Testing - Blader vs Warrior

[Nitro]

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Check the attack distance of two-handed sword & blade.
The difference is 1.2 meters. I would want someone to log in the game who can fight Warrior (and is Blader) or opposite, and cast firewall with Blader.

Warrior should run a little back from firewall, and attack Blader with a skill. (So we know the distance between them is 1.8 meters)
In theory, Blader wouldnt be able to attack Warrior tru firewall (except with sword throwings).
P.S. if Warrior switches to Axes / One Handed Sword, he needs to approach Blader to 0.6 meters, meaning Blader will be able attack again.
(Most of people switch to Axes (for sudden twist) unconsciously for bleed/stun, becuase all they know is spam sudden twist -> daredevil.)


Can anyone confirm this?

Spoiler!

Attack distances

• Blade/Sword 0.6 meters
• Glavie/Spear 1.8 meters
• Bow 18 meters
  
• One-HandedSword 0.6 meters
• Two-HandedSword 1.8 meters
• Dual-Axe 0.6 meters
• Daggers 0.3 meters
• Crossbow 18 meters

EDIT: I tested it, and yes, it IS true. Warriors are ABLE to attack Bladers with firewall, without Bladers being able to attack them back, using two-handed sword (just make sure you run a bit away from Bladers, then use attack skill, so distance is 1.8 meters between two of you).

I dont have any video to prove it, but atleast I've proven it to myself, anyone is free to test it.

[Crni_Vatreni]

I think that wouldn't be the case, simply because of my experience with glaivers. Glaive and 2h Sword have the same attack distance. I had glaivers attacking me while I'm under wall. I remember retaliating.

[Nitro]

Maybe because you were meleeing all the time, so your distance was 0.6 meters (which is acceptable for you), you casted firewall, and you guys continued bashing? Attack distance was 0.6 meters.

I'll test this after server inspections with Vandango.
This occurred to me while I was watching some video, and Warrior got KDed, Blader casted firewall, and Warrior approached him using Daredevil, followed by turn rising... Blader was just standing there, and then he removed firewall, and continued attacking.

Any other opinions SRF?

[Amro]

lol thats awesome... gonna call some friends and try it
btw where is staff's attack distance? xD

[Nitro]

It says 0.6 meters on nivlam, which I dont believe is correct
Cant find correct information.

[Nitro]

bump, can anyone confirm this now after servers are back up?
I cannot login with Blader.

[JuelzSantana]

lol why would u compare a 1h weapon to a 2h weapon.

compare blade to 1h sword.
compare glavie to 2h sword.

[Nitro]

Did you even read the topic?

Do you even understand what is the point of topic?

[JuelzSantana]

Did you even read the topic?

Do you even understand what is the point of topic?

haha self own on my part >< sorry school started lol not enough sleep anyway, i can do it on vsro and try to vid it for u if u want.. but from what ive seen from when i pvp my brothers 2h, he comes as close to me as i need to get close to him. so therefore this is just my speculation, but this wont work ><

[Nitro]

You have Blader with firewall? Dont you have a Warrior/Warlock?
A video would be nice, from Blader's perspective, you mashing keys for knockdown / chains, while Warrior with 2h sword is pure meleeing you (doubleclick is fine too from Warrior's side).

[JuelzSantana]

You have Blader with firewall? Dont you have a Warrior/Warlock?
A video would be nice, from Blader's perspective, you mashing keys for knockdown / chains, while Warrior with 2h sword is pure meleeing you (doubleclick is fine too from Warrior's side).

i have a 1h/warlock, i can use my brothers 2h/cleric, and i could plvl up a blader with firewall real quick lol. so yea i can do it for u but give me till the weekend cuz i got class and i need to study ><

[Nitro]

Actually I've done it, and proved my theory (to myself atleast)

[warfire6395]

so its like the same as if ur a blader in firewall, and u KD the guy you cant stab him? but if the warrior were to have firewall and he KDed he would be able to bash/tripleswing?

[Nitro]

Well, I'm not sure what you are talking about, but I think im clear what I am saying.
Do you want me to draw it?

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Spoiler!

[/Pi]

That is one great find!

[Razorhead]

Lawl...
When u are pvping, jobbing or in FW, u sure have the time to walk 1.2meters away from ur opponent so he won't be able to attack u -.-"

[Mameluke]

Lawl...
When u are pvping, jobbing or in FW, u sure have the time to walk 1.2meters away from ur opponent so he won't be able to attack u -.-"

Were u being sarcastic? Coz i do that all the time when i pvp someone with firewall on... xbow

[ZEROberto]

so its like the same as if ur a blader in firewall, and u KD the guy you cant stab him? but if the warrior were to have firewall and he KDed he would be able to bash/tripleswing?

Pass me that joint mate.

[Nitro]

Lawl...
When u are pvping, jobbing or in FW, u sure have the time to walk 1.2meters away from ur opponent so he won't be able to attack u -.-"

Its an effective way to get rid of firewall against bladers/nukers.
If you want, waste 0.5 seconds running away and attacking back, or you can take out your wand, and waste 6 seconds destroying firewall, that will get up again second after you destroy it.

[panterr]

Woah, thx nitro. I really hate firewalls, now i only got to get past Bowers' firewall .

[Nitro]

I still dont have solution for that

Well, I do have for myself, since im Warrior/Rogue, I just distance myself, turn on XE and use distance shot, if it crits, most likely bower will be dead, or when he notices that I am attacking him, he'll remove firewall.

[panterr]

Yap. Well i'll ask around abit and see if i can find a way. Cause pvping bowers is real fun, but their firewalls just ruin it for me .

[umeras]

nice topic - finally something usefull for some ppl

P.s: gz for those mad paint skills

[chickenfeather]

+1 good pvp tactic. Sometimes it's knowing these little things that will determine who wins the pvp in an even match. It's not just mash buttons to win all the time.

[Nitro]

Well, nukers shouldnt be in firewall in first place, since they need to mix up statuses (bleed atleast - I heared it doesnt pass holyword anymore, is that true?), with KD/Stabs and nukes to achieve their full potential in PvP.

Nuker who lets Warrior spamming DD can end lying on ground fast (crit or two sometimes is enough). After snow shield ends, Nuker will most likely be dead - thats where the retreating part comes in, if Warrior retreats / switch to cleric (or whatever sub he has), that eats time for nuker to kill.


But yeah, this technique should definetally be used against bladers.

[Amro]

(bleed atleast - I heared it doesnt pass holyword anymore, is that true?)

hmm i think it does

[wantux]

(bleed atleast - I heared it doesnt pass holyword anymore, is that true?)

hmm i think it does

wrong.