WoW: Cataclysm -> New Expansion

[TS]=Hark=[TS] · Post by **[TS]=Hark=[TS]** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:43 pm

umm to the people who have problems with a NE mage conflicting with lore... try reading a book. you know the hyborn? they where origanlly NE servents to the queen azhara and very gifted mages. NE mages draw their power from the well of eternity, which was destroyed... but the magic was spread throughout all of azeroth. therefor it would make sence that NE can be mages. grrr... i cant seem to remember what they where called. but there was a society of NE socerers. so actualy lore wise... NE should be mages more then trolls. because i really dont see anywhere in their description about being canabalistic beasts that they new anything about magic. and if your saying that NE shouldnt be mages because of no more they dont allow magic dealing in the NE society anymore, well arnt NE supposed to be lvl 1 but start at 1000 years old? meaning they could have been practicing magic long before it was outlawed.

Necrobat · Post by **Necrobat** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:37 pm

[TS]=Hark=[TS] wrote:umm to the people who have problems with a NE mage conflicting with lore... try reading a book. you know the hyborn? they where origanlly NE servents to the queen azhara and very gifted mages. NE mages draw their power from the well of eternity, which was destroyed... but the magic was spread throughout all of azeroth. therefor it would make sence that NE can be mages. grrr... i cant seem to remember what they where called. but there was a society of NE socerers. so actualy lore wise... NE should be mages more then trolls. because i really dont see anywhere in their description about being canabalistic beasts that they new anything about magic. and if your saying that NE shouldnt be mages because of no more they dont allow magic dealing in the NE society anymore, well arnt NE supposed to be lvl 1 but start at 1000 years old? meaning they could have been practicing magic long before it was outlawed.

There was never saying they couldn't be. But it's against their society, so why would that change now?

Skyve · Post by **Skyve** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:07 am

Necrobat wrote:
[TS]=Hark=[TS] wrote:umm to the people who have problems with a NE mage conflicting with lore... try reading a book. you know the hyborn? they where origanlly NE servents to the queen azhara and very gifted mages. NE mages draw their power from the well of eternity, which was destroyed... but the magic was spread throughout all of azeroth. therefor it would make sence that NE can be mages. grrr... i cant seem to remember what they where called. but there was a society of NE socerers. so actualy lore wise... NE should be mages more then trolls. because i really dont see anywhere in their description about being canabalistic beasts that they new anything about magic. and if your saying that NE shouldnt be mages because of no more they dont allow magic dealing in the NE society anymore, well arnt NE supposed to be lvl 1 but start at 1000 years old? meaning they could have been practicing magic long before it was outlawed.

There was never saying they couldn't be. But it's against their society, so why would that change now?

Because everything can change. Maybe they changed the way they view certain aspects of life ,therefore allowing the studies of Arcane magic:)

[TS]=Hark=[TS] · Post by **[TS]=Hark=[TS]** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:42 am

[TS]=Hark=[TS] wrote:umm to the people who have problems with a NE mage conflicting with lore... try reading a book. you know the hyborn? they where origanlly NE servents to the queen azhara and very gifted mages. NE mages draw their power from the well of eternity, which was destroyed... but the magic was spread throughout all of azeroth. therefor it would make sence that NE can be mages. grrr... i cant seem to remember what they where called. but there was a society of NE socerers. so actualy lore wise... NE should be mages more then trolls. because i really dont see anywhere in their description about being canabalistic beasts that they new anything about magic. and if your saying that NE shouldnt be mages because of no more they dont allow magic dealing in the NE society anymore, well arnt NE supposed to be lvl 1 but start at 1000 years old? meaning they could have been practicing magic long before it was outlawed.

Necrobat · Post by **Necrobat** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:50 am

I read that part Hark, but seeing as it was outlawed tens of thousands of years ago, they would've known.

bakafish · Post by **bakafish** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 5:09 am

[TS]=Hark=[TS] wrote:umm to the people who have problems with a NE mage conflicting with lore... try reading a book. you know the hyborn? they where origanlly NE servents to the queen azhara and very gifted mages. NE mages draw their power from the well of eternity, which was destroyed... but the magic was spread throughout all of azeroth. therefor it would make sence that NE can be mages. grrr... i cant seem to remember what they where called. but there was a society of NE socerers. so actualy lore wise... NE should be mages more then trolls. because i really dont see anywhere in their description about being canabalistic beasts that they new anything about magic. and if your saying that NE shouldnt be mages because of no more they dont allow magic dealing in the NE society anymore, well arnt NE supposed to be lvl 1 but start at 1000 years old? meaning they could have been practicing magic long before it was outlawed.

Wall of text crits for over 9000!

I stopped reading at hyborn.

[SD]Master_Wong · Post by **[SD]Master_Wong** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:00 am

ExSoldier wrote:
Necrobat wrote:
[TS]=Hark=[TS] wrote:umm to the people who have problems with a NE mage conflicting with lore... try reading a book. you know the hyborn? they where origanlly NE servents to the queen azhara and very gifted mages. NE mages draw their power from the well of eternity, which was destroyed... but the magic was spread throughout all of azeroth. therefor it would make sence that NE can be mages. grrr... i cant seem to remember what they where called. but there was a society of NE socerers. so actualy lore wise... NE should be mages more then trolls. because i really dont see anywhere in their description about being canabalistic beasts that they new anything about magic. and if your saying that NE shouldnt be mages because of no more they dont allow magic dealing in the NE society anymore, well arnt NE supposed to be lvl 1 but start at 1000 years old? meaning they could have been practicing magic long before it was outlawed.

There was never saying they couldn't be. But it's against their society, so why would that change now?

Because everything can change. Maybe they changed the way they view certain aspects of life ,therefore allowing the studies of Arcane magic:)

doubt that see the big vortex in the middle of the sea that was caused by NE's using magic...hard to forget when thats swirling around, even more so if something happens starting from that point

Skyve · Post by **Skyve** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:19 pm

Talking about the Maelstrom,isn't that expansion suppose to be based on it?I thought we would get something like Water Mount and get to go in the Maelstrom to enter another world

bakafish · Post by **bakafish** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:54 pm

ExSoldier wrote:Talking about the Maelstrom,isn't that expansion suppose to be based on it?I thought we would get something like Water Mount and get to go in the Maelstrom to enter another world

Maelstrom isn't suppose to be some sort of "portal" to another world...

Skyve · Post by **Skyve** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 1:08 am

bakafish wrote:
ExSoldier wrote:Talking about the Maelstrom,isn't that expansion suppose to be based on it?I thought we would get something like Water Mount and get to go in the Maelstrom to enter another world

Maelstrom isn't suppose to be some sort of "portal" to another world...

Well who knows?It could be as no one has ever went inside of it

(I think?)

[SD]Master_Wong · Post by **[SD]Master_Wong** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 1:50 am

ExSoldier wrote:
bakafish wrote:
ExSoldier wrote:Talking about the Maelstrom,isn't that expansion suppose to be based on it?I thought we would get something like Water Mount and get to go in the Maelstrom to enter another world

Maelstrom isn't suppose to be some sort of "portal" to another world...

Well who knows?It could be as no one has ever went inside of it (I think?)

not another world at most a small area of submerged land thats it

TheSwift · Post by **TheSwift** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:17 am

Well tbh, for several reasons I doubt all that is a lie, hopefully too. So they added like 2 classes to most factions, but 1 class to Trolls? C'mon they said it themselves before that every faction is limited by a certain number of classes, so if they're adding to classes to all factions, Trolls should get 2 new classes not just 1.

Also, Blizzard officially said something about graphics, they said they didn't have intentions on working on that. So as most of you know, to allow flying in Azeroth, they need to rebuild the whole graphics which contradicts with wot they've said not a long time ago. I think I read it in the dev team's questions they used to post about each class and how they wanted to balance them in 3.2

So well, I believe it's a total lie until at least Blizzard says something about it.

Priam · Post by **Priam** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:42 am

TheSwift wrote:Well tbh, for several reasons I doubt all that is a lie, hopefully too. So they added like 2 classes to most factions, but 1 class to Trolls? C'mon they said it themselves before that every faction is limited by a certain number of classes, so if they're adding to classes to all factions, Trolls should get 2 new classes not just 1.

Also, Blizzard officially said something about graphics, they said they didn't have intentions on working on that. So as most of you know, to allow flying in Azeroth, they need to rebuild the whole graphics which contradicts with wot they've said not a long time ago. I think I read it in the dev team's questions they used to post about each class and how they wanted to balance them in 3.2

So well, I believe it's a total lie until at least Blizzard says something about it.

They will need to rebuild Azeroth anyway. The maelstrom has always been on the map. So it's nearly 100% certain to become an expansion some day. When that day comes, high level character will be spending their time there, which means they will need to be able to fly. (As it's in the ocean). Flying will mean rebuilding azeroth. It's gonna have to happen some day.

I_R_Powerpuff · Post by **I_R_Powerpuff** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 2:01 pm

ExSoldier wrote:
bakafish wrote:
ExSoldier wrote:Talking about the Maelstrom,isn't that expansion suppose to be based on it?I thought we would get something like Water Mount and get to go in the Maelstrom to enter another world

Maelstrom isn't suppose to be some sort of "portal" to another world...

Well who knows?It could be as no one has ever went inside of it (I think?)

At the center of the Maelstrom is a location known as the Eye.
When Brann Bronzebeard visited it, he said "Indeed, I saw more forms of life in the Eye than I imagined existed in all the world." because besides the various creatures he found, there are also water elementals, octopi, sharks, hydras, threshadons, frenzies. and giant squid.

http://www.wowwiki.com/Eye_(Maelstrom)

/Pi · Post by **/Pi** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 12:18 am

If those class/race combos are true, heres a nifty explanation for each of them (lore-wise): http://www.wow.com/2009/08/18/a-discuss ... binations/

/Pi · Post by **/Pi** » Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:26 pm

LOL at the Deadmines and SFK heroic dungeons.

EDIT: I couldn't stand the water effects but it looks great now!

Zypher · Post by **Zypher** » Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:33 pm

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/cataclysm/

I_R_Powerpuff · Post by **I_R_Powerpuff** » Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:25 pm

OH YEAH!
I WANT IT!

AWESOME!

TheSwift · Post by **TheSwift** » Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:27 pm

it's a rip off. Azeroth looks ugly now. Other content is fine. Class combinations suck. I don't feel like paying 30 euros for that shit. First time I get disappointed at Blizzard.

I_R_Powerpuff · Post by **I_R_Powerpuff** » Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:29 pm

TheSwift wrote:it's a rip off. Azeroth looks ugly now. Other content is fine. Class combinations suck. I don't feel like paying 30 euros for that shit. First time I get disappointed at Blizzard.

Flying. In. Azeroth.
That's EPIC.

Also that Desolace is green now

[SD]Master_Wong · Post by **[SD]Master_Wong** » Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:27 pm

i like old wow i dont see why they couldnt just go underground using the eye as a portal (its not but would be a good place to put a zone portal

TheSwift · Post by **TheSwift** » Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:54 pm

flying in azeroth would be cool especially for lvling up mining and herbalism (lower prices???) but wtf are goblins and wolves? we should get vampires for horde? c'mon there are lots of quests involving goblins, is Blizzard remaking those quests? The new class combinations is a total bullshit that doesn't make any sense. Other content is really good but the bad stuff is REALLY BAD. And if you've watched the trailer, Azeroth is gonna look bad I guess, burned and stuff.

Pure_Vigilante · Post by **Pure_Vigilante** » Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:55 pm

I want to play so bad but my parents wont pay for it and thats the only way i know so i cant play T_T

Skyve · Post by **Skyve** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 12:22 am

I can't wait to see Goblin's town

But honestly dont really like the "changes" happening to Azeroth...also feel bad for new players that are never gonna get to see the barrens,azshara and all those areas the way it was...

Also,if the Worgen's town is going to be near Silverpine(I suppose) won't that be a problem considering Undercity is really near =/

/Pi · Post by **/Pi** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 12:53 am

Worgen Racials:

Racial - Visciousness - +1% damage.
Racial - Dark Flight - +70% run speed for 10 seconds.
Racial - Abberation - Duration of Curses and Diseases reduced by 15%
Racial - Flayer - Skinning skill increased by 15.

Goblin Racials:

Racial - Best Deals Anywhere - Always receive the best discount regardless of faction.
Racial - Pack Hobgoblin - Calls your personal servant allowing you bank access for 1 minute. 30 secs cooldown.
Racial - Better Living Through Chemistry - Alchemy skill increased by 15.
Racial - Rocket Barrage - Launches your belt rockets an an enemy, dealing fire damage. 2 min cooldown.
Racial - Rocket Jump - Activates your rocket belt to jump forward. 2 min cooldown.
Racial - Time is Money - 1% increased attack and casting speed.

Source: http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=97425.0

Hell yeah hunters!

Hunter's mana is GONE!!!
Hunters now use focus, no longer care about intellect or mana regen.
Focus regenerates contunously, Steady shot improves the rate of getting focus bag.
Rogue energy comes back at a 10 / sec rate, Hunter focus comes back at 6/sec (12/sec with steady shot)
A shot costs 10 to 30 focus.
Hunters will have fewer cooldowns on abilities
Ammos will become an item, not a consumable.

Source: http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=97548.0

piootr · Post by **piootr** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 1:03 am

No fair, goblins get way better racials.

[TS]=Hark=[TS] · Post by **[TS]=Hark=[TS]** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 1:11 am

wow wtf goblins get a travling banker? Farking goblins...

Skyve · Post by **Skyve** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 1:12 am

Prophet Izaach wrote:Worgen Racials:
Racial - Visciousness - +1% damage.
Racial - Dark Flight - +70% run speed for 10 seconds.
Racial - Abberation - Duration of Curses and Diseases reduced by 15%
Racial - Flayer - Skinning skill increased by 15.

Goblin Racials:
Racial - Best Deals Anywhere - Always receive the best discount regardless of faction.
Racial - Pack Hobgoblin - Calls your personal servant allowing you bank access for 1 minute. 30 secs cooldown.
Racial - Better Living Through Chemistry - Alchemy skill increased by 15.
Racial - Rocket Barrage - Launches your belt rockets an an enemy, dealing fire damage. 2 min cooldown.
Racial - Rocket Jump - Activates your rocket belt to jump forward. 2 min cooldown.
Racial - Time is Money - 1% increased attack and casting speed.

Source: http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=97425.0

Hell yeah hunters!
Hunter's mana is GONE!!!
Hunters now use focus, no longer care about intellect or mana regen.
Focus regenerates contunously, Steady shot improves the rate of getting focus bag.
Rogue energy comes back at a 10 / sec rate, Hunter focus comes back at 6/sec (12/sec with steady shot)
A shot costs 10 to 30 focus.
Hunters will have fewer cooldowns on abilities
Ammos will become an item, not a consumable.

Source: http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=97548.0

NOT FAIR

/Pi · Post by **/Pi** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 1:37 am

They're prolly the ugliest playable race so they better get some good racials to get people to play them.

[TS]=Hark=[TS] · Post by **[TS]=Hark=[TS]** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 2:32 am

why would anyone want to be a worgan? they dont even seem to be able to change between forms... kinda lame, and their racials suck.

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