainly not better
since cap 105 is coming and chinese mastery has been bumped to 330 fire nukes will be even stronger
105 bich 105 fire 100 ice 20 light? or 90 ice 30 light?

your a retard, the fact is that the light nukes ARE stronger at higher levels, your smartass comment doesnt change that... and why would you give up all of the benefits of light for a strong nuke from fire? Sure you can make it all up with blues and scrolls and things but that can be said about any build lacking in a certain area. And if you honestly think your going to one shot a pure str warrior or blader with one fire nuke then you are wrong, especially if their gear is any good at all.
and cap 105? lol your proving that your a retard, its cap 110...

easy with the name calling junior the only retard here is you let others read your comment on cap 110 ROFL

you just made yourself sound like a RETARD

And if you honestly think your going to one shot a pure str warrior or blader with one fire nuke

so you just pointed it out yourself that light sux besides i would take higher consistant dmg anyday over low dmg light nukes
since your talking about pvp now tell me how does light help you in pvp LOL

XMoshe · Post by **XMoshe** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:26 pm

The fact you take fire over light is not because of the nukes, but because of the immunity, mag def, phy dmg increase (it's not much but you do deal phy dmg) and the fire wall.

As a pure int I think your damage is high enough to go without light. Or you could take like 70/30 ice/light.

Fimero · Post by **Fimero** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:47 am

BaronSengir wrote:
Fimero wrote:your missing phantom, grass walk, lion shouts, parry inc buffs, mag inc buffs, higher end dmg nukes. light is the better option for an int.

grass walk? you can buy speed pots everyone can afford that now
lion shouts? lol no need since you can 1 shot things with fire nuke or cuts
parry? you can make that up with gear ie whites/blues and/or scrolls
mag dmg buff? fire nukes are 330%
higher end light dmg nukes? lol please

light is not a better option for nukers its an option but certainly not better
since cap 105 is coming and chinese mastery has been bumped to 330 fire nukes will be even stronger
105 bich 105 fire 100 ice 20 light? or 90 ice 30 light?

saving money on speed pots is always a plus. lions shouts are very effective in every situation (light also 1 shots so that was a dumb respond(even though your whole respond is dumb))
yes i just double paranthesesed.
so you can have more parry and you can add blues for just about anything in fire tree
mag dmg increases all magical attacks not only nukes so light covers more
and yes it actually does have higher end dmg nukes (but also lower end)
everything for chinese is gonna get stonger, its not like only fire will increase.

klokus · Post by **klokus** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:18 am

_c0nflict_ wrote:
BaronSengir wrote:
Fimero wrote:your missing phantom, grass walk, lion shouts, parry inc buffs, mag inc buffs, higher end dmg nukes. light is the better option for an int.

grass walk? you can buy speed pots everyone can afford that now
lion shouts? lol no need since you can 1 shot things with fire nuke or cuts
parry? you can make that up with gear ie whites/blues and/or scrolls
mag dmg buff? fire nukes are 330%
higher end light dmg nukes? lol please

light is not a better option for nukers its an option but certainly not better
since cap 105 is coming and chinese mastery has been bumped to 330 fire nukes will be even stronger
105 bich 105 fire 100 ice 20 light? or 90 ice 30 light?

your a retard, the fact is that the light nukes ARE stronger at higher levels, your smartass comment doesnt change that... and why would you give up all of the benefits of light for a strong nuke from fire? Sure you can make it all up with blues and scrolls and things but that can be said about any build lacking in a certain area. And if you honestly think your going to one shot a pure str warrior or blader with one fire nuke then you are wrong, especially if their gear is any good at all.
and cap 105? lol your proving that your a retard, its cap 110...

lol

BaronSengir · Post by **BaronSengir** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 4:17 pm

Fimero wrote:saving money on speed pots is always a plus. lions shouts are very effective in every situation (light also 1 shots so that was a dumb respond(even though your whole respond is dumb))
yes i just double paranthesesed.
so you can have more parry and you can add blues for just about anything in fire tree
mag dmg increases all magical attacks not only nukes so light covers more
and yes it actually does have higher end dmg nukes (but also lower end)
everything for chinese is gonna get stonger, its not like only fire will increase.

you still dont get it do you? since the new mastery will be 330 and you have 105 fire and 105 bicheon and you can split cold/light fire is the clear winner in dmg

oh yeah light has higher end dmg nukes that beat fire? show me a screenshot or better yet go check out the stats on the nukes yourself

someone whose going 105 fire 105 bicheon (60 light 60 cold or however you want to split those two) for 105 cap will outdamage your light nukes and dmg

Fimero · Post by **Fimero** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:45 pm

BaronSengir wrote:
Fimero wrote:saving money on speed pots is always a plus. lions shouts are very effective in every situation (light also 1 shots so that was a dumb respond(even though your whole respond is dumb))
yes i just double paranthesesed.
so you can have more parry and you can add blues for just about anything in fire tree
mag dmg increases all magical attacks not only nukes so light covers more
and yes it actually does have higher end dmg nukes (but also lower end)
everything for chinese is gonna get stonger, its not like only fire will increase.

you still dont get it do you? since the new mastery will be 330 and you have 105 fire and 105 bicheon and you can split cold/light fire is the clear winner in dmg

oh yeah light has higher end dmg nukes that beat fire? show me a screenshot or better yet go check out the stats on the nukes yourself

someone whose going 105 fire 105 bicheon (60 light 60 cold or however you want to split those two) for 105 cap will outdamage your light nukes and dmg

http://sro.mmosite.com/database/skills/fire.shtml
according to this what im saying is right
i quit isro maybe its not the same ingame
i understand where you are coming with about the 105 mastery and splitting
but most likely a pure int will want to have cold maxed for phys def and snow sheild
so therefore int is a better choice
yes for dmg it will probably out dmg but thats not certain
there are no tests done or proven
it would be helpfull to know the skills for 105

Amro · Post by **Amro** » Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:57 am

i would say 100bicheon 100fire 60cold 40light (or something like that, +- 10 lvls)

very intelligent · Post by **very intelligent** » Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:26 am

Dont make cold, is very noob.Full damage magical and fire.

XMoshe · Post by **XMoshe** » Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:13 pm

very intelligent wrote:Dont make cold, is very noob.Full damage magical and fire.

For a having a forum name like that you're pretty stupid O_o

An int without cold? That's suicide. Well, unless he can pay for a full sun+7 set/acc set but even then he'll die pretty easily without snow.

Choseoloiays · Post by **Choseoloiays** » Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:04 pm

Wow lol the whole thread was about changing ice with fire not light with fire...

_c0nflict_ · Post by **_c0nflict_** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:41 am

Choseoloiays wrote:Wow lol the whole thread was about changing ice with fire not light with fire...

lolz... sorry bud... Keep ice tho, and max it... you totally need the physical defense and snow sheild for a nuker's defense. As for light or fire, its up to you.

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