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Don't know if this has been posted before but I've been watching this series so far and I like it...

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Aight posted 7 episodes, just watch them then give a reply not just the first one.
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You can't base every creationist off of the opinions of a single one. I'm an atheist but I respect the beliefs of others. I could document a very stupid atheist and make a video just like that...but it proves absolutely nothing.
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Azilius wrote:You can't base every creationist off of the opinions of a single one. I'm an atheist but I respect the beliefs of others. I could document a very stupid atheist and make a video just like that...but it proves absolutely nothing.
umm...thats why it's a series? you watch the whole thing not just one episode. And I assure you he just doesn't atk one idiot.
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A bit of a 1 sided view perhaps, to me its an endless debate, no one can absolutely prove atheism since there are always things we can't understand in the universe, in contrast no one can absolutely prove the existence of a Godly being either, since His existence is based on faith.
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I'm glad somebody took the time to make a video of what pretty much everyone was thinking while listening to that guy's senseless babbling.

If there is a god, it's incredibly selfish and narrow-minded to believe Earth is the sole planet with his gift of life in the universe. To extend that and say Earth is the only planet capable of sustaining life in the universe, or even the galaxy, is just moronic.

Did god create the universe for us to just stare at for millions of years? I don't think so. But, if you believe life does not exist beyond Earth, then why else would god have created it?
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destructionmama wrote:A bit of a 1 sided view perhaps, to me its an endless debate, no one can absolutely prove atheism since there are always things we can't understand in the universe, in contrast no one can absolutely prove the existence of a Godly being either, since His existence is based on faith.
I don't believe he trying to prove atheism in anyway, he's just pointing out why people laugh at creationists. I mean come on Grand Canyon in 5 minutes? I think I'm going to have to post more videos or every reply just be a review of this one episode.
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John_Doe wrote:
Azilius wrote:You can't base every creationist off of the opinions of a single one. I'm an atheist but I respect the beliefs of others. I could document a very stupid atheist and make a video just like that...but it proves absolutely nothing.
umm...thats why it's a series? you watch the whole thing not just one episode. And I assure you he just doesn't atk one idiot.


I guess you didn't get my point -_-. Even if they were to interview 100 creationists that's only a very small percent of them. It's like interviewing 500 stupid black people and saying all black people should be laughed at.
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Azilius wrote:
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Azilius wrote:You can't base every creationist off of the opinions of a single one. I'm an atheist but I respect the beliefs of others. I could document a very stupid atheist and make a video just like that...but it proves absolutely nothing.
umm...thats why it's a series? you watch the whole thing not just one episode. And I assure you he just doesn't atk one idiot.


I guess you didn't get my point -_-. Even if they were to interview 100 creationists that's only a very small percent of them. It's like interviewing 500 stupid black people and saying all black people should be laughed at. Here is were your logic would fail, if you interviewed 500 stupid black ppl of no apperent interest to anyone no one would care, am I right? But if you interviewed like say Morgan Freeman and it turned out he was an idiot, or that Obama was an idiot or that Samuel Jackson was an idiot we would a group of people think twice whenever we look at "black people" But then again comparing a race of people to a theory that people believe in just doesn't feel the same.
Umm...again looks like you didn't watch the whole thing, he starts the series completely owning an idioit then goes onto people like Jonathan Wells who has 2 PhDs (both legits), Kent Hovind who came up with the "Hovind theory", Ken Ham...so he isn't just "interviewing random stupid people" Here is another example, if we interviewed a normal black guy and Obama, who's answers to the questions would you care about the most if they were to be asked the same questions wether it be about dogs or to the war in Iraq. Most of you would say Obama right? And why is that?
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I guess you don't get my point. I'm trying to say it is stupid to call creationists as a whole stupid (or laughable) because not ALL of them are (unless of course you can prove that). All of this falls around the whole..religion on internet = fail.
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Azilius wrote:I guess you don't get my point. I'm trying to say it is stupid to call creationists as a whole stupid (or laughable) because not ALL of them are (unless of course you can prove that). I truely don't think the videos are trying to prove these people as idiots, instead just that the basic idea/beliefs/theory that all creationist believe/share is stupid, I mean they all share the same belief/ideas or they wouldn't call themselves creationist right? Or do we have different branchs of creationist that I don't know about. All of this falls around the whole..religion on internet = fail.Don't give me any of this internet=fail BS, Debates will take place on the internet as we as a society progress, TV will be a thing of the past.
I get your point, don't take me for an idiot, you stated that if you take a sample it must represent the whole, and for that sample you use "black people", and I said that wouldn't work as there are some people with creditably while there are some with zero who we wouldn't give a dam if they were stupid or not, plus to compare a race of people to a idea/theory that a group of "People" believe in is not the same.

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Watch till the end, if a random stupid black guy can do that with a group of kids then I'll be dam, this is again with your example of black people.

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Again give me a clip of a stupid black guy who has gone on national TV? Advocating his ignorance to the millions of people who are watching?
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Need I say more? I in no way adovcate Atheism I merely posted the vids to show the pawnage of these idiots...believe what you want.
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I just watched the entire series. Good shit John_Doe.

Personally I'm on the side of science, but I'm not about to say there was never a greater power. There are as he says unknowns in the universe, but just because it's unknown doesn't mean God did it. I'm basically in agreement with everything that can be physically proven and theorized with reasoning and science, yet I'm not uncomfortable saying that because we don't exactly know how the universe began, it is possible there was a power beyond our comprehension at one point that started everything. Science is our explanation for the universe as we currently know it.

If mankind manages to progress enough regardless of creationism slowing it down, maybe it will find the big answers in the future.
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:D glad to hear, I hope he makes some more.
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Honestly I prefer the title of agnostic. I believe in science over religion, but I guess I'm open to the fact that there could be some "God" out there. Until it's clearly proven though, science will prevail. To me at least.
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.curve wrote:Honestly I prefer the title of agnostic. I believe in science over religion, but I guess I'm open to the fact that there could be some "God" out there. Until it's clearly proven though, science will prevail. To me at least.


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Azilius wrote:You can't base every creationist off of the opinions of a single one. I'm an atheist but I respect the beliefs of others. I could document a very stupid atheist and make a video just like that...but it proves absolutely nothing.


I'm not saying that all Christians or all Muslims think alike just because they belong in the same religion. However, I do have to point out that they do dip their fingers in the same bowl - that is their "holy book" whether it is the Bible, the Koran, or the Avesta. Being an atheist on the other hand simply means we don't believe in god - that we don't have a god. That means that no matter how delusional their thoughts or beliefs may be, as long as it doesn't involve (a) theistic god(s) or deity (deities) in any way, shape, or form, they are still atheists (or agnostic depending on their belief).
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in contrast no one can absolutely prove the existence of a Godly being either, since His existence is based on faith.


Which is why you can't prove someone to be an "idiot" for believing in something unseen.

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Science vs religion again is an endless debate. If god exists, he creates science, too perfect that there isn't any loophole to make human believe that he exists.
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destructionmama wrote:A bit of a 1 sided view perhaps, to me its an endless debate, no one can absolutely prove atheism since there are always things we can't understand in the universe, in contrast no one can absolutely prove the existence of a Godly being either, since His existence is based on faith.


+1 thats correct...though you have to say creationists have been hanging on to "faith" for a long time still with no results and continue to ridicule Atheists and science.
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NuclearSilo wrote:Science vs religion again is an endless debate. If god exists, he creates science, too perfect that there isn't any loophole to make human believe that he exists.


What god would create something that disproves his existence, his very method of creating the universe? A test of faith would not be saying one thing, then putting into existence things that contradict everything you previously said. The best example of this would be saying the earth is only 6000 years old, yet there are fossils which can be scientifically carbon dated to millions of years ago.

Atheism vs. Religion is an endless debate. Science vs. Religion is a senseless debate.
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What? Who said that the Earth is only 6000 years old?
Yes, God contradicts himself by making science too perfect that no one believe in him but science, but that's why he left his traces through the Bible, predictions, etc...
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Ever wonder why the Hebrew calendar is at year 5769?
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Uhm, Hebrew, this species were dead. Some told that in 2012, a plantet X will crash the earth
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Just want to share this to people, The Simulation Argument.
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.curve wrote:Honestly I prefer the title of agnostic. I believe in science over religion, but I guess I'm open to the fact that there could be some "God" out there. Until it's clearly proven though, science will prevail. To me at least.


Agnosticism deals with knowledge. I am an agnostic atheist.

Agnosticism = Existence of deity cannot be known
Atheism = No belief in deity

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NuclearSilo wrote:Uhm, Hebrew, this species were dead. Some told that in 2012, a plantet X will crash the earth


Uh. Ok then.
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NuclearSilo wrote:Uhm, Hebrew, this species were dead. Some told that in 2012, a plantet X will crash the earth

Why do you have to troll again... /facepalm/ignore forever


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Once i met a witness of yehova who wanted to convert me with some blather about how god will save me and so on.
I listened to him and after his speach i asked for 5 minutes to say my opinion.

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"Assumed God created us and assumed he shaped us after himself, also gave us free will and the ability to think, to evolve and blah blah blah
Do you think we should obey without any question living cluelessly? If you are happy coz god is with you even if you dont understand him, what do you think he feels as he looks upon you and all he get is "yes master"?" If there is a god.
He is alone.
If we are shaped after the image of god we all know what a cruel fate it/he/she has.
So instead of obeying blindly we should think, understand, and think again -> the way of science.
Religion is a false answer to insecurity what binds us in one place instead of bringing closer to god. Most famous scientists were buddhists or they studied other religions which implies deep in our heart we all know there is someting behind all creation.
You should learn and try to see everything instead of closing your eyes and follow blindly.
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poor dude just stood there for like 1-2mins...
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These kind of threads occur here on regular base so i just repeat myself.

We dont understand. It is simple as this.
What we dont understand we wont know. Understanding and describing god or anything what we could call as "creator" is destined to fail.
Even if we could see events clearly in space time and our mind would perceive things how they are in reality, we still could'nt understand creation or w/e believers say creation is.
The only way i can imagine here is to work hard, keep an open mind, learn from our mistakes and try to understand ourselfs and each other,
coz even this simple thing we can not do.
If you think a bit, you realize you live to fit in. You live to do what other people like. Our reality is based upon common beliefs and not facts. If you look at things closely, you realize you dont know them. Most of your sight or anything you perceive is made up by your mind, etc etc etc

Creationism and other beliefs what say "we are the cool ones" are nothing but deception and soil for arrogance and selfishness. A false hope for weak ppl who seek shelter from themselfs.
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Well it certainly seems retarded, that "theres must be a maker because the chances are w/e", it's like they are thinking of earth before any life, and that this planet is supposed to get life and they are just simply waiting for it to happen, but the chances are so little that there must be a god to do it. But the chances aren't little, It's like throwing a marble in a desert or something, its obviously gonna land somewhere, so what makes the place it lands so special that it couldn't of been a coincidence. I guess you would have to beelive that in the vastness of the universe that there would be an enormous deserts worth of habitable planets though, and we just happen to be 1 in countless others.
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Remembers the universe is about 95% of dark matter. So even if there are species in the Moon, Jupiter or whatever, they are invisible to us. Therefore, humans think that they are the only one who exist.
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NuclearSilo wrote:Remembers the universe is about 95% of dark matter. So even if there are species in the Moon, Jupiter or whatever, they are invisible to us. Therefore, humans think that they are the only one who exist.
Which humans? The idiots? DUH!
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