How Goldbots can be stopped

slimshady · Post by **slimshady** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:20 pm

All Joymax has to do is take out the ability to purchase npc gear on all degrees. I have heard that the goldbots bot buys new npc items by themselves as they level up. I'm sure each computer runs a full 30 clientless goldbots and there is no way someone would want to log on each bot and check their inventory and storage for new items they could wear. If they did, they have no life and it would really slow down the bots so much that they might just give up. At least it would slow them down, heck on my server I seen a lvl 85+ goldbots on antinokes...thats just sorry. Sure it would be a little harder at low levels starting a new character, but just grind and pick up your drops to wear and you will be fine. We are getting along just fine with no 10D NPC items. Shall I send JM an email and ask them to take it out? This might also make the game a smaller size to download.

Discuss the pros and cons...

Insanity · Post by **Insanity** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:25 pm

the cons: legits will never have the proper gear and will never be able to lvl up because they have no gear.
the bots will just make wiz's or something and grind on lower lvl mobs to where they 1 hit everything.

the pros: i cant think of any... it would completely discourage anyone new from playing the game.

OnlyMe · Post by **OnlyMe** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:25 pm

Just make a pin code each time you want to open your storage. And make it only work with mouse clicks.

I doubt anyone wants to login so many clients each time thy go to town to just enter the storage.

I_R_Powerpuff · Post by **I_R_Powerpuff** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:25 pm

Well, no cons really. It will greatly increase the trade of low level items but there is a possibility that there will be almost no low level items since not many people are lowbies.

firefox6 · Post by **firefox6** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:31 pm

they would just make the bot wear the best drops it gets.. making the gold bot even better at killing and faster.. i think they do that now with weapons.. as i have seen many gold bots with sos

Sleepy · Post by **Sleepy** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:47 pm

Stupid idea to be honest, gold bots wear what they drop if It's better than what they have.

The way to get rid of goldbots is easy,a company that cares about It's game and users.

Ramidux · Post by **Ramidux** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:48 pm

OnlyMe wrote:Just make a pin code each time you want to open your storage. And make it only work with mouse clicks.

I doubt anyone wants to login so many clients each time thy go to town to just enter the storage.

That wouldnt stop bots, but clientless maybe

slimshady · Post by **slimshady** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:01 pm

ofy1993 wrote:well that is a great idea. Then, we wouldn't have to NPC low lvl drops anymore cause they would be worth a lot. And for low lvls to make more money, they would trade more often.

Again,

Great Idea, but Joymax won't!

that's the message I'm gonna put on every thread that deserves it ^^

Thanks, I really think it would help. You are probably right about them not doing it though. Even if it is just a matter of deleting some of the codes in the programming. I'm sure its easier to delete than adding and changing code.

chizz · Post by **chizz** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:36 pm

yeah except you forgot that joymax doesnt care

Tasdik · Post by **Tasdik** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:46 pm

If Joymax really wanted to stop the goldbots they could easily. But they don't so they won't.

OnlyMe · Post by **OnlyMe** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:59 pm

Ramidux wrote:
OnlyMe wrote:Just make a pin code each time you want to open your storage. And make it only work with mouse clicks.

I doubt anyone wants to login so many clients each time thy go to town to just enter the storage.

That wouldnt stop bots, but clientless maybe

Clientless = goldbots = traffic. So if those are gone SRO would be hella better

I_R_Powerpuff · Post by **I_R_Powerpuff** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:02 pm

It's because of Clientless that the server is constantly ~0% PoC now.

Swindler · Post by **Swindler** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:05 pm

Just remove the god damn gold drops and everything will be fine.

marijnz0r · Post by **marijnz0r** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:05 pm

What is JM's problem?
Disable clientless.
MAXIMUM 2 SRO running per IP.
Problems?

Ash · Post by **Ash** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:18 pm

1st of all at a certain point gold bots don't level up (gap 9) cuz we see same gold bots at the same spots every day .

2nd i see at DH gold bots holding sos weapons & who know if they are wearing sos too (so i guess they use the stalls not all npc) .

as discussed before the only 2 solutions for gold bots & botters is
1- stop the drops after a certain time of playing .
2-minimize teh number of players/ip

Amarisa · Post by **Amarisa** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:48 pm

if they limit ip that wont do any good theres programs that hide the ip and change it so fail. clientless could still send in mouse clicks btw it just has to tell the sro client that it is clicking the mouse at X,Y on the screen another fail. i mean clientless can log in without any help so why would a pin code on storage work? only thing i see working is drops stopping after awhile but that means that they just make a script were when that timer runs out it logs onto another account........so really nothing helps. only REAL way to stop it is active GMs but that aint happening. not to be mean to anyone just being a programmer its kinda hard to see it your way because with programming if theres a will theres a way.

penfold1992 · Post by **penfold1992** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:56 pm

HOW MANY GOLD BOTS DO U SEE THAT DONT WEAR SOS!

most gold bots above 40 wear or use sos.
they get enough gold from botting so they keep the sosuns and stuff until they run short.

I_R_Powerpuff · Post by **I_R_Powerpuff** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:07 pm

HejsaN wrote:Just remove the god damn gold drops and everything will be fine.

Maybe the feared tradebots will come back?

Swindler · Post by **Swindler** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:09 pm

I_R_Powerpuff wrote:
HejsaN wrote:Just remove the god damn gold drops and everything will be fine.

Maybe the feared tradebots will come back?

Well, atleast there are trading going on then.

Toshiharu · Post by **Toshiharu** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:27 pm

I'm just guessing on this, but I bet they're automated to use what gear they got and buy any gear if it's better than their current gear. I just believe it's this because if you've noticed some gold bots use some SOX weapons and random +7s(and a +9 sword which was posted here).

slimshady · Post by **slimshady** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 2:43 am

I_R_Powerpuff wrote:
HejsaN wrote:Just remove the god damn gold drops and everything will be fine.

Maybe the feared tradebots will come back?

lol tradebots would be fun to rob.

on topic: to stop goldbots from playing, no more new characters can be created, and slowly with the weak ass weekly bot bans, the goldbots would be eliminated 1 by 1 and no way to recreate their characters

dark_wizz · Post by **dark_wizz** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 2:59 am

slimshady wrote:...no more new characters can be created...

let's say u get lvl100 ff, full sun set etc. and u want to play from the begining and feel the fun of bieing a "n00b" player killing earth ghosts or so... oh no, u can't create new char because joymax decide do disable making new char...
sound realy stupid to me :banghead:

MiKe 51-50 · Post by **MiKe 51-50** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:02 am

No matter what they add into the game, a program can do it.

Diaty · Post by **Diaty** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:45 am

I like how all these legits in here are worrying so much about them having problems to connect, that they want to remove gold drops. What about people that feshly join the game, that is going to go over well. Start of fresh and not be able to buy potions or anything...

And not being able to buy low level gear will drive the price up of the gear? What kind of BS is that? There are not too many new players that join that need low level gear, nor high levels can drop low level gear. Plus, how would you buy that gear without gold?

Flawed flawed flawed.

slimshady · Post by **slimshady** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:03 pm

Diaty wrote:I like how all these legits in here are worrying so much about them having problems to connect, that they want to remove gold drops. What about people that feshly join the game, that is going to go over well. Start of fresh and not be able to buy potions or anything...

And not being able to buy low level gear will drive the price up of the gear? What kind of BS is that? There are not too many new players that join that need low level gear, nor high levels can drop low level gear. Plus, how would you buy that gear without gold?

Flawed flawed flawed.

no one starts out with gold, you have to grind to get gold and drops to wear. it wouldnt be hard.

LaloHao · Post by **LaloHao** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:08 pm

HejsaN wrote:Just remove the god damn gold drops and everything will be fine.

And how would you buy someone equipment if you don't have gold -.-

marijnz0r wrote:What is JM's problem?
Disable clientless.
MAXIMUM 2 SRO running per IP.
Problems?

yes

Swindler · Post by **Swindler** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:36 pm

LaloHao wrote:
HejsaN wrote:Just remove the god damn gold drops and everything will be fine.

And how would you buy someone equipment if you don't have gold -.-

Getting more gold by doing quests, and the main reason to earn gold was to trade, right? Just increase the quest rewards and the trade profit and everything should be alright.

ouifuc · Post by **ouifuc** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:33 pm

cons: prices would skyrocket because there would be no standard price for items.

marijnz0r wrote:What is JM's problem?
Disable clientless.
MAXIMUM 2 SRO running per IP.
Problems?

all the goldbots have to do is redirect their IP address and they could have unlimited SRO's again.

Fermions · Post by **Fermions** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 1:50 am

no gold drops, worst idea ever :banghead:

NuclearSilo · Post by **NuclearSilo** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:36 am

only works if they re-made the trade system.
But if it's so, they'd lose money coz ppl would buy less grab pet. At lvl 90, you hardly gain a valuable drop in 1 hour hunt.

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