a str bower can beat.......

Skitsefrenik · Post by **Skitsefrenik** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:02 pm

as long as the bow keeps on criting...it can kill anything.

badKarma · Post by **badKarma** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:48 pm

Skitsefrenik wrote:as long as the bow keeps on criting...it can kill anything.

=__= .... this is like saying as long as a glaiver stuns with soul spear you win!! Lately, your posts have been rather pathetic and i see it as spam(might've been all the time, or maybe im just ignorant). Personally the way i see it, you can't rely on your bow to crit everytime, but you can expect a bower to crit you qutie often. Confusing is it? Think of it in different perspectives. Or just hang out in the various gates of DW.

Anyways, not everyone has a 16 crit bow, and imo a 9-10 crit bow doesnt guarentee you will, crit, crit, crit, hit, hit, crit etc... its more like the other way around. And even with anti devil you cant rely on crit too much.

The deciding factor all depends on equipment... i can beat my friend's glaiver almost instantly, who's 2 levels higher, but i have 4 sos including weapon on me and a phy balance of 103% meaning i got a crapload of +3 str stuff. But on the other hand, its a total pot war with my friend's blader who has crappy gear, but a 17 block shield, and a decent lvl knockdown/stab.

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:04 am

man you are kidna ignorant yes, pure str bower can tank quite alot so the match will drag on a while, i'm sure with crit 9 - 10 bow, u wil get a few nice crits throughout the game and if u are in trouble just zerk the twat always my option if i see a blader or glavie, dnt wanna waste all my pots in 1 hunter/thief fight.

Skitsefrenik · Post by **Skitsefrenik** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:28 am

badKarma wrote:
Skitsefrenik wrote:as long as the bow keeps on criting...it can kill anything.

=__= .... this is like saying as long as a glaiver stuns with soul spear you win!! Lately, your posts have been rather pathetic and i see it as spam(might've been all the time, or maybe im just ignorant). Personally the way i see it, you can't rely on your bow to crit everytime, but you can expect a bower to crit you qutie often. Confusing is it? Think of it in different perspectives. Or just hang out in the various gates of DW.

Anyways, not everyone has a 16 crit bow, and imo a 9-10 crit bow doesnt guarentee you will, crit, crit, crit, hit, hit, crit etc... its more like the other way around. And even with anti devil you cant rely on crit too much.

The deciding factor all depends on equipment... i can beat my friend's glaiver almost instantly, who's 2 levels higher, but i have 4 sos including weapon on me and a phy balance of 103% meaning i got a crapload of +3 str stuff. But on the other hand, its a total pot war with my friend's blader who has crappy gear, but a 17 block shield, and a decent lvl knockdown/stab.

but its basically true. if a bow can get good 4-5 crits in(anti devil/beserk and a atleast 1 combo)...it has 90% chance to win. if a glavie can get stun with crit....its deadly.

if u wanna zerk with bow.....zerk first and zerk far away.

Penguin13 · Post by **Penguin13** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 3:54 am

Get a good bow, and you pwn. My friend has an SoM+5 bow, and he's killing people 5+ levels higher than him.

bleaK · Post by **bleaK** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 3:58 am

AvAlAnChE1 wrote:Bow does good against INT's

only cuz of crits

if they dont crit (or if i block). 2 nukes and a kd and hes down...

btw im hybrid s/s thou

WindSlicer · Post by **WindSlicer** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:03 am

I can 1 nuke an archer my level...

But those crits are deadly.

HertogJan · Post by **HertogJan** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 6:35 am

I can take on lvl 42 + nukers, but it indeed depends if they stun or if i crit. i am lvl 38. lvl 35+5 bow crit 9 ^^

grant902 · Post by **grant902** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:45 am

i am a low lvl pure str fire bow...do i really need to farm sp with 6-8 gap or stop with 5???
do i really need to get lvl 10 glvie mastery(passive to have more hp). and do i need to get buffs on ice and lightning?????how many times will i master my grasswalk????

kitary · Post by **kitary** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:53 am

kd + stap + ghostwalk pwns devil bow series , strong bow series and explosive arrow series

all thats left is arrow combo
and that cant realy kill

Bower · Post by **Bower** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:07 am

kitary wrote:kd + stap + ghostwalk pwns devil bow series , strong bow series and explosive arrow series

Thats too general and too theorical! PVP depends on a lot of controling and trivial stuff.

I am 57 lvl pure str Bower, +5 bow, and can kill anyone same lvl with me! For lower lvl int, one shot, one died. Even though sometimes I get killed too (much less than I KILL people), if you never get killed in the game, why do you still play it. I mean there is no more fun, is it?

kitary · Post by **kitary** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:40 am

you have never been knocked to the ground over and over and over and over and over by a blader or sword have you ?

thay have 3 kd moves , thay can get 2 sometimes 3 of these moves in befor you can fire of a slow move , you will get kd and cant fire , thats when the dubble or tripple stabs come in , followed by a nova woods if your not cold imune , than they repeat the kd attacks ,

have fun trying to fire of 1 strong bow , devil bow , or explosion arrow

just hope that IF you manage to get the arrow flying that it kills instantly
or ells its back to the ground for j00 and full pot chance for the s/s or blader .

archers can only kill 1 type of char in 1 vs 1 imo , and thats full int , but with kd+ stab and butten controll that int has just about asmuch chance to stay alive long enuf to either kill you or bore you to death
basicaly your hoping on winning by critt from slow moves
not a good tactic when the oponent is doing anything he can to stop you from charging your str nuke ( aka devil bow , strong bow , X plotion arrow)

Bower · Post by **Bower** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:24 am

kitary wrote:you have never been knocked to the ground over and over and over and over and over by a blader or sword have you ?

thay have 3 kd moves , thay can get 2 sometimes 3 of these moves in befor you can fire of a slow move , you will get kd and cant fire , thats when the dubble or tripple stabs come in , followed by a nova woods if your not cold imune , than they repeat the kd attacks ,

have fun trying to fire of 1 strong bow , devil bow , or explosion arrow

just hope that IF you manage to get the arrow flying that it kills instantly
or ells its back to the ground for j00 and full pot chance for the s/s or blader .

archers can only kill 1 type of char in 1 vs 1 imo , and thats full int , but with kd+ stab and butten controll that int has just about asmuch chance to stay alive long enuf to either kill you or bore you to death
basicaly your hoping on winning by critt from slow moves
not a good tactic when the oponent is doing anything he can to stop you from charging your str nuke ( aka devil bow , strong bow , X plotion arrow)

of course, I have been Knockdown+Stab! But with Ghostwalk, Frost Nova and the PVP skill(experience), the chance I get knockdown is the same with what you think that I can pwn you with a crit of strong bow , devil bow , or explosion arrow.

BTW I have a 44 lvl int hybrid sword too

Bower · Post by **Bower** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:38 am

grant902 wrote:i am a low lvl pure str fire bow...do i really need to farm sp with 6-8 gap or stop with 5???
do i really need to get lvl 10 glvie mastery(passive to have more hp). and do i need to get buffs on ice and lightning?????how many times will i master my grasswalk????

I did all you mentioned above

kitary · Post by **kitary** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:43 am

the chance I get knockdown is the same with what you think that I can pwn you with a crit of strong bow , devil bow , or explosion arrow.

i dint realy get this part , wat are you trying to say here ?

Bower · Post by **Bower** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:50 am

kitary wrote:
the chance I get knockdown is the same with what you think that I can pwn you with a crit of strong bow , devil bow , or explosion arrow.

i dint realy get this part , wat are you trying to say here ?

when 1 on 1 bower vs hybrid sword (same lvl), both have a equal oppotunity of winning. depends on the control and luck! !(Shield can block my shot, meanwhile a good bow can shoot a lot of crits!)

kitary · Post by **kitary** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:24 am

not realy
the multiple disable effects the player with kd has vs the No disable skills a bow has pull the match in favor of the kd using player

luck is luck true , but luck can be pulled to your side and give you a higher chance to a win a 1 vs 1
the one with the highest win chance is the one that has the match in his favor , ofcourse this isnt 100% garantie , but is sure as hell is more than the 50 50 you claim it to be

HertogJan · Post by **HertogJan** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:34 pm

and that is why the bow has the skill that makes the distance they can attack on bigger. (forgot the name). I have that skill not really up to date, but can kill a blader of my level, Cause they just take to long to get to me, and there long distance attacks i can pot away.

IMO bow is suposed to have the suprise, if you dont have the suprise dont pick the fight. Atleast that is my theorie against people of my lvl ^^

kitary · Post by **kitary** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:47 pm

kitary wrote:
kd + stap + ghostwalk pwns devil bow series , strong bow series and explosive arrow series

range ?? wut range im like right here knockdowning you

HertogJan · Post by **HertogJan** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:14 pm

that is if i dont have the suprise, IF i have the suprise what ghostwalk? the one i have also?

Up close i will lose of any blader or glavier with stun or kd.

But my dear i was also talking about the suprise factor. And everybody has phantomwalk, so that doesnt really say anything

Post by **Ryoko** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 6:23 pm

kitary wrote:you have never been knocked to the ground over and over and over and over and over by a blader or sword have you ?

KD is only 50% chance and doesnt hapen over and over unless its two STR cuz they can't kill eachother and its a pot fight.

Int die with 1 good devil bow and a 4 arrow. No one high uses strongbow anymore either, which is the only slow one.

kitary wrote:

thay have 3 kd moves , thay can get 2 sometimes 3 of these moves in befor you can fire of a slow move , you will get kd and cant fire , thats when the dubble or tripple stabs come in , followed by a nova woods if your not cold imune , than they repeat the kd attacks ,

That kinda sound like kids when they play GI-Joe's, they make up scenarios and give their guy powers.

It not gonna happen every time.

kitary wrote:
have fun trying to fire of 1 strong bow , devil bow , or explosion arrow

No one should use strongbow. the other two are no slower than nuke.

kitary wrote:
just hope that IF you manage to get the arrow flying that it kills instantly
or ells its back to the ground for j00 and full pot chance for the s/s or blader .

Excluding blader, knockdown not a bother. Stand up and devil bow again. Eventually the ints 50% chance runs short.

kitary wrote:
basicaly your hoping on winning by critt from slow moves

DB is no slower than nuke.

Hippocryte, hopeing to win on a 50% chance move as well, that doesnt do double damage like the crit+30% chance does

....

All insisting bow sux. Go fight DarkJackal. You'll see.

They lose and come to forum and call him 'DarkJackAss' cuz theyre mad. So sad ^^

Bow is a balanced part of the game and should never do the same damage as glaive or nuke.

If it did, the game would be incredibly unfair that bow gets 18m+ range and glaive does not. You would own everyone and they'd all be bow.

If you base your character on how well u stand there and cape 1v1, then you missed the point completely. It doesnt apply to training, jobs, or war.

Neirie · Post by **Neirie** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 6:44 pm

team effort, tactics and player ability are a major part.

give a noob a level 70 and he couldn't fight anyone within 10 levels.

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