Question for all those "legits" out there *Poll added*

[CrimsonNuker]

Silkroad is a game=not real life.Why bother even comparing?

How is a game not real life? Is football real life?

A computer game is not real life. A non-virtual football game is real life.

game
1  /geɪm/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [geym] Show IPA noun, adjective, gam⋅er, gam⋅est, verb, gamed, gam⋅ing.
–noun
1. an amusement or pastime: children's games.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/game

I lol at how some people are saying whoever bots is a bastard/crook/addict/criminal irl.

[Balderdash]

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/real_life <-- much more revealing.

Just because the action doesnt take place in real life, doesnt mean that the decisions you make arent representative of who you are.

[.curve]

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/real_life <-- much more revealing.

Just because the action doesnt take place in real life, doesnt mean that the decisions you make arent representative of who you are.

I don't believe they are. A game allows you the safety of anonymity. You can do or say something from the safety of your computer screen.

[Da_Realest]

Silkroad is a game=not real life.Why bother even comparing?

How is a game not real life? Is football real life?

A computer game is not real life. A non-virtual football game is real life.

game
1  /geɪm/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [geym] Show IPA noun, adjective, gam⋅er, gam⋅est, verb, gamed, gam⋅ing.
–noun
1. an amusement or pastime: children's games.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/game

I lol at how some people are saying whoever bots is a bastard/crook/addict/criminal irl.

Yea, the computer game isn't real but the people playing it are real. People don't suddenly change and start acting differently because it's a game unless their role playing.

What you do or say in any game is a small extension of who you really are. It's the anonymity that can allow them to show their true self, or who they would be if there was no "penalty" for their actions.

Many people who bot are opportunist. They do it because they can. There are no consequences for their actions or the consequences are simply insignificant. If a similiar situation should arise outside of the game that doesn't conflict with their morales or involve extenuating circumstances, I'm pretty sure they would break whatever the rules/laws are and take advantage of that situation as well.

[BuDo]

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/real_life <-- much more revealing.

Just because the action doesnt take place in real life, doesnt mean that the decisions you make arent representative of who you are.

I don't believe they are. A game allows you the safety of anonymity. You can do or say something from the safety of your computer screen.

You're dead wrong curve. It's because of that anonymity and safety why a player decision IS a representative of who they are. In fact they are most likely to hide certain aspects about themselves in the presence of others in real life. But behind a computer screen they can be more open because the fear of criticism is not there

[.curve]

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/real_life <-- much more revealing.

Just because the action doesnt take place in real life, doesnt mean that the decisions you make arent representative of who you are.

I don't believe they are. A game allows you the safety of anonymity. You can do or say something from the safety of your computer screen.

You're dead wrong curve. It's because of that anonymity and safety why a player decision IS a representative of who they are. In fact they are most likely to hide certain aspects about themselves in the presence of others in real life. But behind a computer screen they can be more open because the fear of criticism is not there

Well then it comes down to which is the real you? The person you are in real life? Or the person you are on a game?

Personally, I believe the person you are in real life is who you actually are.

[lucid4life]

How is a game not real life? Is football real life?

What I meant to say was that morality in a game isn't morality in real life.

Imagine killing somebody in real life,thats horribly wrong right?
Imagine pking/pwning somebody in Silkroad,is that bad as well?

As u see,different surroundings,different morality thats what I wanted to point out.Thus game=no forced morality besides TOS and Real life is filled with it.

[NuclearSilo]

lol why are you still arguing about smt
legit=good
bot support=pathetic
End of story.

[lucid4life]

Oh cause offcourse you hold the golden key of justice.Just ignore arguments and say you got absolute truth,easy game right?

[NuclearSilo]

yeah, because it's the justice i can easily beat any bot support fair and square.

[Goseki]

Has anyone thought about how it's partially our own faults for succumbing to the temptations of botting vs joymax's fault. Back in the old day, there were less bots since JM was actually running around asking ppl and banning them. Now, they don't even appear in the servers, which makes it the top game for me where you never see an admin in game. I really think it's Joymax's stance on botting that made people just not care anymore and start botting. Most of my friend's started off as non-botters, but shortly after 70 or 80 cap, they saw botters capped and safe. Hell, we even had botters bragging and daring JM to ban them so they can chargeback. They are still here playing today.

I think it's JM's conduct that led to botting being as rampant as it is today. If they had kept up that banning spree, banning playerbots by hand and goldbots automatically, this game would be alot cleaner with only a handful of botters secretly baby-sitting their bots.

[NuclearSilo]

banning playerbots by hand and goldbots automatically

lol
there is no way they could do it, when both types are run by the same program

[Jigabachi]

banning playerbots by hand and goldbots automatically

lol
there is no way they could do it, when both types are run by the same program

Then if they were still upto the task of getting rid of botters they most probably would of eventually done somthing to block the program.

[AkillerNXC]

I lol'd at page one btw. I'm curious, did you ever have a character on babel? lulz, fail.

[welshdemon]

i hate botters and cheaters i can't play this wonderful game because of ppl that bot.it will never change ever and i hope some one who has influnce will take joymax to court for false advertising.this wonderful game is supposed to be f2p but it is not the case anymore u HAVE to have silk to play this game.
so that is why i will never get to play silkroad because of the botters.

[TeamLosi]

I lol'd at page one btw. I'm curious, did you ever have a character on babel? lulz, fail.

So now you you come and say something 4 pages in...why do i need a character on babel to see that u botted?

[BuDo]

Has anyone thought about how it's partially our own faults for succumbing to the temptations of botting vs joymax's fault. Back in the old day, there were less bots since JM was actually running around asking ppl and banning them. Now, they don't even appear in the servers, which makes it the top game for me where you never see an admin in game. I really think it's Joymax's stance on botting that made people just not care anymore and start botting. Most of my friend's started off as non-botters, but shortly after 70 or 80 cap, they saw botters capped and safe. Hell, we even had botters bragging and daring JM to ban them so they can chargeback. They are still here playing today.

I think it's JM's conduct that led to botting being as rampant as it is today. If they had kept up that banning spree, banning playerbots by hand and goldbots automatically, this game would be alot cleaner with only a handful of botters secretly baby-sitting their bots.

+1

Very true. Its time all you people stop wasting your time blaming "botters". Cheating,stealing,lying are things that will never go away. Blame JM 100% for the bot problem. Like I said a long time ago,...you can't leave the doors of your house open and go out and when your stuff gets stolen you get angry and blame the thieves.

[Pan_Raider(`_´)]

^ yup

but people need scapegoats
most assumptions of people judging personality by wether they bot or not is 50/50,
people just want to see others get caught do divert from their own mistakes.
even though people are right about botters being cheaters:
the root of the problem is jomax

[jabbers]

This is directed to those saying botting gives you real-life bad habits, ect. If we want to talk about "real-world ethics" to be learned from this game I think chargebacks are about the only issue that really matter, it have much more real-world implication than any other thing in silk, in fact the it's only thing that does. I see enough people talk about chargeback like it's all good, or that joymax has it coming and that chargeback is just a standard part of the procedure to "quit" the game. Any outsider looking in will agree. I'd prefer have kids walking away from this game thinking "it's best to take the easy route" rather than "fraud is OK."

[SwordCloud]

The best part of this forums is all that almost all part of people who still play this game bot or use loader,but of course here there are legit!(until they get bored and they selfown them self).
Peace!

[CrimsonNuker]

The best part of this forums is all that almost all part of people who still play this game bot or use loader,but of course here there are legit!(until they get bored and they selfown them self).
Peace!

Can't wait to see you in EB one day

[SwordCloud]

The best part of this forums is all that almost all part of people who still play this game bot or use loader,but of course here there are legit!(until they get bored and they selfown them self).
Peace!

Can't wait to see you in EB one day

You will wait forever,because I stopped leveling/grinding after reach lv 93,to hard for a real legit(Farm + need lv to 100),moreover many people with sun with the new magic pop stuff,just go in game for talk or kill some random lowlv who spam kill other low lv.

[NuclearSilo]

Very true. Its time all you people stop wasting your time blaming "botters". Cheating,stealing,lying are things that will never go away. Blame JM 100% for the bot problem. Like I said a long time ago,...you can't leave the doors of your house open and go out and when your stuff gets stolen you get angry and blame the thieves.

And? That example only show who is the one to blame. It doesn't prove that thieving is a right thing to do just because the thief got a good reason to be a thief. It also doesn't prove that thieving is good for any community or good for the environment.

[GateKeeper]

OFF Topic: This topic and "Why Continue" pretty much mean the same thing...so ima compy n paste my answer from the other topic
On Topic
This game is ruined.
It has one of the best graphics i ever seen ingame
Gameplay is amazing for euros
The skills are just pure smexy

BUT
It has full of trks running around asking for 10k
Spam bots
gold bots
greedy company known as geymax
server traffic
bots..bots..and more bots
ccfers
gold sellers
spawn campers
inflation in market due to goldbots once again

so u ask me why i bother to play?
i play for my friends
for my own entertainment(grinding n chilling with friends overseas)
it may b too much for some ppl to handle
but its at a tolerable level for me.

[AkillerNXC]

I lol'd at page one btw. I'm curious, did you ever have a character on babel? lulz, fail.

So now you you come and say something 4 pages in...why do i need a character on babel to see that u botted?

Twas busy with stuff. Because you don't know the person who took that ss, lulz. Plus, he's the only person on babel who'd say I botted, good luck finding anyone else that can say it. Me and him...haha. We'd argue for hours.

[.curve]

Very true. Its time all you people stop wasting your time blaming "botters". Cheating,stealing,lying are things that will never go away. Blame JM 100% for the bot problem. Like I said a long time ago,...you can't leave the doors of your house open and go out and when your stuff gets stolen you get angry and blame the thieves.

And? That example only show who is the one to blame. It doesn't prove that thieving is a right thing to do just because the thief got a good reason to be a thief. It also doesn't prove that thieving is good for any community or good for the environment.

No, but you sort of had it coming to you if you were that negligent about it.

[TeamLosi]

I lol'd at page one btw. I'm curious, did you ever have a character on babel? lulz, fail.

So now you you come and say something 4 pages in...why do i need a character on babel to see that u botted?

Twas busy with stuff. Because you don't know the person who took that ss, lulz. Plus, he's the only person on babel who'd say I botted, good luck finding anyone else that can say it. Me and him...haha. We'd argue for hours.

It doesnt matter if its just him who says u bot, the proof is right there.

[Azilius]

Has anyone thought about how it's partially our own faults for succumbing to the temptations of botting vs joymax's fault. Back in the old day, there were less bots since JM was actually running around asking ppl and banning them. Now, they don't even appear in the servers, which makes it the top game for me where you never see an admin in game. I really think it's Joymax's stance on botting that made people just not care anymore and start botting. Most of my friend's started off as non-botters, but shortly after 70 or 80 cap, they saw botters capped and safe. Hell, we even had botters bragging and daring JM to ban them so they can chargeback. They are still here playing today.

I think it's JM's conduct that led to botting being as rampant as it is today. If they had kept up that banning spree, banning playerbots by hand and goldbots automatically, this game would be alot cleaner with only a handful of botters secretly baby-sitting their bots.

+1

Very true. Its time all you people stop wasting your time blaming "botters". Cheating,stealing,lying are things that will never go away. Blame JM 100% for the bot problem. Like I said a long time ago,...you can't leave the doors of your house open and go out and when your stuff gets stolen you get angry and blame the thieves.

I used to spend a lot of time in the country with my grand parents. The house was never, ever locked. Nothing was ever stolen. Why? People that lived there weren't douchebags. You can and should blame the thieves. If not for the thieves your stuff wouldn't be stolen. So who's at fault? It's not illegal to leave your door unlocked but it is to steal.

^ yup

but people need scapegoats
most assumptions of people judging personality by wether they bot or not is 50/50,
people just want to see others get caught do divert from their own mistakes.
even though people are right about botters being cheaters:
the root of the problem is jomax

Oh god you people can't be blaming Joymax for this. It's your choice to bot..Joymaxs influence is only that, an influence. Sounds like you're using Joymax's lack of care as a scapegoat for botting.

Btw..Joymax never, EVER did huge, real bot bans. The time of the server lists was to late and they were only banning the lesser bots and if you go back further there were no 'big lists'. This game was never under GM observation. Saying the downfall of said observation was the reason people started to bot is bullshit. The game was always under terrible control and the reason bot population went up is because more people started to play, the cap got higher and it became harder to level.

[Pan_Raider(`_´)]

^ yup

but people need scapegoats
most assumptions of people judging personality by wether they bot or not is 50/50,
people just want to see others get caught do divert from their own mistakes.
even though people are right about botters being cheaters:
the root of the problem is jomax

Oh god you people can't be blaming Joymax for this. It's your choice to bot..Joymaxs influence is only that, an influence. Sounds like you're using Joymax's lack of care as a scapegoat for botting.

Spoiler!

its 50/50
first 50 is the opportunity to bot given by joymax.
the part where you choose is your decision
without the first part, botting wouldnt happen in the first place
what i actually meant with the scapegoating was to brand people as criminals in game and real life as the comparisons showed.
all humans are evil to a certain extent, some cheat in a game, others are collossal douches
some are just sadists but 1 is not necessarily linked to the other

Btw..Joymax never, EVER did huge, real bot bans. The time of the server lists was to late and they were only banning the lesser bots and if you go back further there were no 'big lists'. This game was never under GM observation. Saying the downfall of said observation was the reason people started to bot is bullshit. The game was always under terrible control and the reason bot population went up is because more people started to play, the cap got higher and it became harder to level.

+1
and people found a good cash drop since more people were willing to pay more money for the game.
The gameplay itself is very bot supportive anyway

[GateKeeper]

Time to forget the bots. Why bother with something that cannot be bothered? I see a bunch of desperate kids trying to figure out geymax when clearly it is unpredictable like a random segment of codes
Move on, bots win, we lose, only at the end do we understand, the glory days are over, considered urselves veeterans, play the game, dont complain, or dont play at all
Simple playground rules kids.