fire shield and immunity

[katip:pPp]

i tried to use the search function but i couldnt find this. whats the formula of immunity from abnormal status considering the fire shield and the resistances of the accessories?

[Thomas42]

IT's simple. If the immunity to something adds up to a number above 100, you can't get that status. If it's below 100, only its duration gets reduced, not its probability of success.

[SilentShade]

idk what exactly you mean with formula. The number of resistance given by fire shield is a percentage, as an example: if fire shield gives u 23 immunity, its 23% for any of the "normal" statusses (burn, shock, freeze, poison, zombie). The immunity percentages on the accessorrys are added to the one from fire shield.

Lets say u got maxed fire shield, which gives 79% (?), got 10% burn resist on one ring, 20% burn resist on the other ring, and 20% shock resist on ur necklace, then u are COMPLETLY immune against burn status, and NEARLY immune against shock (99%).

I hope i helped a bit, even though i think i told something u didnt want to know lol

[TillTheEnd]

is Time reduction % as stated on blues, if a status last 1min and u have fire shield +20% from accessory, reduce that time by 98%. is Not probability of resistant like holy spell but it reduces time burn/freeze ect. stays on. this is why with new stones that will resiste combustion/fear ect. 78% fire shield+ 2x (40%) stones does not = immunity...= 40% chance u will get the debuff...get 4 stones (80%) probability resistant =immunity since warlocks have a 80% probability of status working.

[katip:pPp]

The number of resistance given by fire shield is a percentage

ahhh ok this explains all, i was stuck there cuz sro doesnt say its a %

[garner]

Status_effect * (accessories_protection_procent)/100 - fire_shield_protection = final effect

If it's negative ur imune, if it's pozitive then u should work on ur accessories.

ex:
Ice effect on lvl 80(imbue): 178
You have 20% and 5% rezistance on acc that makes 25%
and fire shield emperor effect is 78.

You will get this status:
178 *25 / 100 - 78= - 34 < 0 which makes u imune to that

[katip:pPp]

Status_effect * (accessories_protection_procent)/100 - fire_shield_protection = final effect

If it's negative ur imune, if it's pozitive then u should work on ur accessories.

ex:
Ice effect on lvl 80(imbue): 178
You have 20% and 5% rezistance on acc that makes 25%
and fire shield emperor effect is 78.

You will get this status:
178 *25 / 100 - 78= - 34 < 0 which makes u imune to that

i've thought it was like this for kinda long time, yet today i found out its wrong.. its like SilentShade said.

[YangKang]

WTH you want with all that math? Its simple.

Fire shield = 78 [ % ]
Immunity on accsesory = 22+ [ % ]

Outcome = you are immune.

That simple >_>

[Amro]

i told u katip
thx i needed it too

[XMoshe]

WTH you want with all that math? Its simple.

Fire shield = 78 [ % ]
Immunity on accsesory = 22+ [ % ]

Outcome = you are immune.

That simple >_>

Yep, I still like to have all reduces on all my acc's though..preferably 10%+

[EvGa]

Orrr, level 11 fire shield, 21% reduce. 20% blues on all jewels, you're still immune.

[Amro]

ye i will change my build a bit
cold 100 -> 89
fire 0 -> 11
maybe

[EvGa]

I already have.


Saved me 200k+ sp. Downside is the lose of some phy def. But not worth 200k+ sp to me.

[XMoshe]

I already have.


Saved me 200k+ sp. Downside is the lose of some phy def. But not worth 200k+ sp to me.

Yeah and like 53% snow is good enough at 100 o.O

[EvGa]

53% compared to 60? Yeah, it's plenty. Most ints can't keep up with the mp usage of 60% snow without using vigors.

[SilentShade]

Status_effect * (accessories_protection_procent)/100 - fire_shield_protection = final effect

If it's negative ur imune, if it's pozitive then u should work on ur accessories.

ex:
Ice effect on lvl 80(imbue): 178
You have 20% and 5% rezistance on acc that makes 25%
and fire shield emperor effect is 78.

You will get this status:
178 *25 / 100 - 78= - 34 < 0 which makes u imune to that

i've thought it was like this for kinda long time, yet today i found out its wrong.. its like SilentShade said.

His formula seems right aswell, but after thinking about it, i noticed its wrong. The only thing u have to do in order to find out if u are immune is to count the % on ur accessorrys and add them to the effect reduce of fire shield, seeing it as a percentage aswell, if outcome >= 100 u are totally immune:


Why the formula is not correct: With the given example u got a total of 103% immunity (25+78), which makes u COMPLETLY immune against any lvl of the status, doesnt matter if the status effect is 178 or 1780000000. Now insert both numbers in the formula and u will see that its not correct, cause it will show u that u arent immune against an effect of 1780000000, which is wrong.

[Amro]

53% compared to 60? Yeah, it's plenty. Most ints can't keep up with the mp usage of 60% snow without using vigors.

yea me neither even in garment

[YangKang]

ye i will change my build a bit
cold 100 -> 89
fire 0 -> 11
maybe

I'd rather take lighting [ I guess you are INT Hybrid light cold fire weap ] to 99 and Ice to 90. The physical defense and ice shield you get is way better than this 1 % mag increase and sp waste.

[Amro]

ye i will change my build a bit
cold 100 -> 89
fire 0 -> 11
maybe

I'd rather take lighting [ I guess you are INT Hybrid light cold fire weap ] to 99 and Ice to 90. The physical defense and ice shield you get is way better than this 1 % mag increase and sp waste.

if 8 str points are making a hybrid then i am >.> bich light cold

[YangKang]

oh lol. Well I still would take the 100 99 90 11 build, even better for you since your phy defense isnt that great either. [ I assume this all, correct me if im wrong ]

[garner]

Spoiler!

Status_effect * (accessories_protection_procent)/100 - fire_shield_protection = final effect

If it's negative ur imune, if it's pozitive then u should work on ur accessories.

ex:
Ice effect on lvl 80(imbue): 178
You have 20% and 5% rezistance on acc that makes 25%
and fire shield emperor effect is 78.

You will get this status:
178 *25 / 100 - 78= - 34 < 0 which makes u imune to that

i've thought it was like this for kinda long time, yet today i found out its wrong.. its like SilentShade said.

His formula seems right aswell, but after thinking about it, i noticed its wrong. The only thing u have to do in order to find out if u are immune is to count the % on ur accessorrys and add them to the effect reduce of fire shield, seeing it as a percentage aswell, if outcome >= 100 u are totally immune:


Why the formula is not correct: With the given example u got a total of 103% immunity (25+78), which makes u COMPLETLY immune against any lvl of the status, doesnt matter if the status effect is 178 or 1780000000. Now insert both numbers in the formula and u will see that its not correct, cause it will show u that u arent immune against an effect of 1780000000, which is wrong.

1780000000 *25 / 100 - 78 = 445000000 - 78 = ... > 0 .. that doesn't look to me like the same result.

Fire shield doesn't add a procent like jewelery protection. It only cover any 78 or smaller efect remained.

[XMoshe]

Spoiler!

i've thought it was like this for kinda long time, yet today i found out its wrong.. its like SilentShade said.

His formula seems right aswell, but after thinking about it, i noticed its wrong. The only thing u have to do in order to find out if u are immune is to count the % on ur accessorrys and add them to the effect reduce of fire shield, seeing it as a percentage aswell, if outcome >= 100 u are totally immune:


Why the formula is not correct: With the given example u got a total of 103% immunity (25+78), which makes u COMPLETLY immune against any lvl of the status, doesnt matter if the status effect is 178 or 1780000000. Now insert both numbers in the formula and u will see that its not correct, cause it will show u that u arent immune against an effect of 1780000000, which is wrong.

1780000000 *25 / 100 - 78 = 445000000 - 78 = ... > 0 .. that doesn't look to me like the same result.

Fire shield doesn't add a procent like jewelery protection. It only cover any 78 or smaller efect remained.

Maxed fire shield gives you a 78% reduction. It's not meant to be like that, but it happens to be that way lol. As stated before, you only need 22% total reduction for each status on your accessory. (Being it 3x 5 and 1 10%, or 1 20% and 1 3%...as long as it's 22% or higher added up)

[SilentShade]

Spoiler!

His formula seems right aswell, but after thinking about it, i noticed its wrong. The only thing u have to do in order to find out if u are immune is to count the % on ur accessorrys and add them to the effect reduce of fire shield, seeing it as a percentage aswell, if outcome >= 100 u are totally immune:


Why the formula is not correct: With the given example u got a total of 103% immunity (25+78), which makes u COMPLETLY immune against any lvl of the status, doesnt matter if the status effect is 178 or 1780000000. Now insert both numbers in the formula and u will see that its not correct, cause it will show u that u arent immune against an effect of 1780000000, which is wrong.

1780000000 *25 / 100 - 78 = 445000000 - 78 = ... > 0 .. that doesn't look to me like the same result.

Fire shield doesn't add a procent like jewelery protection. It only cover any 78 or smaller efect remained.

Maxed fire shield gives you a 78% reduction. It's not meant to be like that, but it happens to be that way lol.

exactly, and that fact makes the formula incorrect.