Need Help : Future of the Int

[Panu]

As this new update is on its way to Fembria; either way i need to delvl something from my build. Theres no point in making a new character since i have .. 840k sp or so.

-Build (atm) : Spear/Sword/Fire/Light ..all at 60

So i have three options regarding my build ... as said before, i will either delvl or add a mastery

-Spear/Fire/Cold
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-Sword/Light/Cold
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-Sword/Spear/Cold
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I know these videos show 100cap but i will base my build off of them, do keep that in mind.
So my actual question is which build would you guys prefer?

[Strwarrior]

go sword .. why? (THIS IS MY OPINION)
1st (Status):
Bleed
Dull
Stun
Fear
Division
impotent
(1more that i dont remember.. xD)
2nd (Advantages):
wearing a shield
more def
blocks

wearing a sword
Kd
Stabs

i say.. 2nd

~Edit:
im so sad im not a pure int , i hope i can fix this.
im not FF .. but i really hate making new chars.. so i will stay with mine..
~2nd Edit: OMG I FORGOT BLEED.. fixed

[Jaapii]

sword/light/cold
spear just has too little defence
and there will come no statuses like bleed, division,.. with this update.

[Kirkaldi]

Anything but no dual weapon.

[NameChange]

I know it's not on list, I picked Sword/light/cold for list but Sword/Fire/Cold will nuke harder then light nuker, just not as mobile.

[iztupido]

I know it's not on list, I picked Sword/light/cold for list but Sword/Fire/Cold will nuke harder then light nuker, just not as mobile.

this will be a fail, i can garantee you that. 1st u'll have to buy drugs if u want to move faster. 2nd u wont have more dmg from piercing force series. (just my opinion tho)

[NameChange]

I know it's not on list, I picked Sword/light/cold for list but Sword/Fire/Cold will nuke harder then light nuker, just not as mobile.

this will be a fail, i can garantee you that. 1st u'll have to buy drugs if u want to move faster. 2nd u wont have more dmg from piercing force series. (just my opinion tho)

You will have more damage with the fire nukes, you will also have more then 1 powerful nuke, moving drugs are not that big of a deal really. Well not to me.

[Strwarrior]

I know it's not on list, I picked Sword/light/cold for list but Sword/Fire/Cold will nuke harder then light nuker, just not as mobile.

this will be a fail, i can garantee you that. 1st u'll have to buy drugs if u want to move faster. 2nd u wont have more dmg from piercing force series. (just my opinion tho)

no thats not ur opinion.. thats the fact.
try to go with fire.. and u will fail so hard.
btw, are u namechange from epvp too? xD

[NameChange]

I know it's not on list, I picked Sword/light/cold for list but Sword/Fire/Cold will nuke harder then light nuker, just not as mobile.

this will be a fail, i can garantee you that. 1st u'll have to buy drugs if u want to move faster. 2nd u wont have more dmg from piercing force series. (just my opinion tho)

no thats not ur opinion.. thats the fact.
try to go with fire.. and u will fail so hard.
btw, are u namechange from epvp too? xD

No I'm from Canada, I see you must have already tried the build to know if its good or not. You will nuke harder then a light Nuker. Go look in Character Skills section.

[iztupido]

namechange i actually have fire am fire 90 light 70 cold 70 heuk 70, dunno what to do now, prolly dlvling something to put heuk @ 90 (full int)

[Strwarrior]

eh.. i mean elitepvpers .. there is some1 same name as urs.. any ways.

ok see
1st, the fire have no mg attack buff (increase)
while lvl 90 light have 18% mg attack increase

2nd, light gives u perry ratio, fire give u mg def buff , and u already have alot of it(pure int)

3rd, u will almost hit the same.. if not MORE then a fire nuker.. cuz the light nukes have high range
like.. let me explain it so easy

lvl 50 light nuke..
263~489 mg att power

Fire nuke lvl 58..
281~468 mg att power (and this is 8 lvls higher "tree lvl i mean").


so if u lvl the light nuke it would be more) im saying this cuz there is no higher nukes in psro , and with the mg attack power increase buff= huh,want fire? no thnx.

fire is really not worth lvling it up.. while u already have something better.

~Edit: so no1 will say this, fire imbue is stronger then light one.. but not much diff.

[Blindfire]

this will be a fail, i can garantee you that. 1st u'll have to buy drugs if u want to move faster. 2nd u wont have more dmg from piercing force series. (just my opinion tho)

Light Nuke - 300% +18%
Fire Nuke - 330%

Light Imbue @ level 98 - Mag. Atk. Power 682~1267
Fire Imbue @ level 98 - Mag. Atk. Power 860~1484


Fire wins.

[Strwarrior]

this will be a fail, i can garantee you that. 1st u'll have to buy drugs if u want to move faster. 2nd u wont have more dmg from piercing force series. (just my opinion tho)

Light Nuke - 300% +18%
Fire Nuke - 330%

Light Imbue @ level 98 - Mag. Atk. Power 682~1267
Fire Imbue @ level 98 - Mag. Atk. Power 860~1484


Fire wins.

what fire nuke is that? btw.. there is some1 posted that (the % isnt power.. its casting time)

[Blindfire]

That is hellfire I believe, I took the numbers from iSRO a month or two ago.

[Strwarrior]

ok wait.. both of those are lvl 100

Fire
1425 ~ 2375(330%)

light
1330 ~ 2470(300%)

@ the start i though that % was dmg or something like that.. but after i saw some tests.. and a proof (quote from JM) that the % is not dmg.. its the time that the skill take (from start to end)
so it have notthing to do with dmg, its just fire take more time.


lvl 100 imbues

light
723~1344 (100%)

fire
912~1520 (100%)

yea.. fire is stronger, but the light mg buff would fix that and may give more dmg
did i forget anything? XD

[Blindfire]

I thought the % was the multiplier based on your character mag/phy attack power.

[Strwarrior]

I thought the % was the multiplier based on your character mag/phy attack power.

yea i though that too.. but there was some people talking about fire and light (same thing we are talking about)
and they quoted from jm , with image that % is casting time :S ,i tried to search the post but found notthing.. it was long time ago xD

[ltsune]

Of course it will be Bicheon/Light/Cold

[Panu]

Impressive guys. Its safe to say after i even looked into these builds and your guys' support, i'll go with Sword/Light/Cold. just need to delvl two trees now lul

[Amarisa]

nuuuuuu! go dual nao be like me i pawn

[Strwarrior]

nuuuuuu! go dual nao be like me i pawn

nevar

[PatrokloS]

I thought the % was the multiplier based on your character mag/phy attack power.

It works as follows:

lets say your basic attack hits 1k, with using imbue. Then if you use lightning nuke, lets say it adds 600 magic damage, then basically what happens: the nuke damage gets added to your base damage, and that total number gets multiplied by the % (so times 3 basically). I tried this out with numberous attacks, because i was curious, and yes it also mulitplies your imbue and basic damage. WHich means that a 330% fire nuke compared to the 300% lightning nuke will:

ok wait.. both of those are lvl 100

Fire
1425 ~ 2375(330%)

light
1330 ~ 2470(300%)

@ the start i though that % was dmg or something like that.. but after i saw some tests.. and a proof (quote from JM) that the % is not dmg.. its the time that the skill take (from start to end)
so it have notthing to do with dmg, its just fire take more time.


lvl 100 imbues

light
723~1344 (100%)

fire
912~1520 (100%)

yea.. fire is stronger, but the light mg buff would fix that and may give more dmg
did i forget anything? XD

lightning nuke, lightning imbue, max damage: (2470+1344)*3 = 11442
fire nuke, fire imbue, max damage: (2375+1520)*3.3 = 12853.5

These numbers are not the actual damage, but they give a good indication of what you can expect: fire will hit harder than lightning.

Now, back to the original question, does this compensate for the 18% magical attack loss of not taking lightning? just multiply the numbers for lightning by 1.18: 1.18*11442 = 13501,56

Dropping lightning doesnt seem very smart now, especially since the max bonus magical damage will be 22% at 120cap!

[CloudStrider]

When I first started playing SRO I liked this buildd (Bich/Light/Cold).

But it just sooooooo cookie cutter it's unbelievable, like bow has a lot of builds, (Pach/Force/Fire/Cold or Pach/Fire/Light/Cold with lots of combinations on both) and even spear has more then one completely, unquestionable build.

I mean S/S is good, and L/C is good, but it's GOING to be the most played build by far.

I don't know if originality counts for anything according to you, if it doesn't then Bich/Light/Cold is a good build.

If anyone cares, I personally think the most played builds after the update will be -

1. S/S - Light/Cold (will be first by a huge ratio)
2. Glaive - Fire/Light
4. Spear - Light/Cold (lots of people love this build/weapon)
5. Blader - Fire/Light (Not sure about this, I see quite a bit of bladers around)
?. Bow - Fire/Light (This could be be placed anywhere IMO)

[Strwarrior]

When I first started playing SRO I liked this buildd (Bich/Light/Cold).

But it just sooooooo cookie cutter it's unbelievable, like bow has a lot of builds, (Pach/Force/Fire/Cold or Pach/Fire/Light/Cold with lots of combinations on both) and even spear has more then one completely, unquestionable build.

I mean S/S is good, and L/C is good, but it's GOING to be the most played build by far.

I don't know if originality counts for anything according to you, if it doesn't then Bich/Light/Cold is a good build.

If anyone cares, I personally think the most played builds after the update will be -

1. S/S - Light/Cold (will be first by a huge ratio)
2. Glaive - Fire/Light
4. Spear - Light/Cold (lots of people love this build/weapon)
5. Blader - Fire/Light (Not sure about this, I see quite a bit of bladers around)
?. Bow - Fire/Light (This could be be placed anywhere IMO)

in isro venus there was ALOT of euros , in chinese there was pure int s/s (full force) (but most of them cahnged to L/C)

in psro , almost every 50 player there is only 1 s/s , they are just rare.. spears and glaviers are number1 here , bows and s/s come in last ,
s/s L/C are rare like bladers.. xD

[CloudStrider]

I think right nao in ecSRO public, the most played are Glaive and Spear (like you said) with a close second being S/S.

If you round up ten random people it would be - G/S/G/G/S/Sw/B/S/Bl/G

I still think S/S would become more popular by A LOT though.

[Strwarrior]

I think right nao in ecSRO public, the most played are Glaive and Spear (like you said) with a close second being S/S.

If you round up ten random people it would be - G/S/G/G/S/Sw/B/S/Bl/G

I still think S/S would become more popular by A LOT though.

yes.. when snow shield come people will start plvling bows and s/s

[Amarisa]

boy do i feel special! i'm the only dual wep str hybrid in town lol..... if they raise cap to 100 im going 100 blade glavie ice. most of the time when i pvp iv pvped with and without buffs and i can still open a can of whop ass on them. so going pure ice should not effect this (but give me more phy def XD) plus ill have snow shield and me being hybrid will want this.

[Strwarrior]

boy do i feel special! i'm the only dual wep str hybrid in town lol..... if they raise cap to 100 im going 100 blade glavie ice. most of the time when i pvp iv pvped with and without buffs and i can still open a can of whop ass on them. so going pure ice should not effect this (but give me more phy def XD) plus ill have snow shield and me being hybrid will want this.

wait wait.. are u serious? u will use high lvl snow shield? trust me thats waste of sp, if u use a snow shield higher then 30% u will run out of mp in secs, add ice.. its ok.. thats ur choice.. but NEVER use high lvl snow shield

[CloudStrider]

True, even as hybrid, you will lose MP too fast.

[Strwarrior]

and btw.. something important u must know , 90% of ints death (while using snowshield) is because that they ran out of mp.. so snow shield is no more working, and they die, so even for int hybrids and maybe pure ints, they run out of mp by crits,nukes, so it would really be hard for u

EDIT: 2nd video .. 1st pvp, when he killed the bower
normal dmg using that skill was 10k (as i saw)
then he used that chain (the one that add division "maybe" )
then he used that Kd skill and made 21k dmg to him..
the question is, is division that MUCH effective?
10k>>21k , its like zerking.. xD any info?

2nd Edit:
well.. nvm.. i found the answer.. xD

As a blader I would do 5-6k on knockdown skills against other players. With Bleed I'd do 7-8k and with division I would do 8-8.5k. With both on I would do 10-11k.

by OTG