[Guide] Pure Str & Hybrid Str Bow Guide [100 cap]

[warfire6395]

y u add 144 str/int on the stats?

144/2 = 72

That's the number of int/str you would have on your gear with 6 int/str on everything. But it's actually meant to be 66 int/str because I accidentaly counted the shield too.

lol thats what i meant. but i read on one of the other pages about someone correcting you.
its a good guide and its easy to read.

[Crowley]

Ty =]

And woot 3rd page xD

[JoyFax]

Don't know if it's been said here before but...

Pure str's crit will be higher compared to HIS normal damage...

Both build's crits will be the same.

[Murtaghs]

Okay, very nice guide but 1 thing is incorrect...
One of the pro's for Hybrid Bow (you said so):
Less MP usage.

That is INCORRECT.
The skills cost the same amount of MP, but Hybrids got more MP TOTALLY!
Actually, full STR player will use less MP, because full STR usually wears Garment, which decreases MP cost by 20%...

So, in my opinion, the 'Less MP usage' pro has to go to full STR...
Other than that, nice guide

Murtaghs

[Crowley]

^Shit, meant to say Less MP Pot usage >.<

[Murtaghs]

^Shit, meant to say Less MP Pot usage >.<

Yeah, well.. not a big deal.. thats not what your guide was all about.
You did a great job pointing out the differences between Hybrid and Str, as well as skill explanation, easy to read and nice pics!
so.. very good guide in my opinion

[JoyFax]

Okay, very nice guide but 1 thing is incorrect...
One of the pro's for Hybrid Bow (you said so):
Less MP usage.

That is INCORRECT.
The skills cost the same amount of MP, but Hybrids got more MP TOTALLY!
Actually, full STR player will use less MP, because full STR usually wears Garment, which decreases MP cost by 10%...

So, in my opinion, the 'Less MP usage' pro has to go to full STR...
Other than that, nice guide

Murtaghs

Garment decreases MP cost by 20% and increases speed by 20%
What you described was the protector

[talkshowonmute]

oh man. Just a note for anyone working skills off of the screens...

I started maxing things and realized that your skill screenshots do not match the order of my skills screens. and some of the captions don't really match the ones they are next to in some of your screens either...

like on your pure str build ightning 80 it says "max it. increases speed" next to piercing force series...when it should be near "wind walk"the 4th column down not the 3rd..I don't know if anyone noticed. I just wanted to point it out.

Other than that, I realllyyyyyy like this guide. Good work!

[Murtaghs]

Garment decreases MP cost by 20% and increases speed by 20%
What you described was the protector

Okay, I guess you are right, but that still doesnt change what I said about the guide

The skills cost the same amount of MP, but Hybrids got more MP TOTALLY!
Actually, full STR player will use less MP, because full STR usually wears Garment, which decreases MP cost by 20%...

fixed.

[mAst3r]

i think to make one Full Str bow but i have question
is this build good:100 Pancheon 100Fire 100Force
or
100 Pancheon 80Fire 100 Force 20Cold

i saw in one post one man saying 80Fire will do almost the same dmg like 100Fire.

[TheDrop]

Great guide.
One thing to add though, it would be better if you had explained more on the PvP part, like strategies.
Other than that, 5*

[Flareon]

Whats with people going 80 light 20 cold.. that just sucks. Cold > light any day of the week. If you want that teleport and speed so badly get something more like 32 light 68 cold. Lvl 68 cold buffs will protect you more than 80 light buffs, seriously. Besides, as pure str why would you want light?

I don't know who made up that build, but stop spreading BS cause it's just fooling newbs.. those people could be playing better builds.

[Sjo3rd]

Tsume, I've a question!

Can you check this out for me and give your opinion (and maybe some help)?
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=116941

Thanks!

[Crowley]

Great guide.
One thing to add though, it would be better if you had explained more on the PvP part, like strategies.
Other than that, 5*

yeah, plan on getting into that. just havent really had the time ^^

Whats with people going 80 light 20 cold.. that just sucks. Cold > light any day of the week. If you want that teleport and speed so badly get something more like 32 light 68 cold. Lvl 68 cold buffs will protect you more than 80 light buffs, seriously. Besides, as pure str why would you want light?

I don't know who made up that build, but stop spreading BS cause it's just fooling newbs.. those people could be playing better builds.

cbf writing too much now, lets just say they both have their pros and cons...

[Crowley]

I'm not embarrassed to Bump my own Guide

TBH I gotta update some parts of the guide. I've been experimenting and found some interesting/better builds for Hybrid and pure str...Maybe sometime in the future

[holokaust]

I was wondering Tsume, why not be a Hybrid Bow - 85% Phy - with 100 Pacheon/Light, 80 Fire, 20 cold.

Wouldn't it be more powerfull? Cuz the phy damage bonus from fire would increase your attack, and the MAG def will be more usefull with Protector gear than Phy Def from cold.

Also i think the 20% Mana Shield is enough for all classes, if i take a 30k damage it take off 6k mana, and that's a lot per hit.

Anyone think like me? Gratz

[Crowley]

20 Cold isn't gonna work. My build is something like 85% (can't reveal my secret build) and I'm taking ice to 100. Let's just say at 85 I have a very good set/accs and still need my 35% snow shield to survive, against glaivers mostly. I'm actually thinking of rewriting the whole guide because 100 fire/ice/pacheon is probably better for hybrid.

[holokaust]

20 Cold isn't gonna work. My build is something like 85% (can't reveal my secret build) and I'm taking ice to 100. Let's just say at 85 I have a very good set/accs and still need my 35% snow shield to survive, against glaivers mostly. I'm actually thinking of rewriting the whole guide because 100 fire/ice/pacheon is probably better for hybrid.

Don't tell me that...lol

Im following your guide step by step as a hybrid one
I just tought that fire would be better than ice bcoz of damage.

Why would u choose 100fire/ice/pacheon and take off light?

[Tasdik]

More def ftw.

[MeNii]

Good guide.but have some mistakes.

bow cant tank without KBs skill. maybe if you have inverst set.
the strongest chinese [phy] skills - Glavier.
range is not exist. blader/glavier have some range skills too
maybe he have more ranger because the buff of range increasing.
more crits? depends on your weapon. but true bow build based on crits. [strong bow/anti devil]

100light 100ice 100bow - for int bow its nice not for Str
-no phy increased
-no immunity
-no mag def

100fire 100bow 80light 20cold - that build most people take it.
because its not taking alot of SP , have snow and have mag attack buff.

my favorite is Force-Bow-Fire.

hybrid? no , maybe light hybrid.
but not so heavy hybrid str. why?

cant tank without snow for long time. maybe higher damage
but crits not make any change or something to worry from him.

Pvp -> you dont need spam KB , because its annoy, and with "spam" kb you cant kill anyone, you need put KB in right times when you need them , and make skills that make damage to kill. less kb more skills - win

sorry if you dont understand exactly,because my english.

[Criticals]

Great guide , any thoughts of good pure and hybrid STR builds at the 110 cap? And which of the two will be the best at the new cap?

P.S. Could you please update the guide?

[FliiipZ]

hiyo, my friend has a question after reading your beautiful guide ;D

So is 100 pach/fire/cold better than 100 pach/light/cold for the hybrid build? and
how would i put my stats as to get 85% phys and 47% mag? 2str 1 int per level?

[bruno75]

Hi nice guide, parry ratio will help to reduce damage too
Dont need fire maestry totally
But same question, how much points into str and int to get lv 110? :/

[Crowley]

Shit, totally forgot about this. Guys, to achieve 85% balance the easiest way is probably to go pure str until 80, then pure int until 110. I forgot how I achieved my balance, I went completely random during my 30s and 40s.

And yes, after experimenting a bit 110 Pach/Fire/Cold is probably the most suited build for both pure str and hybrid str. As a bower, you really lack defense and light doesn't help so fire is probably the way to go.

I could update the guide, but only according to the ZSZC private server as I play on there mostly. The cap there is 105 but it probably won't be too different from you guys' 110 cap. I don't have a hybrid archer on there but have access to one that's capped, which also concentrates on Fire/Ice. However the mastery limit there is 360 so that allows quite a bit of freedom.

When I have time I'll rewrite this guide for 105/110 cap.

[bruno75]

Omg, jeje, Im farming nowadays

I thought being an pacheon light ice, maybe Ill change to fire cold depending what is better as a thief, waiting for ur guide updated buddy

Thx

[Crowley]

Yup yup, after my exams gonna update this to 110 cap.

[Feataler]

You say that if I wanna be hybrid, I'd put all stats into strength till level 80, then only int till level 110. What if I wanna be hybrid from the start? I doubt I'll ever get to level 100. I just wanna play a hybrid to a decent level.