DumboDii wrote:Personally I don't believe in ghosts. And can't stop lolling at ppl who believe. I'm sorry. My understanding of death is that when a living creature dies it just turns off. Like some machine. Nothing like soul will come out of it after the body dies. I simply believe that creatures contains only atoms and thinking,dreaming,loving,hating are just some electric impulses going trough brain. In therms of philosophy this is called materialism.
DumboDii wrote:Personally I don't believe in ghosts. And can't stop lolling at ppl who believe. I'm sorry. My understanding of death is that when a living creature dies it just turns off. Like some machine. Nothing like soul will come out of it after the body dies. I simply believe that creatures contains only atoms and thinking,dreaming,loving,hating are just some electric impulses going trough brain. In therms of philosophy this is called materialism.
The universe contains only 4% of visible matter
And?
And even if the body of a creature contains the dark energy, it's out of our knowledge.
Why it have to be dark energy? That just proves how stupid it is to believe in ghost. If some bad spirit could pop out of corpse why couldn't it be for example pink Mickey Mouse on drugs jumping all over the place?
NuclearSilo wrote:That's only a supposition. I only say that there are 96% of stuffs in the universe we don't know yet. Why would a spirit has to be light matter then?
I didn't say that. I asked why it would be dark. And when talking about universe it's more likely 99.99999% that we don't know so I think we should just think about earth in this case.
I told you it's just a supposition, because they share some similitudes: - we can't see them - we know nothing about them - there is no reason why they would belong to light matter
NuclearSilo wrote:I told you it's just a supposition, because they share some similitudes: - we can't see them - we know nothing about them - there is no reason why they would exist
I don't believe in Ghosts. But I do believe there's something out there we can't describe. And trying to get to it's root cause is like explaining logic with dreams. You can't, it doesn't work that way. I guess some call it karma and some call it some supernatural presence. Whatever it might be, it's not something you can explain with some pseudo intellectual post. I believe in some essence out there, but ghosts? As in the dearly departed who are unable to leave this world because of personal attachements? No, sorry I don't. Can I explain why I don't believe in them? No, I can't. I simply and freely choose to believe. =]
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NuclearSilo wrote:I told you it's just a supposition, because they share some similitudes: - we can't see them - we know nothing about them - there is no reason why they wouldn't exist
Well as I said I believe in materialism and becous of that I believe that if ghosts would exist there would be some way to see/touch them. And as everyone knows that haven't happened and if someone says so he/she is child or lunatic.
DumboDii wrote:Well as I said I believe in materialism and becous of that I believe that if ghosts would exist there would be some way to see/touch them. And as everyone knows that haven't happened and if someone says so he/she is child or lunatic.
So I am either a child or a lunatic because I claim to have seen a ghost?
DumboDii wrote:Well as I said I believe in materialism and becous of that I believe that if ghosts would exist there would be some way to see/touch them. And as everyone knows that haven't happened and if someone says so he/she is child or lunatic.
Yes, and i'm still talking about material: - you can't see dark matter - you can't touch dark matter
DumboDii wrote:Well as I said I believe in materialism and becous of that I believe that if ghosts would exist there would be some way to see/touch them. And as everyone knows that haven't happened and if someone says so he/she is child or lunatic.
Yes, and i'm still talking about material: - you can't see dark matter - you can't touch dark matter
=> conclusion, dark matter not exist?
Ofc you can touch dark matter. Feeling it is different story. And dark matters presence can be inferred from gravitational effects on visible matter. (Ya wikipedia rulz). Till you bring me some kind of device that can detect ghosts I'm not going to believe in ghosts no matter what you say.
DumboDii wrote:Well as I said I believe in materialism and becous of that I believe that if ghosts would exist there would be some way to see/touch them. And as everyone knows that haven't happened and if someone says so he/she is child or lunatic.
Yes, and i'm still talking about material: - you can't see dark matter - you can't touch dark matter
=> conclusion, dark matter not exist?
That's the way someone who believes in materialism thinks. That's how science thinks. "When something isn't proved, it doesn't exist".
DumboDii wrote:And I'm still wondering IF ghosts really exist why couldn't they be like happy little spirits who help ppl. Instead of scaring them.
Maybe their intension isn't to scare us, but people are afraid of something they don't know of (ghosts). And as I said, I don't believe ghosts are hatefull, I think they are lost spirits.
DumboDii wrote:Ofc you can touch dark matter. Feeling it is different story. And dark matters presence can be inferred from gravitational effects on visible matter. (Ya wikipedia rulz). Till you bring me some kind of device that can detect ghosts I'm not going to believe in ghosts no matter what you say.
@Baster: Are you serious?
Touchable but can't feel it is like touching the empty. Better think it's not even exist. Not talking about touch, how can you examine an element when you can't see it through the microscope? And no, i don't have proof of whoever has a device to detect ghosts as you don't have proof of anyone has a device to detect dark matter. Yes, wikipedia got its reason. But ppl who talked with ghosts, witnessed many predictions got their reason too (and ppl is gonna blah blah about coincidence, but that's too much coincidence)
Our ideologys are too different we really should not keep this going. And btw about this speaking to ghosts thing. Mostly when ppl say that they have experienced something that's "out of this world" it's something to do with psychology. Brains makes us feel something that doesn't really exist. This effect is being triggered by the situation itself.
Nuclear Silo: Ok, we got it, you really believe in ghosts. But you have no proof, so there's no way that posting on a gaming forum is going to change the mind of people who don't believe in ghosts.
Yesterday I left my house and I shuted my bedroom door, no one had been at home until I got back and I found my bedroom door open.
Now I could say it was a ghost who went into my room (lol), or that I didn't shut it well and an air rush opened it.
I wasn't direct to you. I talk to the one who mentioned that whoever believes in spirits has to do with "psychology", "lunatic" or "illusional problem", etc... it's clearly he is talking about a mental trouble here...
NuclearSilo wrote:I wasn't direct to you. I talk to the one who mentioned that whoever believes in spirits has to do with "psychology", "lunatic" or "illusional problem", etc... it's clearly he is talking about a mental trouble here...
I think you misunderstood the psychology thing. I think it's common knowledge that human brains can make ppl feel or see something that doesn't really exist. If I but it really simple a chil thinks his room is safe and all when the light is on but when you turn off the light his imagination starts doing tricks and he/she becomes afraid of the room. As in spiritistic rituals or etc. brains may do these tricks which are triggered by the situation. The effect is more powerful if you really belive in these things before the ritual. It happens to everyone. By that I'm not putting myself or someone else higher level or something. It will happen to anyone in necessary circumstances.
Thee_UniQue wrote:lol. where did I say you had psychologic problems?
2. I did not say they CAN NOT exist, I just said that some people believe and others don't.
3. Bit to late to tell us there's no point in discussing about it?
This is all non-sense imo.
If you strive to outwit the other member with each and every post you make, then yes, it's nonsense because the subject is destined to only be about 1 thing, which is who's right and who's wrong. Then it's determined to fail from the start. Now if you were to talk about where they came from, what causes them etc, or what people's experiences are with them.. Then you have a interesting thing to talk about. If everyone goes for the gold with each first post they make, then again, yes. It's non-sense. There's more between fail and finish you know. There's also no need to be so overly defensive either.
Btw: Gratz on 1000 Posts. ^^
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