ECSRO - Hybrid Str Bowman

[smoti]

I just want to clear up one thing, very important actually .
There are a lot of people talking that full str bow is the best at cap 100 and above.
I had 3 chars, all bow chinese.
First was full str - fire imbue
Second was 70:70 - light imbue ( better ONLY while snow shield is ON)
Third ( on ECSRO) 85% physical balance naked in favour of Str.

The best in my opinion ( plz consider that i have tried all 3 chars above).
Critical is very nice ..like 50-60% more then normal damage, but average damage is very good ! I dont even use snow shield ( cause i have to delevel some mastery light - snow shield was just implemented a few weeks ago in ECSRO - so mastery full ) and i could tank and KILL ALL GLAVIERS, all nukers and bladers at 90 cap in ECSRO .
The only problem is 70:70 archers ...but that will be solved when i put snow shield ON .
So people who talk bullshit from what they hear or read that 85% naked physical balance BOW is shit ...pls reconsider you/re statements.
I am more then pleased whit this archer, as i manage to do 2-3 ( 2 wins for me ) whit a glavier 2 levels higher then me ).
Only +3 bow , and gear +3 ...( str3/ int 3 in average on cloths).

I jope i post in right section .
Have fun

[Goseki]

[smoti]

what is it so fustrating for u dude ?
Sry for bad english ..if that is what offended u .

[Goseki]

It's more the whole everyone posts character stuff in GD when there's a nice link on the side directing you to the right spot. Owell...

Yea I've heard 85% str hybrid pwns bow. Crit bout same and normal attacks hits harder.

[smoti]

Yeah, i feel u
But what i was trying to say is not a guide about making a bow chinese char , is about the fact that when i started this char on ECSRO ( the other 2 were on iSRO - xian and tibet) i was very confused ...it will suck ? etc etc..
I.ve done some math and i said i will give it a try dispite what other are saying.
And i post this here because is an opinion about how my char is doing whit this build that was destroyed by others whit full str or 70:70 builds.
So in a way i did not get the wrong section 100% ? i hope u agree ..

[Kezemz]

A hybrid STR bowman is good. They deal constant good damage. But i feel if you go hyrbid you may be screwing yourself over later on in the levels, but thats my own opinion. Also IMO i feel that a Pure STR Bowman is much better than a Hybrid because of surviability.

[Nitro]

Dont mind Goseki, he is typical postcount-whore spammer.
This should've been in characters & skills, there was alot of discussion about hybrids and full STR, and noone will believe you until you give
people some proof.

[XMoshe]

Dont mind Goseki, he is typical postcount-whore spammer.
This should've been in characters & skills, there was alot of discussion about hybrids and full STR, and noone will believe you until you give
people some proof.

Someone like me

I mean my char is an exception (the build I mean, force bower is alot different from the regular 100 pach/fire/ice or 100 pach/fire,80light,20ice). But unless you get me some proof I'll stick with the whole hybrid str sucks No offense ofcourse.

[smoti]

Someone like me

I mean my char is an exception (the build I mean, force bower is alot different from the regular 100 pach/fire/ice or 100 pach/fire,80light,20ice). But unless you get me some proof I'll stick with the whole hybrid str sucks No offense ofcourse.

Exactly. Thank u
About the survivabilty of this char, as i said, i manage to tank a glavier 2 lvl higher then me and WHITHOUT snow shield. Imagine snow shield only at 25% ...that is a lot of tanking and will give me a boost in defence . 25% because much higher i will remain without mana when fighting does damn nukers
I see a lot of builds every day, some are totaly fail some are prety good.
I like bow ..so i made ,after 4 years of sro, a hbrid that is good for me : GOOD in PVP , THE BEST in hunting uniques and in trading ( i love making money
I really hope ecsro will no get EURO race ...i heate them
well i think this is getting near to closing.
Have fun guys ...and remember ...DON't BUY SILK !!


PS: Give me a hint how to make a movie and i will try to make one ( no promise there cause i really don;t know nothing about making a movie, but i will try

[XMoshe]

I said your build sucks no matter what you say unless you get some proof. Also the whole ecsro is alot different then isro (not just the euro shit)

[smoti]

do u have a full str , hybrid 70:70 and hybrid archer..all you;re chars ?
I guess not . My opinion is at least based on 3 chars that i have grinded myself.
Plus, i made have over exagerate sugesting all bow to get this build. This is the best build FOR ME! ( depends on what u need and expect from a build ).


The point in this is that when i started this build i was very confused...people saying is crap and all.. Turned out to be very good.

[XMoshe]

And I can tell you as someone who did ALOT of pvp with all kind of chars, that hybrid str comes out last. Time after time.

[DarkJackal]

Does ECSro have skills upto the cap?

I thought most of the pservers out had like to skills with a few exceptions.

[Crowley]

And I can tell you as someone who did ALOT of pvp with all kind of chars, that hybrid str comes out last. Time after time.

i really have to disagree there, i can tank and kill glaivers 4 lvls above me without snow as a 85% hybrid. im not saying pure str is bad or anything, but crits are the same and hybrid deals higher damage, activate snow and you can tank just as well. but i dont wanna get into this again, XMoshe im sure your character is really good and you should be proud, and i am of mine. (so sarcasm intended)

Does ECSro have skills upto the cap?

I thought most of the pservers out had like to skills with a few exceptions.

we have 90 skills but afaik we dont have all statuses. however we got snow, mind bow series and KB for bow. but ive noticed that snow doesnt actually deal dmg onto your mp, it just absorbs damage but i could be wrong because i barely use snow and my mp pots are set to like 80% anyway, wouldnt know the difference

[Swindler]

Does ECSro have skills upto the cap?

I thought most of the pservers out had like to skills with a few exceptions.

we have 90 skills but afaik we dont have all statuses. however we got snow, mind bow series and KB for bow. but ive noticed that snow doesnt actually deal dmg onto your mp, it just absorbs damage but i could be wrong because i barely use snow and my mp pots are set to like 80% anyway, wouldnt know the difference

The snow shield doesnt absorb any mana, but you need to have like 300 int to be available to use the lvl 60-80 snow shield, so STR cant use to high afterall.

[XMoshe]

Standard build has snow too (20 ice for snow or maxed ice) so they could just pop snow too and tank you. I guess every hybrid str on Xian sucks then cuz I haven't seen a strong one yet.

[Goseki]

Dont mind Goseki, he is typical postcount-whore spammer.

Cute, that's the last time I ever Farking listen to a mod and try to help the forums.

BTW, for someone that joined a year before me, you have 4x the post count

[bendertrash]

sure, u have all 3 types of archers. But none of them are capped. Hard to give a conclusion with your lowbies.

To someone above, ECsro has full 90 skills now (no debuffs)

[Hellraider]

I seriously doubt you can kill anyone with a +3 bow and int3/str3 on his gear at the cap.. No matter what chinese build you are.

Just wondering what the cap is in ECSRO now and whether you're capped or not, if you're not capped then nobody will believe you, even if you have proof, if you are.. then it's a different story. I'm very sceptical though

Being at the cap is a whole different story as the lvls below.. sure you can have medium-good gear while the rest (especially in ECSRO) have sucky gear at lower lvl, EVERYONE will have full pimped gear at the cap, there you seperate the good from the bad

[Xenophobia]

But with force wouldnt work right ? :|

[CeLL]

i dont get why there is even a debate, chinese have mag and physical damage for a reason. hybrid is not only acceptable, but expected. this cookie cutter bullshit is childs play. if you dont want to hybrid its likely cause your too scared to **** up your build. there is a clear deviation in the balances for each weapon that leaves bow right smack in the middle. 70:70 bow is the shit. euros dont hybrid, because their skills do it automatically, sorta (such as like, xbow reduces hp and or defence for added damage, warlock takes a hit on damage to use a shield and leech life, warrior takes a major hit on damage for survivability, blah blah blah...). except warlock, 90% mag is pwnage. learn to play the build, all the way down to the stat distribution.

[penfold1992]

with kb bowers can be used to do the same job as bladers! so imo str bower with the right technique can be extreamly annoying and effective at holding a line

[CeLL]

i must admit str bowers are pretty effective at holdin' deez

[Hellraider]

I've played a lvl100 bower before, and i pretty much need every single HP i got to stay alive, sure you can use a slightly higher mana shield as hybrid, but that's gonna wear off.

IMO the only proven hybrid builds are ints, although i don't see much anymore in iSRO, they are still rocking in ECSRO

[smoti]

ok...here we go
1.i am not lvl 90 yet...but i dont see the difrence...ya ya spam me whit "noob u will se when u get there...etc"
2. "i need all HP i can get ",,,,but that is bullshit ...i already told u that i can tank a glavier 2 lvl higher then me WITHOUT snow shield.I cannot use it right now cause the char was dual weapon bow+blade, so mastery is full now...i'm deleveling blader.
Str can rezist more ...but cannot ever killed a glavier unless 3/4 crt in a row.
Hybrid 70:70 dies faster then the str85:xxint nacked ..and depens on snow !!
this 85 hybrid can use KB and fire all and can survive to max 3 high lvl then u until uge snow shield again...then is you;re time to hunt him down!
3.It is an opinion about those 3 builds that i have tried ..all 76+ ( highest 82),,,and no matter what u tell me this 85% str base build is the BEST.
take care all
PS don;t buy silk.

[selenne]

I am a lvl 92 hyb str bow, and im doin very well. my lack of hp is smaller than the gains with mp, snow shield and damage. Force builds are the only ones to give me problems at pvp, cuz im gapping and im too lazy to buy special pills.

[ssooss]

SEE IT http://download8.110mb.com/avp/Sword-lv72+13.JPG.html

[CeLL]

^^so.

[XMoshe]

I am a lvl 92 hyb str bow, and im doin very well. my lack of hp is smaller than the gains with mp, snow shield and damage. Force builds are the only ones to give me problems at pvp, cuz im gapping and im too lazy to buy special pills.

Special pills are useless if you got someone who knows how to use his force lol >.> It's like throwing away money x.X

[Karras]

I am a lvl 92 hyb str bow, and im doin very well. my lack of hp is smaller than the gains with mp, snow shield and damage. Force builds are the only ones to give me problems at pvp, cuz im gapping and im too lazy to buy special pills.

Special pills are useless if you got someone who knows how to use his force lol >.> It's like throwing away money x.X

XMoshe
U're Light Force? or Fire Force?