History of the USA

[DumboDii]

50,000 soldiers died against 25,000 germans LOL!

Clearly you never heard of the ass kicking Russia received in the Winter War against Finland.

Indeed. Try to beat us in winter forest. Buahahahaaa.

[Stephanus]

*****
stephanus i dont agree with you on the last ting.
after the battle in 1939 japaneses never touched soviets again.
They were provoking us to see how we will answer.
in 1942 while america wasnt fully at war with japan
soviet spies told stalin japan wouldnt attack so he sent zukhov to stalingrad with 5million of troops from siberian divisions

And this was the work of one of the most coolest spies in history.
Russia knew japan went crazy and will attack USA soon.
Thats why.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_were_some ... orld_War_2

And again, dear forummates, read more history PLEASE!
Im outta here.

[Casawi]

50,000 soldiers died against 25,000 germans LOL!

Clearly you never heard of the ass kicking Russia received in the Winter War against Finland.

Indeed. Try to beat us in winter forest. Buahahahaaa.

indeed and they kicked your asses in 1944 and colonized your country
Buahahahahaha.

[DumboDii]

indeed and they kicked your asses in 1944 and colonized your country
Buahahahahaha.

They didn't colonize the country. They made us to force german troops out of Finland. Which we succeeded in.

[Casawi]

indeed and they kicked your asses in 1944 and colonized your country
Buahahahahaha.

They didn't colonize the country. They made us to force german troops out of Finland. Which we succeeded in.

uh? if they destroyed your shit army with what you would force german troops out of finland? soviets forced german troops out of finland not finland itself.Idiot.

[DumboDii]

indeed and they kicked your asses in 1944 and colonized your country
Buahahahahaha.

They didn't colonize the country. They made us to force german troops out of Finland. Which we succeeded in.

uh? if they destroyed your shit army with what you would force german troops out of finland? soviets forced german troops out of finland not finland itself.Idiot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lapland_War

Idiot.

[Casawi]

8000 deads in both camps
considering nazi germany is more advanced with technology and have more strength they could of kicked finish ass easy.
They retreated to the east front where soviets were almost reaching germany.
Idiot.
Soviets could of crush finland easy if they wanted and sweden
and norvegia
and danemark
and the south till greece
if they wanted
but allies got in like in france before we took over you .
anyway
china is the most influencing country now.
400 muslim extremists dead in north west china.
That makes me happy
muslims should go back to their poor countries.

[Stephanus]

Spoiler!

8000 deads in both camps
considering nazi germany is more advanced with technology and have more strength they could of kicked finish ass easy.
They retreated to the east front where soviets were almost reaching germany.
Idiot.
Soviets could of crush finland easy if they wanted and sweden
and norvegia
and danemark
and the south till greece
if they wanted
but allies got in like in france before we took over you .
anyway
china is the most influencing country now.
400 muslim extremists dead in north west china.
That makes me happy
muslims should go back to their poor countries.

With all due respect sir.
You Are An Idiot.
Over and out.

[DumboDii]

8000 deads in both camps
considering nazi germany is more advanced with technology and have more strength they could of kicked finish ass easy.
They retreated to the east front where soviets were almost reaching germany.
Idiot.
Soviets could of crush finland easy if they wanted and sweden
and norvegia
and danemark
and the south till greece
if they wanted
but allies got in like in france before we took over you .
anyway
china is the most influencing country now.
400 muslim extremists dead in north west china.
That makes me happy
muslims should go back to their poor countries.

Ofc German could have destroyed Finland. But like they would send whole nazi army to Finland. Finland won the Lapland war.

And Russia had hard time against Finland. Russia admits it and even Hitler admired Finnish succeed against Russia. Becouse of that Finnish soldiers were granted as a best soldiers in WWII.

[Casawi]

finland were obeying the soviets when soviets told them to dismobilize they did.
Wich means they got colonized owned by the soviets. finish soldiers best in WWII? did finland was even in WWII? loool.
Not cuz nazi germany colonized you means you were in WWII idiot.
anyway im done cya
loozface.
8000deads in a battle and he call that something while soviets did almost 2million deads in both camps in the biggest battle in the world rofl.
like you say in your name
Your a dumb odii.

[DumboDii]

finland were obeying the soviets when soviets told them to dismobilize they did.
Wich means they got colonized owned by the soviets. finish soldiers best in WWII? did finland was even in WWII? loool.
Not cuz nazi germany colonized you means you were in WWII idiot.
anyway im done cya
loozface.
8000deads in a battle and he call that something while soviets did almost 2million deads in both camps in the biggest battle in the world rofl.
like you say in your name
Your a dumb odii.

Erm. All wars in Finland have been becouse of WWII so yeah we were in WWII. I guess Sweden is the only country in Europe who wasn't involved.

And you can check from various sources that Finnish soldiers have been "voted" as best soldiers in WWII. (Soldiers as individuals)

And we were obeying USSR just becouse of the peace agreement.

I know my own history. How about you go study some too.

[Casawi]

finland were obeying the soviets when soviets told them to dismobilize they did.
Wich means they got colonized owned by the soviets. finish soldiers best in WWII? did finland was even in WWII? loool.
Not cuz nazi germany colonized you means you were in WWII idiot.
anyway im done cya
loozface.
8000deads in a battle and he call that something while soviets did almost 2million deads in both camps in the biggest battle in the world rofl.
like you say in your name
Your a dumb odii.

Erm. All wars in Finland have been becouse of WWII so yeah we were in WWII. I guess Sweden is the only country in Europe who wasn't involved.

And you can check from various sources that Finnish soldiers have been "voted" as best soldiers in WWII. (Soldiers as individuals)

And we were obeying USSR just becouse of the peace agreement.

I know my own history. How about you go study some too.

Finland was obeying them because they were afraid of them after the major kick ass in 1944 that soviets almost took over whole finland.
thats why finland ob eyed us not because of peace agreement.

[Mr.Ganji]

8000 deads in both camps
considering nazi germany is more advanced with technology and have more strength they could of kicked finish ass easy.
They retreated to the east front where soviets were almost reaching germany.
Idiot.
Soviets could of crush finland easy if they wanted and sweden
and norvegia
and danemark
and the south till greece
if they wanted
but allies got in like in france before we took over you .
anyway
china is the most influencing country now.
400 muslim extremists dead in north west china.
That makes me happy
muslims should go back to their poor countries.

Actually, China should go back to their own country. Invading and conquering foreign territories and then claiming it as your own is ridiculous. After which you attempt to rub out an entire ethnic race by deliberately pouring your own Han race into it. Don't try and make the Uigher/Han conflict a religious one by labeling them as "Muslim extremists". At its core, its a subtle war for independence. China's blatant lack of respect for other cultures and nations only shows your true colors.

[DumboDii]

Finland was obeying them because they were afraid of them after the major kick ass in 1944 that soviets almost took over whole finland.
thats why finland ob eyed us not because of peace agreement.

Oh God damn you are ignorant idiot shouting your own conclusions. How about you

[Goobronicus]

anyway im done cya

Hi, I heard you said you were done making racist remarks and claiming that vasts sums of people should die just because of your beliefs. I took the initiative to file a report for you so that you won't have to visit this "ignorant" forum section anymore. Have a nice time in China

Sincerely,

<3 The portion of SRF that probably fucking hates you

And to think, I was only going to report you and not post a reply. Damn, idiots always ruining my plans.

[Mr.Ganji]

You can't exactly compare an embargo to a full-scale assault on enemy territory. Japan was wrong from the beginning - you can't invade and exploit countries with US interests in them and expect to be left alone. Not to mention commit dirty crimes against humanity in the process.

If there is a war going on and country is claiming to be neutral that country shouldn't blockade and harass another countries ships. Thats not neutral. "US interest" is a vague and meaningless term, the US is interested in alot of things so did the Japanese. We also committed war crimes as well. Historians agree that the US aggravated Japan into an all out attack to enter the war then did nothing even as they were warned several times that the Japanese were approaching. We were asking for and wanted pearl harbor as an excuse to persuade the american people to enter the war. Japan didn't engage us without provocation...

It is neutral. We weren't financing Japan's enemies (China) or supplying them with weapons. And America's blockade and embargo was a response to Japan's war crimes against China, not a response to Japan's actual invasion of China.

US interests (rather British) interests in China stem from British colonization of it as well as the untapped market that we were trying to explore. It was economic - Japanese interests were of colonization as well, but in reality they were actually carrying out an eradication - there's a reason why historians call the Japanese war in China the "Asian Holocaust". When you compare the two "interests" together, clearly its not "meaningless" as you say it is.

I agree that American response to warning signs of an attack on an American base in the Pacific was rather shady. But the attack was still an attack, and it was their first move.

Both sides committed war crimes. But its agreed that Axis ones were more heinous. And Allied "war crimes" were sporadic - Nazi and Japanese ones were systematic, and on top of that they carried out genocide.

[Casawi]

8000 deads in both camps
considering nazi germany is more advanced with technology and have more strength they could of kicked finish ass easy.
They retreated to the east front where soviets were almost reaching germany.
Idiot.
Soviets could of crush finland easy if they wanted and sweden
and norvegia
and danemark
and the south till greece
if they wanted
but allies got in like in france before we took over you .
anyway
china is the most influencing country now.
400 muslim extremists dead in north west china.
That makes me happy
muslims should go back to their poor countries.

Actually, China should go back to their own country. Invading and conquering foreign territories and then claiming it as your own is ridiculous. After which you attempt to rub out an entire ethnic race by deliberately pouring your own Han race into it. Don't try and make the Uigher/Han conflict a religious one by labeling them as "Muslim extremists". At its core, its a subtle war for independence. China's blatant lack of respect for other cultures and nations only shows your true colors.

And us ppl should go back to europe every country in vaded territories
every country have negatives points.
Russia invaded millions of kilometers so ? no one should say that to other countreis because every country in vaded other tribes territories

[Reise]

It is neutral. We weren't financing Japan's enemies (China) or supplying them with weapons. And America's blockade and embargo was a response to Japan's war crimes against China, not a response to Japan's actual invasion of China.

Actually I think we did finance China a bit after the fact, but you're right.

[cpinney]

bye troll.

[Shadow]

No shadow they don't tell us that in school. There's a huge emphasis on "WE" though. As in, without the US it is doubtful the world would have fared well against Nazi Germany. And it's true. Russia turned it around in Stalingrad, the UK held off during the Battle of Britain and Africa, and that's all with the US's aid in the background. Imagine if it wasn't there at all.

The nukes were also 100% avoidable, but Japan decided to call our bluff.

Thanks for the straight answer. Of course the US' effort is not to be underestimated, but one has to be careful with talking like "we saved the world from hitler". Bet the people who actually fought and died in the war would turn in their graves...

Hey by the way, does anyone remember that Pearl harbor thread and the troll guy, was he justkill or something like that... Casawi kind of reminded me of him. Same kind of extreme arrogance and ignorance, eh?

[the.unseen.]

finland were obeying the soviets when soviets told them to dismobilize they did.
Wich means they got colonized owned by the soviets. finish soldiers best in WWII? did finland was even in WWII? loool.
Not cuz nazi germany colonized you means you were in WWII idiot.
anyway im done cya
loozface.
8000deads in a battle and he call that something while soviets did almost 2million deads in both camps in the biggest battle in the world rofl.
like you say in your name
Your a dumb odii.

Erm. All wars in Finland have been becouse of WWII so yeah we were in WWII. I guess Sweden is the only country in Europe who wasn't involved.

And you can check from various sources that Finnish soldiers have been "voted" as best soldiers in WWII. (Soldiers as individuals)

And we were obeying USSR just becouse of the peace agreement.

I know my own history. How about you go study some too.

I am sorry but i gotta post this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juno_Beach
Canada owns in wars.

[Draquish]

Omaha beach > all.

[the.unseen.]

Omaha beach > all.

It's just to bad no one got as far as Canada did on Juno.

[Shadow]

Omaha beach > all.

It's just to bad no one got as far as Canada did on Juno.

Are we starting the discussion "my grandfather was/is tougher than yours"?
This thread has deteriorated.

[cezzy]

Omaha beach > all.

It's just to bad no one got as far as Canada did on Juno.

Are we starting the discussion "my grandfather was/is tougher than yours"?
This thread has deteriorated.

Every1 is doing this till start of that topic. i wonder wtf are every1 thinking... (should i start b1tching about my country too? )

[F-22]

No shadow they don't tell us that in school. There's a huge emphasis on "WE" though. As in, without the US it is doubtful the world would have fared well against Nazi Germany. And it's true. Russia turned it around in Stalingrad, the UK held off during the Battle of Britain and Africa, and that's all with the US's aid in the background. Imagine if it wasn't there at all.

The nukes were also 100% avoidable, but Japan decided to call our bluff.

the us was nothing
even japan if they didnt have a dumb emperor they would invaded us if they wanted,germany could of farked up us in matter of months just trow 10 brigades ot tiger tanks and they will conquer whole us with no difficulty.
The soviets made the effort
the us made no effort.
Britain made effort to of bombing the german industry and killing some in hamburg and some in other cities.us made no effort.
they just debarqued they were 50,000soldiers.
170,000 in all from them Britishs & canadians.
they freed france(it took them 3 countries to make france free while soviets defeated germany alone.
The soviet industry would have made it the soviet industry was localised in far east.
They produced 20,000t -34 in the war.
They had a war economical situation only trucks and food from us were used.
without the us.
We would of made it.
The us a country that dosnt even have a history cant save anyone.
Yet they got ass kicked by viets koreans arabs insurgents with Ak-47 & RPG's
and the turning point of ww2 was in stalingrad.
and the us didnt made battle of stalingrad.
Second turning b attle was kursk and last turning battle was some battle in east germany i dont remember the name were they were 100,000 germans vs 2.000.000 soviet soldiers

you're such an idiot. are you writing in paragraph form or a list?

Actually, China should go back to their own country. Invading and conquering foreign territories and then claiming it as your own is ridiculous. After which you attempt to rub out an entire ethnic race by deliberately pouring your own Han race into it. Don't try and make the Uigher/Han conflict a religious one by labeling them as "Muslim extremists". At its core, its a subtle war for independence. China's blatant lack of respect for other cultures and nations only shows your true colors.

just like what the chinese are doing in vietnam right now.

[Rainigul]

There was nothing ignorant about the video. So the NRA and gun owners are cast in a bad light. Thats a shame but every point made was factual. The US has a history of turning its fears into violence and guns played a major role, thats just the ugly truth.

I never said that the video had inaccuracies (I dont know what reise is talking about either). My beef with the video is that its made to REPRESENT American history. Its completely biased with the intention of painting the USA as a violent, lawless wild where bigotry is accepted and racism embraced. Thats obviously not a fair way to judge the United States. Whats ignorant is not the video, but the person(s) behind it.

I honestly don't see the bias at all, it is indeed based on facts, you admitted to it yourself, the only "bias" I can see (& it's not a bias, it's a generalization) is that all of the deeds done by americans are given the backing of fear, but I'd say that's pretty fuckin' true.
Also, whoever said everyone was scared by 9/11, that's Farking bullshit, i wasn't. I don't understand why everyone was so freaked out, did they think they were invulnerable or something? Goddamn, I thought it was common knowledge shit like that could happen to anyone. That's like being mugged and starting a small battle because of it.

P.S. I didn't read this whole thread, just wanted to throw in my 2 cents of the first page.

[Ryoko]

Some people need to move out. Seriously.

USA kicks ass. I the USA.

Spoiler!

(thx france)

[F-22]

Some people need to move out. Seriously.

USA kicks ass. I the USA.

Spoiler!

(thx france)

i agree

[Ryoko]

AS far as the VIDEO itself, a while back people make a film all about muslims, using factual information, real pictures, real movie scenes, real quotes from the qurr... qu... book.

And it made them look terrible.

Knowing the OTL of course, to THAT video they said it was just poorly portrayed, biased, and unfairly designed to make people look bad. In fact it hardly got a "shrug" response. So you would expect the same exact thing for this topic; however it seems the haters have came out of the woodwork.

And of course, knowing this OTL I prolly get called out as ignorant for not being able to spell something pertaining to a religion I dont believe in, AND for not caring enough to google it.

Plenty of nations have violent histories, ALL of them have dirty laundry, lets go emo over it.