Interesting view of GoldBots.

[Goseki]

From CAD-

So I guess it's no secret that I'm playing WoW currently. Pierre's got a great little guild on Sentinels. just tearing up the server like a band of misfits.

And we're not the only ones... gold farmers are present as they ever were (and honestly always will be, I imagine), despite Blizzard's best efforts to keep them at bay. Thankfully (and I can't speak for everyone here, but in my personal experience thus far) the direct-message spam has been fairly minimal. Though the general chat gold seller attempts are pretty rampant at times.

I do my civic duty and click the report button every time, but I can't help the nagging feeling that it's a useless gesture. Clearly these sellers know their accounts aren't going to last very long, so is there really a point to helping get them shut down? And in turn, is there really even a viable way to stop them for good?

The other big one these days seems to be the "Come use your WoW login info on our website to earn a new beta exclusive mount!" I'd say that I'd love to meet the people that fall for this sort of thing, but they're probably off in Nigeria looking for their million dollar princess.

In all reality, I think the game has completely assimilated the existence of gold/item sellers at this point. After five years, and the ease of server/character transfers, there isn't a single realm, even brand new ones, that is left untouched by the sale of in-game gold. I don't think any of us have any clue what our server's economy would look like if there had never been such a thing as gold farmers.

I guess what I'm saying is that, while by no means should we (and developers) stop attempting to combat gold sellers, perhaps it's time to realize that, while they are certainly having an effect on the game's economy, they're not really having an effect on our gameplay. Because do we even know gameplay any other way?

That bolded part is kinda true. How many big mmo do you guys know that don't have gold farmers in it. It really is like they're part of normal gameplay now. Pretty much every game you play will have them in it trying to make cash off nerds. Is there even a solution? You ban them, but they always come back. In the words of Southpark, "How can you kill that which has no life?"

[supermando]

From CAD-

So I guess it's no secret that I'm playing WoW currently. Pierre's got a great little guild on Sentinels. just tearing up the server like a band of misfits.

And we're not the only ones... gold farmers are present as they ever were (and honestly always will be, I imagine), despite Blizzard's best efforts to keep them at bay. Thankfully (and I can't speak for everyone here, but in my personal experience thus far) the direct-message spam has been fairly minimal. Though the general chat gold seller attempts are pretty rampant at times.

I do my civic duty and click the report button every time, but I can't help the nagging feeling that it's a useless gesture. Clearly these sellers know their accounts aren't going to last very long, so is there really a point to helping get them shut down? And in turn, is there really even a viable way to stop them for good?

The other big one these days seems to be the "Come use your WoW login info on our website to earn a new beta exclusive mount!" I'd say that I'd love to meet the people that fall for this sort of thing, but they're probably off in Nigeria looking for their million dollar princess.

In all reality, I think the game has completely assimilated the existence of gold/item sellers at this point. After five years, and the ease of server/character transfers, there isn't a single realm, even brand new ones, that is left untouched by the sale of in-game gold. I don't think any of us have any clue what our server's economy would look like if there had never been such a thing as gold farmers.

I guess what I'm saying is that, while by no means should we (and developers) stop attempting to combat gold sellers, perhaps it's time to realize that, while they are certainly having an effect on the game's economy, they're not really having an effect on our gameplay. Because do we even know gameplay any other way?

That bolded part is kinda true. How many big mmo do you guys know that don't have gold farmers in it. It really is like they're part of normal gameplay now. Pretty much every game you play will have them in it trying to make cash off nerds. Is there even a solution? You ban them, but they always come back. In the words of Southpark, "How can you kill that which has no life?"

if every gold buyer stopped buying from gold companies would solve it, I think.

[Mindy]

From CAD-
That bolded part is kinda true. How many big mmo do you guys know that don't have gold farmers in it. It really is like they're part of normal gameplay now. Pretty much every game you play will have them in it trying to make cash off nerds. Is there even a solution? You ban them, but they always come back. In the words of Southpark, "How can you kill that which has no life?"

Sure, every game has gold sellers. But not in that ammount that it matters that much as it does in SRO.

[lopasas]

@supermando

yes
other solution
if whole server would want it, you set up massive bot traps cover the exits

i saw good bot trap, but later on, there was so many bots going thru, that npc thieves couldnt kill them
so you should probably set up 2 traps close to each other
now if server would want to be in populated state, they wouldnt come and destroy the trap
ofcourse it would take alot of time, and you could leave ur char standing overnight, but then again, probably some noobs would come and destroy the trap
imagine, if goldbots would delvl 3-4 lvls, they wouldnt be able to wear armors/weps, which means, they wouldnt even get to grind spot, or if they would do it, they would die instantly, so it would be automatic then and later on, either goldbots would run out of gold, or they would just get the f out of the server.

[supermando]

@supermando

yes
other solution
if whole server would want it, you set up massive bot traps cover the exits

i saw good bot trap, but later on, there was so many bots going thru, that npc thieves couldnt kill them
so you should probably set up 2 traps close to each other
now if server would want to be in populated state, they wouldnt come and destroy the trap
ofcourse it would take alot of time, and you could leave ur char standing overnight, but then again, probably some noobs would come and destroy the trap
imagine, if goldbots would delvl 3-4 lvls, they wouldnt be able to wear armors/weps, which means, they wouldnt even get to grind spot, or if they would do it, they would die instantly, so it would be automatic then and later on, either goldbots would run out of gold, or they would just get the f out of the server.

too much dreaming,the least they could do that they would change their route.
beside,cleaning the bots from the servers is Joymax's job..not ours, thats why we pay them.

[lopasas]

@supermando

yes
other solution
if whole server would want it, you set up massive bot traps cover the exits

i saw good bot trap, but later on, there was so many bots going thru, that npc thieves couldnt kill them
so you should probably set up 2 traps close to each other
now if server would want to be in populated state, they wouldnt come and destroy the trap
ofcourse it would take alot of time, and you could leave ur char standing overnight, but then again, probably some noobs would come and destroy the trap
imagine, if goldbots would delvl 3-4 lvls, they wouldnt be able to wear armors/weps, which means, they wouldnt even get to grind spot, or if they would do it, they would die instantly, so it would be automatic then and later on, either goldbots would run out of gold, or they would just get the f out of the server.

too much dreaming,the least they could do that they would change their route.
beside,cleaning the bots from the servers is Joymax's job..not ours, thats why we pay them.

and how they would change routes? downhan has 3, hotan has 3 whats the problem?
and im not dreaming, if they wouldnt get any profit anymore, eventually they would stop

[supermando]

@supermando

yes
other solution
if whole server would want it, you set up massive bot traps cover the exits

i saw good bot trap, but later on, there was so many bots going thru, that npc thieves couldnt kill them
so you should probably set up 2 traps close to each other
now if server would want to be in populated state, they wouldnt come and destroy the trap
ofcourse it would take alot of time, and you could leave ur char standing overnight, but then again, probably some noobs would come and destroy the trap
imagine, if goldbots would delvl 3-4 lvls, they wouldnt be able to wear armors/weps, which means, they wouldnt even get to grind spot, or if they would do it, they would die instantly, so it would be automatic then and later on, either goldbots would run out of gold, or they would just get the f out of the server.

too much dreaming,the least they could do that they would change their route.
beside,cleaning the bots from the servers is Joymax's job..not ours, thats why we pay them.

and how they would change routes? downhan has 3, hotan has 3 whats the problem?
and im not dreaming, if they wouldnt get any profit anymore, eventually they would stop

i meant the spot they stop at, this idea is useless cuz they just make new goldbots and plvl them...endless cycle.

[DarkJackal]

I know what silkroad is like without goldbots.

And it is nice.

[lopasas]

they will plvl 2000 new goldbots for sure
stop posting stupid lol, u know thats the way to stop them, get over it xD

[supermando]

they will plvl 2000 new goldbots for sure
stop posting stupid lol, u know thats the way to stop them, get over it xD

lets say its the way to stop them..u will have to make a bot trap 24/7
will u fight goldbots or will u really play sro ? imo u should go with the 2nd choice

[Karras]

I know what silkroad is like without goldbots.

And it is nice.

Same here.

they will plvl 2000 new goldbots for sure
stop posting stupid lol, u know thats the way to stop them, get over it xD

Theres no way to stop it.
Ppl will never stop buying.
Your bot trap won't last long enough for them to stop coming back.
Avalon in Venus has been trying since 80 cap. Failed.
So what do we have left? JM.
If JM act, their numbers will b reduced.
Back in the 70 cap. JM did took some serious actions, servers were green/populated at ALL times.
However, it only lasted for few mths.

[lopasas]

obviously avalon didnt try hard enough
meh im just saying
gold bots are keeping me from getting in, but they wont keep me away from pvp n stuff lul

[asusi]

try private silkroad versions why aren't there no goldbots ? once you go private you never go back to isro

[lopasas]

try private silkroad versions why aren't there no goldbots ? once you go private you never go back to isro

i did.




4 times.
>_>
mhtc
mysro
ecsro
swsro
add euro to pserver and im out of isro forever lol

[supermando]

try private silkroad versions why aren't there no goldbots ? once you go private you never go back to isro

i did.




4 times.
>_>
mhtc
mysro
ecsro
swsro
add euro to pserver and im out of isro forever lol

I think eSro will have euro

[lopasas]

try private silkroad versions why aren't there no goldbots ? once you go private you never go back to isro

i did.




4 times.
>_>
mhtc
mysro
ecsro
swsro
add euro to pserver and im out of isro forever lol

I think eSro will have euro

it will have it, i know, but, damn it will take alot of time to be released
n even better theres no date

[JuelzSantana]

play vsro. u dont need 24h of grind time, nobody should sit at their computer past 5 hours of grind time anyway and thats what we have at vsro. keeps bots out, they do inspection EVERY NIGHT 7pm EST - only thing is dont curse, gm's are active at all times, and if u curse they ban u on the spot no joke, so for instance be familiar with viet curse words, like "cave" is a no no, so dont say dw cave say dw tunnels.

[lopasas]

god damn, this is horrible, couldnt get in whole day today, WTFFFFFFMATHERYAR

[TheDrop]

All games have gold botters
But not all games have so many goldbots that the players cant login..

[reLaxx`]

All games have gold botters
But not all games have so many goldbots that the players cant login..

This.

That is what separates sro from other mmos.

[Dutch_leon]

All games have gold botters
But not all games have so many goldbots that the players cant login..

I expected this to be said at the first reply, but to my surprise this is the first post that mentions this. Every game has gold farmers sellers and etc etc, but in WoW you can isntantly login, in Silkroad you can't. But then again, for WoW u gotta pay each month to play, so my suggestion is to make this a Pay 2 play game, or atleast that a must is to have premium at all times if you wanna play. Now don't say anything dumbass like * U already need premium at all times if you wanna play * cause you understand what I mean -.-

[Swindler]

All games have gold botters
But not all games have so many goldbots that the players cant login..

I expected this to be said at the first reply, but to my surprise this is the first post that mentions this. Every game has gold farmers sellers and etc etc, but in WoW you can isntantly login, in Silkroad you can't. But then again, for WoW u gotta pay each month to play, so my suggestion is to make this a Pay 2 play game, or atleast that a must is to have premium at all times if you wanna play. Now don't say anything dumbass like * U already need premium at all times if you wanna play * cause you understand what I mean -.-

This game is already a P2P game.

[PatrokloS]

All games have gold botters
But not all games have so many goldbots that the players cant login..

I expected this to be said at the first reply, but to my surprise this is the first post that mentions this. Every game has gold farmers sellers and etc etc, but in WoW you can isntantly login, in Silkroad you can't. But then again, for WoW u gotta pay each month to play, so my suggestion is to make this a Pay 2 play game, or atleast that a must is to have premium at all times if you wanna play. Now don't say anything dumbass like * U already need premium at all times if you wanna play * cause you understand what I mean -.-

U already need premium at all times if you wanna play

[Bazinator]

i think what people really need to think about is that its not exactly easy for poor old joymax to go and find out and ban thousands of bots and that the guys makin these bots are obviously really smart and guna try there hardest to make bots that are hardest to get caught with

[CeLL]

To say that "if everyone stopped buying gold, there wouldn’t be a problem." is like saying if crakcheads would just stop buying crack, there wouldn’t be a problem. It doesn’t matter how many bot traps or how much actual effort is put in on our behalf, they always find a way. (it was fun watching them have to get plvled on venus cause of bot traps) And if worse comes to worst, they will just have chinese slaves grind for the gold, and sell it for more. That’s all that we can do in SRO, is slightly increase the cost of gold. Gold was like 10+ dollarsish about a year ago, now its like, 6.5 - 8. (these are what I see advertised.) im not saying that its ok to actively participate, I would advise against it. At the same time, your lack of participation, and even efforts agaisnt it make absolutely no headway.


Now I don’t understand wow and how they can spend 15 dollars to make an advertising account for on character for one server, knowing it will get banned fairly quickly, it seems like a losing business. That is unless blizzard actively cooperates with the gold sellers in a way to balance everything out for the players and the gold sellers profits. In sro its very obvious that they work with the gold bots. They have even made official statements of how they work to "balance the bots" not to actively counter their attempts, but to balance them. That is all they do, and they do a very poor job at it too, but I think that statement was prior to the premium ticket was implemented, so now they have no reason to balance the bots.

[Truie]

Your bot trap won't last long enough for them to stop coming back.
Avalon in Venus has been trying since 80 cap. Failed.
So what do we have left? JM.

avalon has not run many bot traps
i'm on venus and the guys running bot traps are the germans. (ArcAngels guild or something)
It's been that way since more than a year ago.

i once saw nightbloom (infamous avalon leader) cheering us while WE were running a bottrap in jangan, me and a friend from my botters' guild.
she ended up being a problem and lost her ring over it, it was back in spring of 08.

bottraps may not put an end to goldsellers (indeed, a childish dream), but it does clear the playing fields from bots while the trap is going on.
It makes the town lag too, and you get some slack for it from the players... and some killing of your trap.

But still bottrapping is hella fun... and it does put some life in the server to have some team doing something for all the players on the server.
Most people pass by and cheer and the unavoidable dicks try to kill the trap.

[NuclearSilo]

Bot program is the key. No bot program => no gold bot.
The solution is the integration of a super intelligence AI bot detector

[Kezemz]

try private silkroad versions why aren't there no goldbots ? once you go private you never go back to isro

Play tSRO i have just moved there, and WOW! I love it. Empty Servers pretty much and well no bots, active GMs, and free SoS weapons what more can you ask for... Only downsides are there is no CTF and also the leveling could be slower than what your used to. But apart from that, i have finally found a SRO worth playing...

[iscared]

Bot population would be banned if they banned all asian ips considering most of the bots/gold sellers are from asia.