Level 100 .. Dual Build?

[TheSlink]

Heya Peoeples!!

So basically im farming a char right now since i got bored of my old..
I have bought a Premium Ticket ect..

Currently i have 934k SP.. Took me 3 months to farm.. <,<"

So basically my idea is this, have a dual build.. I dont see the difference in defence on this other than loosing a 20% Snow.. yeah it helps.. but since im going to have so much skills to prevent being attacked im sure it wont matter..

My build would be..

100 Bow
100 Blade
100 Fire...

However there is some quite different varaitons as to what i could pick..
100 Bow
100 Blader
80 Fire
20 Cold
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100 Bow
100 Blade
100 Cold - Using ice imbue..

Now i have thought, 100 bow is going to pull some crazy damage.. with crits.. added i can use Lightning chain for stats.. which would increase my overall damage.. also the new chain means i can stun, fear ect.. and the double knockback means im going to be hard to kill..

Also, if i do become under-pressure.. i switch to blade and spam knockdowns and stabs.. these on their own pulls crazy high damage....

My idea for a 1v1 would be..

Start blader, Flying stone - Lightning Swtich, knockbacks.. strong bow.. anti devil.. devil arrow.. then back to knockdowns on blade and stabs..

I do believe this could work..

Can someone give me some rundowns on possible pro/cons.. just dont worry about the SP in 2 months or so.. i should have enough.. i need roughly 1.2m then 0 gap grinding to 100 should get me 300k.. or so.. meaning i WOULD be FF 100.. unless i stay on ongs to get the full amount..

Anyway..

I look forward to hearing your reply..

TheSlink

[zShared]

100 blade / bow / fire is a good build, one of my guildmates has it.

If you're mainly going to 1v1 go with 100 fire; If you plan to play group PvP a lot I would personally go 80 fire / 20 ice. Although you do have a lot of skills to disable your opponent.. you could be getting attacked by many and 20% damage reduce is awesome to help tank. Only downside would be losing some damage, as snow shield more than makes up for the lower level fire magical defense buff.

[EcsTasY]

100 100 100 could work really well. I wouldn't recommend doing 80 20. I'm still a fan of bow+glavie dual wep builds though...just my preference.

[Amarisa]

i like blade/glavie better. on ecsro i'm 90 90 90 30 light is at 30 just for speed. it works just fine

[VeniVidiVici]

I'd take 100 100 80 20. Less sp, way more survivability. You'll lose maybe 500 dmg from imbue and buff+passive and some mag defence (but snow shield makes up for that). And 80 is still enough for immunity.

Tho I'd take Blade/Glaive instead of Blade/Bow.

[TheSlink]

What are your reasons for the bow/glavie?

Becuase i cant see it being better than Blader.. simply because i have the knockdowns + the stabs.. where as on the glavie i got only stun and a tiny knockback.. i think bladder would be sooo much better...

I need some more people to comment here before i waste ALOT of sp in something i dont need...

Thanks

[Amarisa]

well if fembria gets back online soon i can post a pvp vid with my dual wep

[TheSlink]

Omg.. this isnt escro.. so i couldnt care about that..

Im talking about iSRO!..

The builds/skills/pvp is completely contrasting..

TheSlink

[EcsTasY]

What are your reasons for the bow/glavie?

Becuase i cant see it being better than Blader.. simply because i have the knockdowns + the stabs.. where as on the glavie i got only stun and a tiny knockback.. i think bladder would be sooo much better...

I need some more people to comment here before i waste ALOT of sp in something i dont need...

Thanks

Get the highest damage combos if your a good weapon switcher. Strong bow(350%) + celestial beast arrow(350%) + Flying Dragon Flash(180% x 2) + SSE(175% x 2) + Ghost Spear Mars(310%).

You'd also have +3800 hp and +68 attack rating. It's easily the highest damage chinese STR build.

[TheSlink]

Ok, so cleary Bow + Glavie the high damage put together..

But, think about Bleed, Division combined with a Strong Bow Will.. then into a celestrial.. and then switch onto knockdowns.. stabs.. then the 100 chain.. surely thats gotta be pretty simular IF NOT more damage.

Not only this, what about the fact that ok, im bow+glavie.. if im going against a sun char.. or atleast some like a strong warrior.. i think i will struggle..if im not heaskal.. im going to have the increased blocking rate + the ironwall ect..

Im personally sure the glavie isnt going to be better than the blader..
I need some more people to comment, if anyone knows a STR dual build on 100 cap.. maybe 9x-10x please contact me .. i would love to see a video ect..

Thanks

TheSlink

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you got kb from bow too if you run into hard person and need to tank a bit too...
i like bow/galvie because bow is strong and ranged, galvie can be mid/close range with lots of good aoe for pt pve/pvp

also remember rumors are new stones are coming for status immunities so blade chains wont be as efficient later on if the rumors are true

[VeniVidiVici]

you got kb from bow too if you run into hard person and need to tank a bit too...
i like bow/galvie because bow is strong and ranged, galvie can be mid/close range with lots of good aoe for pt pve/pvp

also remember rumors are new stones are coming for status immunities so blade chains wont be as efficient later on if the rumors are true

Remember those stones are very hard to get: First you need to kill Roc (165mil hp), then if you are lucky he'll drop such a stone and as if we're not done yet you have to succeed the stone (not sure about the last one tho).

[EcsTasY]

Ok, so cleary Bow + Glavie the high damage put together..

But, think about Bleed, Division combined with a Strong Bow Will.. then into a celestrial.. and then switch onto knockdowns.. stabs.. then the 100 chain.. surely thats gotta be pretty simular IF NOT more damage.

Not only this, what about the fact that ok, im bow+glavie.. if im going against a sun char.. or atleast some like a strong warrior.. i think i will struggle..if im not heaskal.. im going to have the increased blocking rate + the ironwall ect..

Im personally sure the glavie isnt going to be better than the blader..
I need some more people to comment, if anyone knows a STR dual build on 100 cap.. maybe 9x-10x please contact me .. i would love to see a video ect..

Thanks

TheSlink

Your right about the whole bleed + division thing, but its not like its that easy to do that, you have to do a few chains to get both of those on, and thats not to say they don't have pills or holy spell...in the time it takes you to get all of that on them, you already lost a lot of damage, and they may have knocked you back and interrupted a few, knocked you down, etc. Bow+glavie doesn't rely on going through rounds upon rounds of chains until it gets even up close to the amount of damage that bow+glavie can do on its own. Basically, I'd categorize dual wep builds like this:

Blade+glavie: defensive, hp increase, mag and phys buffs, shield
Blade+bow: defensive with decent damage, mid damage build
Glavie+bow: offensive build, lacks on defense, highest damage

[TillTheEnd]

I don't see the combination of short range (blader) and bower that can atk from like 30 meters working so well. 90% of the times u will be just another blader doing nothing but chains and most smart players will pill out stats when 2 land...u will repeat chains again and hope to get 2 of them again within 15 sec...the only stat that may work to ur advantage is Fear/stun/dull>>>it does nothing to decrease atk dmg/def so is north worth the pills.

I think it could be a fun unique build but u will find urself playing blader almost all the times. also when u switch to blade/shield,no matter how fast u think to switch to it, ur opponent will regain 90-100% of his heath. a blader alone can own any1 that does NOT use pills. or get lucky to land 2 stats right after pills are use.

[pizzagirl2008]

if u just want status u're better off just going force blader

bow/glaive works the same way as how warrior/rogue works...back to back high damage that the opponent cannot recover unless they block or interrupt u mid way.

imo best builds for each race...both chars 100ff which i have

[EcsTasY]

if u just want status u're better off just going force blader

bow/glaive works the same way as how warrior/rogue works...back to back high damage that the opponent cannot recover unless they block or interrupt u mid way.

imo best builds for each race...both chars 100ff which i have

Kind of but not really, I mean the blade has a big role to play there, it is your "tank". The bow is your damage. I'm still a fan of bow+glavie, but blade+bow just for status' still isn't the same as just making force bower or force blader. His reasons for doing blade aren't just for status', but for kd's and stabs predominately, he just finds status' an added bonus.

I don't see the combination of short range (blader) and bower that can atk from like 30 meters working so well. 90% of the times u will be just another blader doing nothing but chains and most smart players will pill out stats when 2 land...u will repeat chains again and hope to get 2 of them again within 15 sec...the only stat that may work to ur advantage is Fear/stun/dull>>>it does nothing to decrease atk dmg/def so is north worth the pills.

I think it could be a fun unique build but u will find urself playing blader almost all the times. also when u switch to blade/shield,no matter how fast u think to switch to it, ur opponent will regain 90-100% of his heath. a blader alone can own any1 that does NOT use pills. or get lucky to land 2 stats right after pills are use.

He'll be using whatever combo he finds effective. Just because your opponent is right up on you doesn't mean that you have to use blade...does a bower just start running because the opponent is right up on him/her? No, bowers can take it. He/she will have to get the weapon switch down for any combination.

[TheSlink]

There is so many mixed opinions here its horrible..

Can anyone else give me some opinions and thoughts here..

Thanks

[TheSlink]

So..

Can anyone else comment..

Its between Dual.. Bow/GLAVIE/Fire Or.. Bow/BLADER/Fire..

The Bow/Glav will give out high dmg and dps.. but blader will be my tank in sticky situations.. being jumped ect..

Someone else please add..

[KsqueaKJ]

if your gonna go dual build dont go bow/glavie, go bow/blade.
and do 100 fire, lvl 80 fire imblue is gonna suck vs a lvl 100.

blade gives u ALOT more advantages than a glavie would.

all the reasons you have given are perfect, stick with ur original plan adn do what you want.

[McLovin1t]

if your gonna go dual build dont go bow/glavie, go bow/blade.
and do 100 fire, lvl 80 fire imblue is gonna suck vs a lvl 100.

blade gives u ALOT more advantages than a glavie would.

all the reasons you have given are perfect, stick with ur original plan adn do what you want.

I would have to go with this guy right here. Do whichever you want, I mean blade/bow may have less damage, but the defense that you lose without block could mean a loss. Also with kbs, AND KDS, the enemy can rarely hit you, unlike with bow/glavie in which there is only kbs, and a warrior could just sprint assasult that. I would go for blade, and definitely get 100 Fire, 80 Fire will get you owned, damage nowhere near high enough. Just my 2 cents.

[VeniVidiVici]

if your gonna go dual build dont go bow/glavie, go bow/blade.
and do 100 fire, lvl 80 fire imblue is gonna suck vs a lvl 100.

blade gives u ALOT more advantages than a glavie would.

all the reasons you have given are perfect, stick with ur original plan adn do what you want.

I would have to go with this guy right here. Do whichever you want, I mean blade/bow may have less damage, but the defense that you lose without block could mean a loss. Also with kbs, AND KDS, the enemy can rarely hit you, unlike with bow/glavie in which there is only kbs, and a warrior could just sprint assasult that. I would go for blade, and definitely get 100 Fire, 80 Fire will get you owned, damage nowhere near high enough. Just my 2 cents.

People we are talking about pure STR remember? What do you lose with 80 fire against 100 fire?
I know:
-2% phy dmg (not much):phy buff stays same % but passive is more
-About 150 mag defence, snow shield gives more defense.
-Imbue? since you are pure str you will hardly notice any difference
-Immunity stays same

That's pretty much it.

[McLovin1t]

Idk about that. I would rather be able to keep up 20% MP, and take 150 magic defense, and have more damage, then to get 20 ice...

[VeniVidiVici]

Well that's your opinion, Im just trying to convince ppl of my opinion by using arguments

[Nitro]

Bunch of ignorant people here.
Difference between 100 fire and 80 fire is not noticable in damage, if you are making full STR.
This has been tested milion times. I even made a test with lv.80 Fire imbue and lv.5 Ice imbue, difference in damage was nearly noticable.

Definetaly 80 Fire / 20 Ice.

I see no reason why would you make Glavie/Bow?
Dual weapons only work because you can use Blade for tanking when its rough, and you can put statues with it, so you can finish off people with Glavie or Bow easier.

[TheSlink]

Bunch of ignorant people here.
Difference between 100 fire and 80 fire is not noticable in damage, if you are making full STR.
This has been tested milion times. I even made a test with lv.80 Fire imbue and lv.5 Ice imbue, difference in damage was nearly noticable.

Definetaly 80 Fire / 20 Ice.

I see no reason why would you make Glavie/Bow?
Dual weapons only work because you can use Blade for tanking when its rough, and you can put statues with it, so you can finish off people with Glavie or Bow easier.

My point exactly..

I think im taking Bow/Blade

Current SP: 1,031,000

[Spanktastik]

bow/blade is the way to go.

bow/glaive is good for basic 1v1...
- awesome offense, end your opponent (maybe even multiple opponents) quickly.
- high HP even with your bow out, you wont die as easily as a normal bow.
- magic defense buff which is very helpful as a pure STR

bow/blade is good all around...
- your stabs help you fight better along side other bladers and warriors
- your knockdowns help you escape tricky situations (not to mention do good damage too)
- status effects are a plus if you can land them. being fully farmed, your skills will be up to par so youll do ok.
- great build for group PVP and wars (I've seen it in action), you can tank when people are on you or attack when theyre not.

Always go with your gut instinct. Doing that, I chose 2 builds that I absolutely love.

[TheSlink]

Looks all good, just need to farm another 960k.. I only need another 200k .. but i want to be OVERFARMED.. becuase id rather sit here and gain SP while rather than reaching cap and have to farm ALL over again for the 110 Cap..

Its obviously the better way to go...

I calculated that by 100.. i should be overfarmed by around 1,000,000 SP.. Sexy

[Pan_Raider(`_´)]

you might farm in parties, he gets farmed at ongs
he found his way, might as well respect it till you find evidence -_-

[Nitro]

^Logging in, deleveling, watching if you didnt DC, taking over main leveler (help the friend with grinding, if he isnt botting) etc etc...

In my opinion, waiting on ongs is bigger energy and nervs eater than grinding.

[TheSlink]

you might farm in parties, he gets farmed at ongs
he found his way, might as well respect it till you find evidence -_-

"sit here and gain sp"

Sit there means: Sitting, not doing anything. Sitting on my lazy ass

Gain SP: gaining skill experience points.

sit here and gain sp: Gain sp while not doing anything.

Definition of Bot on 9 gap:

Press a button and get sp while not doing anything.

Wowies, Seems like someone is hot and flustered.

There is nothing against me "sitting" and getting some SP.. Who cars, you farm you way and i farm mine. Only thing is, i can finish my College work whilst farming, where as it seems you cant. College>School. I admit, if i wasnt in College i would hand grind this char.. but time is at the essence as you'll learn some day me old chap.

Have a great day now!.

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