Karras wrote:So does it really matter? The war against bots?
I'll divulge some info.
Dude, the only thing EB did was tell people to actively expose people. With it gone botters will still be banned, the difference will be people won't be able to expose someone they know bots.
Let's go back to before Venus & EB. You had obvious botters on the forum openly claiming to be legit and you had real legits who knew they botted. They, the legits, had screenshots & evidence but unless the botter openly admitted to botting or posted the screenshots him/herself they weren't banned. You know what happened? Legits flamed & flamed & flamed & flamed some more. You know what we do to fire starters, of course you know. You've been here long enough, they get banned. Fast forward, S.G. makes E.B. and ask us if we're with him, Key-J ask us about our past (legit, loader, botter, etc), "all" of us are "clean."
Day 1 The botters admit to botting and say they disagree with E.B.
Day 2 Remakes of people from Day 1 get banned again while arguing the case against E.B.
- People start exposing people -
Day 3 Itonami gets banned after much discussion among mods.
Day 4 Ex-Staff Latoma is exposed
Day 5 Ryoko's return & the last couple remakes from Day 1 get banned again.
- Moving on -
Sylhana is exposed: Inconclusive, we still ban him.
(Here, people start really arguing against E.B., I was one of E.B.'s main defenders)
- Botters start exposing botters -
- Sacchin, DJ, Azilius, & Mike2007 eliminate stragglers -
- Small group of SRFers (L.A.B.) start pushing the line over warnings, E.B. and recent bans -
L.A.B.
Day 1: Hershey (former global mod) attempts to destroy the forum, he was banned for trying to destroy the forum. Reason? Couldn't handle the hate mail for banning people & the last straw was his e-woman getting banned.
Day 2: I step out my circle of Oreoness (Black Male that is perceived as white) to troll, flame, and get stupid on the L.A.B. forums. It was fun but do you know how hard it is to act ghetto?
-fast forward-
L.A.B. people discover way to unban or "exclude IPs from banishment" but they don't do any damage.
-Hershey convinces Vandango to bot-
Story goes on.
All we did was open a section, we answered the call of legits to remove obvious closet botters from the forum. We lost a lot of good members, we got rid of a lot of shit ones too. Eventually people start using E.B. as a way out of SRO & SRF. They weren't exposed, there was no evidence, they just saw SRF as the only thing connecting them to SRO and wanted out. So they start requesting bans and we deliver. I think E.B. was a great success. It got rid of botters - the good posters, the trolls, the flamers, and the attention whores - it nuked them all. Eventually E.B. will die, I think it's already dead and asking us to officially end it is just silly. The war is symbolic of legitimacy & so is SRF.