Canadian Seal Hunt 2009

[_Lana_]

The point is that they kill a lot of them,waste them <so the polar bears will die because hunger>,take the fur and sell it,that a lot of fur and it probably costs a lot.
And im not buying the story about keeping their numbers low because theres a lot of them.
Before nature had many more of them and was just fine,now because the situation animals die from pollution,global warnings so its not that high and still they kill 350 000+ babys ? Its not about humans need in their "cycle" its the stupid need for money. Those people who kill are lazy to work honestly so they go kill easy targets and get rich... Yeah baby seals will hurt them,they risk their life trying to one hit KO them with a baseball bat... Yeah

Please...

Complain about fishing
Complain about deer hunting
Complain about natives doing what they have been allowed to do for thousands of years

It is well-regulated and while it may not be "cool" (awww, poor seals never hurt anyone, neither did deer, fish, crows, etc, etc) if they are allowed to breed unchecked the result is the same: They overpopulate and die off due to starvation or disease or something else.

People need to learn about fishing for survining and fishing for fun.
I don't really support people who fish or hunt for fun.Play football or basketball because thats a sport.

I don't really want to bring religion in this,but i remember something that my teacher told me. "The "god" created animals for us to survive,he didn't create them to entertain ourselves by killing them"

Yes,i understand that some "seal hunters" didn't have much options there to make money.

But they aren't doomed to stay there and kill such large numbers.

Why ?


Kind of stupid if you take anything in this thread seriously. It's just a bunch of kids thinking they are all grown up by supporting shit like this. It happens all the time .. seal population is big enough to deal with it ... so who cares ? I'll tell you who cares: FAGGOTS do.

I guess people should stop fishing too then ? Afterall we catch, kill, consume. Better still, let's just become hardcore vegan's.

höhö well said

Lol still dare to post ? <_<

[R-um]

<<I got banned.>>

[pr0klobster]

People need to learn about fishing for survining and fishing for fun.
I don't really support people who fish or hunt for fun.Play football or basketball because thats a sport.

Sorry...it's a sport to someone. Fishing or hunting for fun results in large revenues for the states and the gov't. Here in MN, a lot of the lottery revenues go back to keeping wetlands and wildlife areas active and repopulated.

I don't really want to bring religion in this,but i remember something that my teacher told me. "The "god" created animals for us to survive,he didn't create them to entertain ourselves by killing them"

Interpretation of God's word...and misinterpretation...has been going on for centuries. If you believe in God all you can do is follow the tenets of the Bible as best as you can. If you believe in "the god" not just "God" did he/she/it write down what you should do with the animals or how to treat the planet "the god" provided?

Yes,i understand that some "seal hunters" didn't have much options there to make money.

But they aren't doomed to stay there and kill such large numbers.

I'm not disagreeing or agreeing with you (or the seal hunters), but why not put out some links to non-environmental groups to go with the environmental groups like PETA? Show both sides and see if people might lean one way or the other.

[_Lana_]

Sorry...it's a sport to someone. Fishing or hunting for fun results in large revenues for the states and the gov't. Here in MN, a lot of the lottery revenues go back to keeping wetlands and wildlife areas active and repopulated.

Sadly most of people around here don't really repopulate anything.

Interpretation of God's word...and misinterpretation...has been going on for centuries. If you believe in God all you can do is follow the tenets of the Bible as best as you can. If you believe in "the god" not just "God" did he/she/it write down what you should do with the animals or how to treat the planet "the god" provided

Im not really a religious nut,but he had a point.Killing deers for braging/getting some fun isn't really something much to be proud of.Maybe in their books it is but i found killing and putting deer heads on the wall of your house wrong.

Yes,i understand that some "seal hunters" didn't have much options there to make money.

But they aren't doomed to stay there and kill such large numbers.

PETA was sometimes strange,but there is more groups like that.
People can't "solo" save the world,still there is a line.

[izmeister]

So I guess we should not use wood in our houses anymore...after all we ARE destroying other bird's homes and killing baby birds.

[_Lana_]

So I guess we should not use wood in our houses anymore...after all we ARE destroying other bird's homes and killing baby birds.

Thats impossible not to happen,but theres a big difference between that and killing 300k baby seals,taking their fur and leaving the rest there....

[Reise]

Thats impossible not to happen,but theres a big difference between that and killing 300k baby seals,taking their fur and leaving the rest there....

Yeap.

You fish, you catch and eat, or put the fish back in the water.
You hunt, you take the deer back and dress/eat.
You cut trees down, people grow more elsewhere.

Seal hunting would be totally fine by me if they didn't just take the skins, and if it didn't hurt the population of either the seals or other animals.

[izmeister]

So I guess we should not use wood in our houses anymore...after all we ARE destroying other bird's homes and killing baby birds.

Thats impossible not to happen,but theres a big difference between that and killing 300k baby seals,taking their fur and leaving the rest there....

You honestly think the lumber jacks take the dead baby birds and bury them or something? Besides, there already is an alternative to wooden homes. Steel or even cement would work.

[_Lana_]

So I guess we should not use wood in our houses anymore...after all we ARE destroying other bird's homes and killing baby birds.

Thats impossible not to happen,but theres a big difference between that and killing 300k baby seals,taking their fur and leaving the rest there....

You honestly think the lumber jacks take the dead baby birds and bury them or something? Besides, there already is an alternative to wooden homes. Steel or even cement would work.

Lumberjacks do this then ?

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[izmeister]

Thats impossible not to happen,but theres a big difference between that and killing 300k baby seals,taking their fur and leaving the rest there....

You honestly think the lumber jacks take the dead baby birds and bury them or something? Besides, there already is an alternative to wooden homes. Steel or even cement would work.

Lumberjacks do this then ?

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Spoiler!

No, they leave the helpless baby bird stuck on the ground to die a slow, painful of hunger, but your avoiding my point. Do you honestly think that people should stop using wood in our homes since there are alternatives readily available and save these birds? Or are these birds less important then these seals?

[_Lana_]

Do you honestly think that people should stop using wood in our homes since there are alternatives readily available and save these birds?

Wood > Homes for people to live
Seal Fur > Fashion clothes for celebs

Cutting forest and not replanting it is also bad,a lot is cut in amazon rainforest's.
And that place has millions of animals,plants,insects.

[izmeister]

Do you honestly think that people should stop using wood in our homes since there are alternatives readily available and save these birds?

Wood > Homes for people to live
Seal Fur > Fashion clothes for celebs

Cutting forest and not replanting it is also bad,a lot is cut in amazon rainforest's.
And that place has millions of animals,plants,insects.

Wood is only used because its cheaper and lighter, so in your logic its only used for "the stupid need for money." Steel and cement houses are superior in almost every way possible, so the killing of these birds is not needed, but obviously these seals are more important

This was quoted from another source

The seal population has to be controlled because they kill so many fish. I didn't say eat so many fish, i said kill so many fish. Have you ever seen a fish that a seal 'ate'? Seals just take one bite out of a fish's belly and then they leave the fish struggling in the water with its entrails hanging out. The seal doesn't bother to make sure the fish is dead before harming it, the seal doesn't even consume the whole fish. They simply bite chunks out and leave the fish alive and suffering.

Tell me, whats so cute about that? Why would I save something like that?

[_Lana_]

Do you honestly think that people should stop using wood in our homes since there are alternatives readily available and save these birds?

Wood > Homes for people to live
Seal Fur > Fashion clothes for celebs

Cutting forest and not replanting it is also bad,a lot is cut in amazon rainforest's.
And that place has millions of animals,plants,insects.

Wood is only used because its cheaper and lighter, so in your logic its only used for "the stupid need for money." Steel and cement houses are superior in almost every way possible.

This was quoted from another source

The seal population has to be controlled because they kill so many fish. I didn't say eat so many fish, i said kill so many fish. Have you ever seen a fish that a seal 'ate'? Seals just take one bite out of a fish's belly and then they leave the fish struggling in the water with its entrails hanging out. The seal doesn't bother to make sure the fish is dead before harming it, the seal doesn't even consume the whole fish. They simply bite chunks out and leave the fish alive and suffering.

Tell me, whats so cute about that?

Ok for furniture then ?
And now you hate seals because what they do o fish ? I wonder what will we blame the fishes for....
Oh and do seals go around and hit small baby fishes with bats as their job ?

[izmeister]

Wood > Homes for people to live
Seal Fur > Fashion clothes for celebs

Cutting forest and not replanting it is also bad,a lot is cut in amazon rainforest's.
And that place has millions of animals,plants,insects.

Wood is only used because its cheaper and lighter, so in your logic its only used for "the stupid need for money." Steel and cement houses are superior in almost every way possible.

This was quoted from another source

The seal population has to be controlled because they kill so many fish. I didn't say eat so many fish, i said kill so many fish. Have you ever seen a fish that a seal 'ate'? Seals just take one bite out of a fish's belly and then they leave the fish struggling in the water with its entrails hanging out. The seal doesn't bother to make sure the fish is dead before harming it, the seal doesn't even consume the whole fish. They simply bite chunks out and leave the fish alive and suffering.

Tell me, whats so cute about that?

Ok for furniture then ?
And now you hate seals because what they do o fish ? I wonder what will we blame the fishes for....
Oh and do seals go around and hit small baby fishes with bats as their job ?

No, but they take a bite out of the fish and let their guts spill out. At least humans kill the seal and most other animals we need for living.

[_Lana_]

No, but they take a bite out of the fish and let their guts spill out. At least humans kill the seal and most other animals we need for living.

Maybe they only like that part from the fish,when you ea fish you don't eat it whole
I know that we need to do those things to survive,but killing 350 000 of them is way to much.

[Mr.Ganji]

Seeing us, they stopped their grisly work, got back on their vessel and left the area.

Why would the sealers flee if they were indeed doing their job legally and humanely? The fact that they ran to prevent being filmed itself proves that the sealers are guilty. Forget the statistics and examples and so called "rights" of the hunters. The killings were obviously unlawful, not to mention the complete disregard of regulations.

[izmeister]

No, but they take a bite out of the fish and let their guts spill out. At least humans kill the seal and most other animals we need for living.

Maybe they only like that part from the fish,when you ea fish you don't eat it whole
I know that we need to do those things to survive,but killing 350 000 of them is way to much.

So whats wrong with us only taking the skin of the seal if that's the only thing we like about it? And besides, there are people who eat seal.

[_Lana_]

They didn't eat it... it was on ground rotting :|

[izmeister]

They didn't eat it... it was on ground rotting :|

And whats wrong with that? We took the skin we wanted, thats all we liked about it.

[Reise]

Because that's being wasteful. Especially when we can create synthetic fur.

[izmeister]

Because that's being wasteful. Especially when we can create synthetic fur.

The quality of animal fur and the quality of synthetic fur cannot be compared.

[_Lana_]

Because that's being wasteful. Especially when we can create synthetic fur.

The quality of animal fur and the quality of synthetic fur cannot be compared.

So you have coats made from fur ?
God.... Well enjoy them

[izmeister]

Because that's being wasteful. Especially when we can create synthetic fur.

The quality of animal fur and the quality of synthetic fur cannot be compared.

So you have coats made from fur ?
God.... Well enjoy them

Nah, I can't afford it : (

My mom used to have a mink coat, and I had went to some play with her and some PETA activists gave me a pamphlet trying to convince me my mom was a murderer. From that day I was against such retarded people as them.

[pr0klobster]

Because that's being wasteful. Especially when we can create synthetic fur.

The quality of animal fur and the quality of synthetic fur cannot be compared.

+1

They are getting closer but real fur warms better than synthetic. It's along the same lines as diamonds vs. fake diamonds. Mankind can create synthetic of a lot of things, but then again...most of it derives from oil-based stuff.

Anyway, that's off topic...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_hunting

9.5 million at last count, and 254,000 killed this year. This is less than the number of animals farmed and killed for fur (about 40 million).

You could distill this whole topic down to this: Mankind is barbaric in nature despite attempts to be civilized and we shouldn't waste anything given to us on this planet.

And I think a lot of people would agree with that statement.

[Isis]

All I can hear from this thread now is, blah blah blah!!

[BloodyBlade]

All I can hear from this thread now is, blah blah blah!!

I totally agree

About the fur farms, they should be illegal too, but the thread is about seals

[Crumpets]

All I can hear from this thread now is, blah blah blah!!

Because you're deaf to reasoning.

[*BlackFox]

Because that's being wasteful. Especially when we can create synthetic fur.

+1

[Isis]

All I can hear from this thread now is, blah blah blah!!

Because you're deaf to reasoning.

Yeah, I am deaf

[BloodyBlade]

I think you guys got it all wrong.. Everyone here is talking about the fur that's used for something, and the corpses that are wasted. It's not about that, seals shouldn't be killed in the first place, I mean, does anyone see the difference between real fur and "fake" fur?