Who hijacked Islam?!

[Ashikiheyun]

Roh-boy!

What group is this?

[inky]

Roh-boy!

What group is this?

Westboro Baptist Church...

Inbred, media-whoring, funeral-crashing, homophobic, bible-thumping fundamentalists.

[Hellraider]

Well as most people here only see and hear weird stuff on TV, i can see it with my own eyes on the street. As much as i want to believe the islam is a peaceful religion, i can't help thinking about the scum i see on the streets here.

I do believe (and probably is the truth) that islam is more peaceful in their respective countries, but for some reason only the muslim immigrants are causing havoc here. Coincidence? I don't think so. Abusing our system, while the government are too pussy to do anything about the immigrants causing a mess. At least in their home country they will get treated the way they deserve.

This is the reason why muslims are so hated around here. Holland is the opposite of their country, and they do not want to adept to us, instead they want us to adept to them, which in turn is making this country a muslim country eventually.
Muslims first word in Dutch is "Racism" which they will use at every possibility to get the judges on their side. But instead, because they are the opposite of us, THEY are the ones being racist, you never hear that on the news.

Atheism is rising, and will keep rising. More and more things we only could explain with religion, are now being explained by science, this is also a reason why religion gets more hated on, while in turns, religious people hate atheists more and more as well.

*Predicts a religious war coming up within the next 10-20 years*

Don't get me wrong, i do agree with the video. Media has always been like this, and always will be.

[XemnasXD]

you are confusing an ethnicity with a religion. If people of a certain ethnic background are causing trouble what religion they are should be the least of your worries, the problem is the people not the religion. In my eyes being unable to separate the two turns it into a religious debate which only complicates things, adds to the problem, and brings out the worst in people.

If you're predicting a religious war its only because you're getting caught up in this anti-muslim propaganda which should be targeted at the ethic group causing trouble and not the religion which is found worldwide and doesn't have the same type of results as it does in your country. The number of Atheist may be on the rise but so is the number of Muslims in my country and its not just immigration its conversion. Still we don't have the same problem that you are having which leads me to believe the religion is not the problem. Until you and your people stop looking at it that way expect be buried in a bureaucratic PC shitstorm...

[Beethoven]

*Predicts a religious war coming up within the next 10-20 years*

this is a pretty smart prediction.

I think it's gonna be more Atheists vs Religion since it's an undeniable fact, atheism is spreading widely as technology improves, internet spreads. (Yes, internet has a LOT to do with the increase of atheists). This would unite Christians, Muslims and even Jews against the Atheists. No idea how it'll go but we'll just have to wait and see

Yup, the internet and the easy access of information is a disease to religions.

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Again, why should we believe in this book?

[heroo]

It doesn't matter anyways, atheism is rising! No dogmas, no gods, no masters, no non sense!

Nahh, it acutally says: If your country or people are ever threatened by those who do not believe in the Islam, and who are looking to destroy the Islam, you have the right to fight, hunt and kill those people.

Now even though this also isn't peaceful, the truth is always more nuanced.

veryone knows Islam and Christianity is this secret black vs. white war. Religion is nothing more but a fashion statement.

This however is an interesting remark. Never thought of it that way.

[asusi]

Guys i asked nicely no need to discuses about Islam or Christianity here, Religion is to believe not for discussing about it. please stay on topic it's about the media, not about religion.

Edit: I see people get frustrated, and start bashing religions, that won't change anything, aaand by posting some cr*p self made "theoretic" so called research about Quran, what is that suppose to mean? so called proof? please keep it for your self.

[w00t]

Asusi, look at my avatar. Thats what I think when I read a lot of posts here

[cpinney]

beethoven, ur posts are not relevant to the current discussion, its about medias effect on religious disputes not the religion itself.

[Jstar1]

I extremists.

can I borrow your ak-47 so I can shoot them down?

[_MvP_]

Pff, Please bring up something new. Our whole life is manipulated by the media. I can tell you cuz I work as a cameraman in the netherlands. Everything you see on TV is fake.

TV is about rating, so they just try to make everything as juicy as possible just to get people to watch it.

For example a colluege of mine went to Irak, They put a teddy bear on the floor between some descructed houses and asked him to make a shot of it. Just to let the people back home see that a "little kid lost his bear and died".

Here's a tip for you all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ptj2qKIswLw

Couldnt agree more.

I will never understand those retards like this guy that make these stupid videos.

[Strwarrior]

*Predicts a religious war coming up within the next 10-20 years*

this is a pretty smart prediction.

I think it's gonna be more Atheists vs Religion since it's an undeniable fact, atheism is spreading widely as technology improves, internet spreads. (Yes, internet has a LOT to do with the increase of atheists). This would unite Christians, Muslims and even Jews against the Atheists. No idea how it'll go but we'll just have to wait and see

Yup, the internet and the easy access of information is a disease to religions.

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Again, why should we believe in this book?

i didnt see the vid, but u should believe it, in our religion NO ONE can change any small word in the Quran... its same from 1400 years.

[XemnasXD]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8297826.stm

That kind of stuff is exactly what i was talking about. Muslims make up 4% of the population, 300,000 ppl and the politicians in a bid to gain favor and appeal to the worst side of people are using its political energies to campaign the building of a certain type of architectural design. What do Minarets have to do with anything?

you europeans, keep acting like this and there will be no safe place left in the world for those who despise ignorance...

[ApocalypticDeath]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8297826.stm

That kind of stuff is exactly what i was talking about. Muslims make up 4% of the population, 300,000 ppl and the politicians in a bid to gain favor and appeal to the worst side of people are using its political energies to campaign the building of a certain type of architectural design. What do Minarets have to do with anything?

you europeans, keep acting like this and there will be no safe place left in the world for those who despise ignorance...

Wow couldn't have said it any better nice post.. and yes very true just like in France with the whole head scarf fiasco.. who cares if a girl wants to cover up her head? To be honest current times are messed up..