Lil Wayne?

[antics]

^fckkkkkk they ruined rap


these guys are actually good
the grouch "artsy"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCHV2I_Xog0

or
Atmosphere - "You"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8zwE3qkhTA

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Eminem, nuff said.


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And his more recent freestyle. (3rd verse is the hottest)


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*Hint* listen after 3 mins... hottest shit you'll hear.

This dude has more skill than any rapper dead or alive.

**** lil wayne, listen to biggie, tupac, nas, I would say jay z but hes a f@ggot.

[De La Sole]

AND YOU GUYS SHOULD LISTEN TO THE REAL SH#T.

You failed to deliver. What is the real shit?

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[Vinyl]

STRAIGHT OUTTA COMPTON!

Eazy

[MixTape]

Pfft, listen to real rap.
Gang Starr

Spoiler!

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Dj Quick and Eazy muthaphuckking E

Spoiler!

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This shit is not about a whack rapper who is rapping about sucking a lollipop with his robot friend.

[C1ockwork]

yay for songs that actually have somewhat of a meaning/substance.

[CrimsonNuker]

I like whatever sounds summer-y.

[Reise]

Eminem, nuff said.

This dude has more skill than any rapper dead or alive.

lol

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Eminem, nuff said.

This dude has more skill than any rapper dead or alive.

lol

lol what...

[nohunta]

uh.....

Wayne, is more of a hype type dude

[Reise]

Eminem, nuff said.

This dude has more skill than any rapper dead or alive.

lol

lol what...

You weren't joking?

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You weren't joking?

Do you have an argument against my statement?

[Vinyl]

Pfft, listen to real rap.
Gang Starr

Spoiler!

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Dj Quick and Eazy muthaphuckking E

Spoiler!

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This shit is not about a whack rapper who is rapping about sucking a lollipop with his robot friend.

you are the only person i know irl and internet that is old school.

i sir, thank you for it.

[XemnasXD]

You weren't joking?

Do you have an argument against my statement?

define skill....

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You weren't joking?

Do you have an argument against my statement?

define skill....

Are you saying Eminem has no skill; or do you just want me to define it out of the blue?

[XemnasXD]

saying he's the most skill rapper out there is a very vague term. Define skill. Is it his lyrics, his deliver, his beats, a combination of them all, whatever. Personally i think he's awful, when he's not complaining he's not saying anything and when he is complaining i'd rather not listen...

[Reise]

You weren't joking?

Do you have an argument against my statement?

Do you have one against mine?

[.AWAKE.]

AND YOU GUYS SHOULD LISTEN TO THE REAL SH#T.

You failed to deliver. What is the real shit?

2pac and Biggie (of course)
Big L
Big Pun
Eazy E
Charles Hamilton
Kid Cudi?
Immortal Technique
Nas
Rakim
Mos Def
Talib Kweli
Jedi Mind Tricks
Atmoshpere & Outerspace
Gangstarr
Benefit
Zion I
AND SO ON...

added some to the list

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saying he's the most skill rapper out there is a very vague term. Define skill. Is it his lyrics, his deliver, his beats, a combination of them all, whatever. Personally i think he's awful, when he's not complaining he's not saying anything and when he is complaining i'd rather not listen...

Ah ok, I see what you mean.

He's skilled in multiple areas of rap, so to kick things off lets start off with his lyrics. I really don't understand what were you trying to say when you mentioned the word "complain" but yet again you must be listening to the wrong songs.. His lyrics actually make sense, his style, his vocal is simply amazing; furthermore, he can pretty much freestyle to anything at any given beat.

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Secondly, he has something that most rappers don't have, and this is called multi-syllable rhyming. On another note, Eminem is versital just like Big L and Big pun were (have you heard of em?)

Pay attention to the lyrics of these songs.

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This song clearly shows how well he can put his words together in a song, he can flow on the beat like its' nothing, and the delivery? Well listen!

You weren't joking?

Do you have an argument against my statement?

Do you have one against mine?

what..


EDIT: Found this. http://www.vibe.com/news/online_exclusi ... m_vs_2pac/

[De La Sole]

Pfft, listen to real rap.
Gang Starr

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Dj Quick and Eazy muthaphuckking E

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This shit is not about a whack rapper who is rapping about sucking a lollipop with his robot friend.

you are the only person i know irl and internet that is old school.

i sir, thank you for it.

lol?

[Priam]

I've kinda grown out of rap and R&B, but i used to think Nas - One Mic, is a classic.

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And Eminem - The sauce, which i believe is aimed at Benzino.

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[Zypher]

i posted this list a while back but ill post it again


eyedea and abilities
typical cats
qwel
heiruspecs
13 & god
oddjobs
pigeon john
deltron 3030

[BrokenSaint]

Meh, most of the rap songs today lack substance. The lyrics are repetitive too.

Did I mention how much I hate Flo Rida? Songs like "Sugar" and "Right Round" have RIP written all over them. Talk about shitting all over my childhood =\

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Seriously, wtf is this shit? Just listen to these and you'll recognize where these come from.

[Skyve]

I personnaly dont like his "rock" album...if you can call that rock...more like auto-tune abuse
Seriously,all those rappers/singers thought "Hey,thats why T-Pain is so successful,because of auto-tune".Thing is T-Pain actually knows how to use auto-tune in a way to make a good music

[Reise]

Esoteric is a better rapper than Eminem IMO.

[BrokenSaint]

Esoteric is a better rapper than Eminem IMO.

I heard a song with Celph Titled featuring Esoteric. They both have sick work

[XemnasXD]

gotta admit thought hat Flo Rida "Right Round" has a catchy beat. I don't even consider stuff like that rap music, more like dance music.

as for rappers i can stand

Lupe
Nas
Kanye(sometimes)

thats about it, i don't go that deep into the genre cause most of its garbage but if i here something that catches my ear i won't auto-ignore just because its rap...

how bout that Asher Roth...

[C1ockwork]

Ehh I sorta like Asher Roth. His rap itself isnt that great but he has some funny punchlines and I like his personality. He talks openly about his marijuana use and he is "real".

[Da_Realest]

I don't really like Wayne anymore. I mainly listen to Lupe, Common, and Blu. I use to listen to Nas but now he just sounds like a black extremist and hasn't put out a great song since One Mic.

Typical Lupe song. Always full of content.
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Track analysis.

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Failure breakdown...

This has got to be the most metaphoric song in hip hop history, almost every line is a metaphor. Here's the breakdown of the lyrics...

It's mean, soldier
Now let me put the streets down like steamrollers
^^steamrollers pave streets, i.e.put them down

With the CATS that push
^^Caterpillar steamroller; "cats" = animal theme

40 oz. through the hood like King Cobras
^^animal theme; malt liquor

See me sling soda
'Cause the extra four in the split is mixed
It's really 36
^^seems to be a reference to 40 oz with 4 ounce of soda mixed = 36 ounces (36 oz = a ki)

Used to buy toasters and clips
^^Guns & Ammo

You can tighten your circle or boa constrict
^^animal theme

While you was lighting your purple, I was over the scripts
See, I couldn't walk the walk, couldn't really talk the talk
^^scripts, see = "script glasses"

Had to get my talk to properly explain my walk
'Cause this lack in talk had my walk looking off
Now I'm over the limp
Watch how they mugs drop when they see my Verbal's able
(That's the Usual)
^^Revelation in Usual Suspects of Kevin Spacey / Verbal Kint
At the moment Palminteri finds out he's "able" to walk, i.e. no limp, he drops his mug

When I was po' I was low
Now me and my Chaps cop Purple Label
It's Ralph Lauren on the rap laureate
^^Chaps as chaps or friends
Chaps, Purple Label = Ralph Lauren clothes
also 'when I was po' I was lo...po+lo = Polo

***** brown nose, they are like Alf to him
^^Brown nosing is to... have one's nose in someone's ass... as in suck up.
Alf a brown alien from the late 80s/early 90s sitcom.

Runners at Interscope are not as Stoute as him
^^Steve Stoute, exec at Interscope

Please don't Interscope
^^the 2nd "interscope" he's saying "enter scope"

It's gonna be a whole lot of IV'ing and respirating
^^IV'ing, as in intravenous medication, and Jimmy Iovine, chairman of Interscope

If I lean out this window with Irene
^^gun reference

***** as tall as Yao Ming
With L-U-P-Emperor
^^Emperor Ming

Is the foundation's high beams and the antennas
It's so serious every time I write my John Hancock like
Could damn near see Detroit
***** is scared of heights
^^Hitting on the tall idea, i.e. Yao Ming
John Hancock Center is a Chicago skyscraper, 16th tallest building in the world
Antennas sit atop
High beams as a building's structural high beams and high beams as in a high beam signal that links with an antenna signal
serious = sears tower

This is saran wrap and aluminum foil
Some potpourri, a little machine oil
^^all used to disguise the smell of drugs from police dogs
a/k/a "throw off my SCENTS'

I stack my paper and throw off my 6
^^ Ties into the previous line...6 = CENTS (only keep the bills, don't worry about the coins)

This is top floor, better look out before
Pennies from heaven is the same as the semi from the second
^^old Chicago urban legend about someone being killed by a coin
thrown from the observatory @ the top of the sears tower (throw off my cents)
hence "pennies from heaven" having the same effect as a bullet

And I reign supreme
Turn your umbrellas upside down
Did you even catch the change in theme?
^^As in normally when it's raining your umbrellas is right side up
but turn your umbrellas upside down so you can CATCH THE CHANGE (ties into aforementioned chi urban legend about falling coins)

And them ***** ain't Was nor from his regime
^^wasalu muhammad jaco = lupe's govt name

Gangsta lean
Hats on tilt
^^tilt, lean

like these ***** ain't drop out the vending machine
You gotta put more money in
^^http://www.cudakitchen.com/catalog-p...php?p_ref=1372

And I shake ***** up every time I drop a bar
(2 for 1)
^^shaking as what you'd do to the vending machine to try and get a "2 for 1"

It's horse in the Porsche
^^animal theme; horsepower
^^and bricks in the box
brick = kilo of cocaine stashed

Like mo' money them every time I cop a car
^^Ever time he picks up a car (with the coke) funds increase from sales

You see I'm a roller, right
^^another reference along the lines of steamroller

So it might be a Rover, right
^^Range Rover

But every time I drop a 'r'
(Get off the streets)
It's "over" aite
^^Remove the 'R' from "Rover" you get "over"

Bet I be in the head like overnight
^^overhead storage

Like rollers, right
^^You put rollers in your hair for a certain look

She the chauffeur, right
So I keep her sober
^^Friends don't let friends drink and drive

She don't get Fed Ex like overnight
^^Fed Ex as in overnight shipping
"feed ex" as in ecstasy, keeping her sober still

I am Dolomite
All that gas can't help you but solar might
^^Anyway, solar vs. fossil fuel energy

Just call on sun
^^sun / son

Drop a 's'
Pick up an 'o'
Uno, put it all on "one"
^^y'know / uno
"sun" drop an 's" = 'un' and an 'o' = "uno" = Spanish, Italian, etc. for "one"

Brace yourself like overbite
^^mouth theme; braces used to correct overbites

"For that quiet ***** that relocated down south
Coming back to floss"
^^Reference to Nas' NY State of Mind PT II with "floss" being used in the mouth theme

***** get your molars right
^^mouth theme

Fix your grill
^^mouth theme

No plaque but a whole lot of cheese
^^no platinum plaque but a whole lot of money, i.e. cheese
mouth theme: plaque as in tooth decay, cheese as in smile

This the drill
^^mouth theme

Mr. Chill
^^Chilly, Lupe's 1st & 15th partner

Gave me the green light like Yoda knife
So I'm a force my will
Like the Force I wield
^^green light as in "go ahead"
Yoda's light saber was green
Star Wars: "Force be with you"

Of course you will
Take my time
But weight behind only pertains
To that Porsche grill
^^time / wait / weight
"weight" as in drugs as in "bricks in the box"

It's snakes in the hood
Gotta watch for that Cobra bite
^^animal theme; snakes as in shady people
earlier reference to King Cobra

Let me see
There's snakes in the hood
A bird, a horse behind the grill
^^animal theme; bird = cocaine...a ki of heron hidden behind the grill of the Porsche

Something gator on the seat
^^animal theme; gator leather seating

And a fox behind the wheel
^^"fox" as in "attractive, alluring person"

For achiever
My procedure's
To proceed at all cost
With no breather
I'm all walk
Rain, snow, or fever
^^Postal Service: through Rain, Sleet, or Snow

I'm all coughs coming after your teacher
^^I don't know; coughs as in trying to get the teacher sick?
which contrasts with the previous fever reference

I'm on the ball like FIFA
^^Federation Internationale de Football Associatio; soccer

Viva
^^soccer chant

Lupe Duce
Long live the leader
^^Italian from Latin duke, meaning Emperor (see earlier) or leader
viva il duce" (long live the leader) = Mussolini reference
the word Duce, without necessarily historical context, relates to Emperor, from the earlier line, and the general Euro sensibility which goes with Uno and FIFA.

I remember I ain't have sneakers
It was welfare
Coming up for air is like
Whales there
^^Whales, unlike fish, have to come up from the water for air

Fila
^^Shoe company know for soccer ware

But now I'm well here
I'm Shamu with twelve pair
^^Shamu the whale

And ***** wanna take me back to zero like tear fare
^^fair / fare
Maybe reading too much into it: Fare, as in subway fare, having no worth when torn

Well, my skill's clear
You Sea World
^^See world, Sea World home of Shamu

It's Braille here
^^People feel his words, hence the blind have to feel the bumps to know what the word is.

I'm Bumpy Johnson, I stick to the streets
^^Bumpy Johnson = Harlem gangster
ties into Braille refrence...dude is connecting Harlem street legends to reading for the blind

Keep my dogs out in front of me
^^dogs on the street / dogs = chaps

You see what I'm saying
And I push ki's wonderfully
^^push keys as in piano, push ki's as in sell kilos of coke (duh)

I didn't write that.

[woutR]

My rapper is so much more street,gangster and pimp than yours. His lyrics are so real man, you wouldn't even suspect his IQ equals the carat of his gold teeth.
Getting a little tired of the rap debate. It's always the mainstream boys are bad and unknown randoms are so much more real and shit.

Who cares? Just listen to music for it's entertaining value. If you don't like it, skip it. Every time rap gets mentioned it's the same bashing over and over. On one side you have people who like some old school and then there's always someone who has found it possible to appreciate something like Lil Wayne or 50 cent.
This debate is always gonna exist and it's never going anywhere.