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I love how China and Russia are bluffing and saying they will stop trading with the US if Israel attacks Iran. IF they do then all 3 of our economies will collapse and in turn so will the world economy because China and the US are the twin engines of the world.
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Funny they tell us not to get envolved, but then they say for us to stop it...im not going any deeper than that so dont bother.
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well if this happens I hope you all have your passports in order. I'll be vacationing somewhere less disaster prone :D
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People with nukes don't launch them at other people with nukes.

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Destroying our earth with nukes is awesome.

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Ryoko wrote:Destroying our earth with nukes is awesome.
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Blindfire wrote:People with nukes don't launch them at other people with nukes.

yeah, it's just like the balance of terror during the Cold War
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Ryoko wrote:We need a mass geological event causing most of the middle east to sink under sea level. This will resolve most of the worlds dramatic affairs and cut us off from our oil dependency, forcing us to engineer a new power source.

Of course, this might mean the rest of the world will be covered in sulferic gas and acid rain, and blocked from sunlight for weeks but we'll manage.

Plates move about an inch a year, maybe in a million years that region will have been swallowed anyway.
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Morgoth wrote:
Blindfire wrote:People with nukes don't launch them at other people with nukes.

yeah, it's just like the balance of terror during the Cold War


People with nukes shouldnt launch them at anybody, since everybody has allies with more nukes.

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Ryoko wrote:
Morgoth wrote:
Blindfire wrote:People with nukes don't launch them at other people with nukes.

yeah, it's just like the balance of terror during the Cold War


People with nukes shouldnt launch them at anybody, since everybody has allies with more nukes.
^this. Iran doesn't have nukes yet, but it's friends do.

I seriously doubt Israel will do anything, especially not right now with the present situation in Iran. They may be manuevering, they may not. I don't trust your source, since I can't verify this info anywhere else.
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Although they have proven that they are a resilient bunch of people. 7 day war anyone?

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Right now Israeli cant do shit without American support. Hence why Russia and China
go and tell America and not Israeli to not go to war with Iran.
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Wait, why do China and Russia care?
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Pally wrote:Wait, why do China and Russia care?


Cause Iran called for blackup.
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lol twin engine. The new world power is China, enough said. Being communist country they can subject their people to a certain level of living that most US citizens would not be able to tolerate. If China cuts off trade with the US you can bet it will hurt us ALOT more than it would hurt them. Israel's been a b*tch ever since the nation was formed causing a shit ton more problems than it solved. I hope they do attack Iran and i hope China and Russia cut off trade with us because it would really show the world what a fragile state the US is in right now.
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wth, every time i read one of these stories it's always from some "no-name" site i've never heard of before. yeah plus iran will probably crumble with this civil dispute so problem solved.
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I hope Israel does attack Iran.

It'll give us a reason to finally cut the umbilical. Then on the other hand I doubt Obama has the stones to do something like that.

Also, Russia and China are more than big enough world players to have an impact if they decide to stop trading with us. I just find it odd that they both seem to have "teamed up" in this decision. They aren't exactly the best of pals.
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XemnasXD wrote:Israel's been a b*tch ever since the nation was formed causing a shit ton more problems than it solved. I hope they do attack Iran and i hope China and Russia cut off trade with us because it would really show the world what a fragile state the US is in right now.

Israel in of it's self hasn't caused many problems. It's the reaction of Israel being in existence that causes nations like Iran and Jordon too b!tch and whine about it. Which causes the problems.

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good thing, i was getting bored :roll:

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Reise wrote:I hope Israel does attack Iran.

It'll give us a reason to finally cut the umbilical. Then on the other hand I doubt Obama has the stones to do something like that.

Also, Russia and China are more than big enough world players to have an impact if they decide to stop trading with us. I just find it odd that they both seem to have "teamed up" in this decision. They aren't exactly the best of pals.


Maybe Joymax changed to chinese owners. That would explain the rSRO and their sudden friendship.
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Reise wrote:I hope Israel does attack Iran.

It'll give us a reason to finally cut the umbilical. Then on the other hand I doubt Obama has the stones to do something like that.

Also, Russia and China are more than big enough world players to have an impact if they decide to stop trading with us. I just find it odd that they both seem to have "teamed up" in this decision. They aren't exactly the best of pals.
The Chinese and Russians have consistently teamed up together to vote against U.S. sponsored Security Council proposals requiring unanimous consent. They have a common 'enemy' so to speak, in the U.S., unless you forgot who was on the other side of the Cold War? See Wilson's Ghost by MacNamara for a good recollection of what the Cold War means to present day politics, and the ramifications of U.S. actions on the international stage vis a vis Chinese and Russian relations. Basically, when the Cold War ended we proclaimed ourselves the 'winner' and have been parading around snubbing the other 'super powers' whenever we have the chance. He's not quite as blunt as I am, but it's a really good read nonetheless.
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XemnasXD wrote:Israel's been a b*tch ever since the nation was formed causing a shit ton more problems than it solved. I hope they do attack Iran and i hope China and Russia cut off trade with us because it would really show the world what a fragile state the US is in right now.

Israel in of it's self hasn't caused many problems. It's the reaction of Israel being in existence that causes nations like Iran and Jordon too b!tch and whine about it. Which causes the problems.


Israel is, was, and will always be, a slap in the face to every middle eastern nation and giant phallic symbol for US international power. Its saying "Look we decide to make a nation in your backyard by taking away land from your neighbors and theres nothing you can do about it because we gave them enough weapons to kick your ass from here to Kingdom Come." Saying that the nation itself hasn't caused many problems ignores the social, political, and ecomic changes that resulted in the very creation of the nation which was sparked by the Jews rebelling against the established gov't of the country they more or less invaded. Don't get me wrong im not anti-semetic at all, Jews actually rank better than modern Muslims or Christians in my book but facts are facts and they've spent the last 6 decades flouting their power and growing in strength while the US send billions of dollars to them to continue to fight this cold war. Its ridiculous.

Reise is right, cut the cord already. They've got legs, guns, tanks, and fighter jets, they can stand up on their own just fine. Theres no need for the US to get dragged into yet another pointless rabble just because Israel wants to prove a point there too much shit going on all over the place for something major to get started now....

As for China and Russia, they follow the enemy of my enemy is my friend policy and have been for some time now. They may not like each other but they like western bullies alot less and both of them have been slandered and made to look like the enemy in the US, makes sense they'd do the same to us.
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XemnasXD wrote:lol twin engine. The new world power is China, enough said. Being communist country they can subject their people to a certain level of living that most US citizens would not be able to tolerate. If China cuts off trade with the US you can bet it will hurt us ALOT more than it would hurt them. Israel's been a b*tch ever since the nation was formed causing a shit ton more problems than it solved. I hope they do attack Iran and i hope China and Russia cut off trade with us because it would really show the world what a fragile state the US is in right now.


Americans are some of the biggest spenders ever and most of what we buy comes from China. I wonder how China will fair when they cut off their best customer that makes up most of it's trading revenue.

I agree Israel is a bitch, it's right up there with N.Korea.
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XemnasXD wrote:lol twin engine. The new world power is China, enough said. Being communist country they can subject their people to a certain level of living that most US citizens would not be able to tolerate. If China cuts off trade with the US you can bet it will hurt us ALOT more than it would hurt them. Israel's been a b*tch ever since the nation was formed causing a shit ton more problems than it solved. I hope they do attack Iran and i hope China and Russia cut off trade with us because it would really show the world what a fragile state the US is in right now.


Americans are some of the biggest spenders ever and most of what we buy comes from China. I wonder how China will fair when they cut off their best customer that makes up most of it's trading revenue.

I agree Israel is a bitch, it's right up there with N.Korea.


That works both ways you know. Americans rely heavily on chinese goods. We're already in a recession, people are scarping the bottom to make ends meet and that means buying cheaper and cheaper products that come from where? Oh yeah, China. If china cuts off trade Wal-mart, Target, Sears, JC Penny, etc basically every store that sells a mostly "made in china" stuff will be out of business. The business go under, jobs are lost, the economy gets even worse. Im sure any losses china sustains they'll be able to deal with, like i said, being communist means they can lay down the law whenever they want and seeing as chinese people's standards of living are so low anyway the loss of the american market will hurt their general population alot less than it would hurt ours. There upper management already have a mentality that they are willing to sustain loses for the greater good, something our industry lacks.

The Chinese gov't fixed their economic problem with guess what, a stimulus package. They gave the corporations billions of dollars and solved it right away, they recognize this is only a temporary fix but my point is they did they same thing we did and they are seeing much better results. The difference here is a mentality and way of life. They have a simple way of life and a loyal corporate mentality, we have a lavish way of life and "take what you can" corporate mentality. This won't be a stalemate, if they decide to go through with this we will suffer far more than they will.
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lavapockets wrote:The Chinese and Russians have consistently teamed up together to vote against U.S. sponsored Security Council proposals requiring unanimous consent. They have a common 'enemy' so to speak, in the U.S., unless you forgot who was on the other side of the Cold War? See Wilson's Ghost by MacNamara for a good recollection of what the Cold War means to present day politics, and the ramifications of U.S. actions on the international stage vis a vis Chinese and Russian relations. Basically, when the Cold War ended we proclaimed ourselves the 'winner' and have been parading around snubbing the other 'super powers' whenever we have the chance. He's not quite as blunt as I am, but it's a really good read nonetheless.


Yes, I know this.

That doesn't mean they don't hate each other's guts either. China and Russia are pretty much constantly having minor conflicts. Most notably in the sea trade between them.
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You guys seem to forget that the global economy is in fact, global. The world powers are connected to each other, their economies feed each others. Everyone would be hurt by it, including them. Its not like you can shut someone off when you rely on them for trade. Like it or not their are countries who's economy is attached to the US, same is true for the US.
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i call bullshit on this story, theres nothing about it on google news, or anything on cnn about it.
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Both source 404'd, I was just gonna say what cpi said.

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