Full Int china builds

robink · Post by **robink** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:22 pm

I got a few builds I will tell some advantages and disadvantages they are all FULL INT BICHEON s/s

100 bicheon / 100 light / 100 cold
has magical dmg increase 18% good defende because of snowshield and ice buffs(phy def) and has speed buffs

100bich / 100 fire / 100cold
got fire imbue and fire nukes good defence mag and phy
no speed and no magical dmg increase

100bich / 100fire / 70cold / 30 light
good dmg no speed some phy and snowshield + magical def fire

or another build post it ^^

Tasdik · Post by **Tasdik** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:32 pm

Well as a pure int you'll benefit greatly from 100 cold in pvp.

I'm still trying to decide between the 100bich/100light/100cold or the 100bich/100fire/100cold. I think that the 100fire/100cold build would be the best in pvp. Seeing as how you get the flame tower or whatever as well as fire nukes + fire imbue. I'm not sure if those make up for the lack of lightnings mag % buffs though.

:roll:

diCe · Post by **diCe** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:45 pm

bicheon / light / cold

if u go anything else , for example the bicheon / fire / cold

u will lose
1) speeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed
2) mag% +

i dont think its worth it

Tasdik · Post by **Tasdik** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:47 pm

diCe wrote:bicheon / light / cold

if u go anything else , for example the bicheon / fire / cold

u will lose
1) speeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed
2) mag% +

i dont think its worth it

He's just asking for pvp. If you really need speed during pvp you can always buy the speed pots. But most of the time pvp is like "You stand there and I'll stand here on the count of 3 start attacking"
Hardly and running is involved.

diCe · Post by **diCe** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:53 pm

i believe jobbing is also counted like PVP , and u do need speed in that

Hardly any running is involved.

i dont think so
its not just about speed , its also about the grass walk , believe me it saved my a$$ many times

Tasdik wrote:He's just asking for pvp.

i didnt see the word pvp in his thread

Tasdik · Post by **Tasdik** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:09 pm

diCe wrote:i believe jobbing is also counted like PVP , and u do need speed in that
Like I said he can buy speed pots for that.

Tasdik wrote:Hardly any running is involved.

i dont think so
its not just about speed , its also about the grass walk , believe me it saved my a$$ many times Grasswalk = speed

Tasdik wrote:He's just asking for pvp.

i didnt see the word pvp in his thread = read the poll question

diCe · Post by **diCe** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:29 pm

oh srry

i saw it now , in the POLL

and srry for the wrong skill name , i havent played chinese char for a few months ( ive been playing on my rogue/bard since then ), i meant the phantom thing ( idk the name )

anyway ,

i dont think anyone in sro will make a char and then just wait the whole day in front of dw-south ( jangan now ) for pvp ...

from my side of view , when i make a char , i like it to be good in everythig , but slightly better in something .. ( pvp or pve )

lets say im s/s - fire - cold , MAYBE this build "pwns" in pvp ( idk , i never had one ) , but it sure wont pwn in job war , becuase of it lack of speed ( unless u have a bard in ure pt , or loads of money for buying speed pots ) , ive tried jobbing with my frind`s pure str bow/fire/cold , it really sux without speed ( didnt have a bard in my party , i was a hunter ) , when a s/s-light-cold nuker thief comes and attack me , of course he casts snowhield , and then there is a 2minute ( endless , i had a shitty bow but a pretty though garment on me ) fight between us ( i just pray for a double crit ) , but if i dont , and the snow shield finish , he just casts the phantom and speed buff , and run away , hide or whatever until the snow shield is back , then he strikes again ..

light mastery is also very handy in FW , i dont know if u ever was in a FW ( i believe u did ) , the "phantom" skill saved my a$$ there trillion of times , especially when i fight pure str , i just run away and let someone else fight him , unless he is a warrior/bard , then i am totally pwned , but u know , there is no perfect build so i cant beat everyone in pvp

and if u just wanted to pvp , why choose INT anyway ???
int are more meant for pve

btw : i have a high lvl pure int s/s - light - cold , and i dont have problems against anyone in pvp except maybe warlocks and bladers

last words ,

i think that 80% of ppl here in SRF would agree with me that nowadays the best int pvp build is the ss / light/ cold

ill try pvping a ss/fire/cold guy , if i find someone in dw south

cheers

robink · Post by **robink** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:38 pm

yeah its also about pve ofc
but what I am wondering.... is will fire imbue do higher dmg than lightning imbue cos lightning got the 18% magical incraese

diCe · Post by **diCe** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:52 pm

thats gonna require some maths , im not ingame atm , cant see the exact dmg + and % , maybe someone else can answer ure question ...

Kori0129 · Post by **Kori0129** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:12 pm

Even Ice Nuke + Ligthing damage buff is better than the strongest fire nuke.

We calculated out some time ago. Fire int's time is gone man...

raphaell666 · Post by **raphaell666** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:34 pm

Kori0129 wrote:Even Ice Nuke + Ligthing damage buff is better than the strongest fire nuke.

We calculated out some time ago. Fire int's time is gone man...

Could you redirect me to where that was calculated, if possible? Because I highly doubt it.

robink wrote:yeah its also about pve ofc
but what I am wondering.... is will fire imbue do higher dmg than lightning imbue cos lightning got the 18% magical incraese

I'm pretty sure that the difference in damage between 'lightning imbue + lightning nuke + lightning magical attack increase', and 'fire imbue + fire nuke' is small, because fire nukes and imbue are stronger than lightning's.

dutchleader · Post by **dutchleader** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:06 pm

Saying fire is useless when like 70% of the nukes are in that tree is kinda weird IMO. No speed from lightning tree is a weak argument with all the valid alternatives. No ghost walk is/might be a slight disadvantage.

However what I hate about light/cold/bicheon: After ur 1 strong lightnuke u kinda need to get in close range to dish out dmg. Heuksal still has the option to use the new flying dragon which is really strong at 100.

You dont need really high cold, and also lightning doesnt offer alot other then the mag buff. Which doesnt increase that much from 60 mastery - 100 mastery.

So I would take 100 heuksal/light/cold or 100 fire+ heuksal/bicheon and the rest into cold/lightning.

raphaell666 · Post by **raphaell666** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:50 pm

dutchleader wrote:Saying fire is useless when like 70% of the nukes are in that tree is kinda weird IMO. No speed from lightning tree is a weak argument with all the valid alternatives. No ghost walk is/might be a slight disadvantage.

I sort of agree with that, but in the end it all depends on personal preference. For instance, I could say that not having speed (grass walk) and mobility (ghost walk) from lightning would be a huge disadvantage, that would be my opinion, and it would not by any means be wrong, because that's true for me. There are a few arguments that one could use in the fight fire x lightning x cold, but it'll depends on personal preference in my opinion. I'm not saying you are wrong or anything, I just wanted to make this clear: there's not a best option.

diCe wrote:i think that 80% of ppl here in SRF would agree with me that nowadays the best int pvp build is the ss / light/ cold

I don't agree, the best one for me would be 100bicheon/100fire/100cold. But that's just my opinion, and the best character for pvp in fact would be the one with the best equipment and/or has the most skilled player. I'm pretty sure that "80% of the people of SRF" thing you said is completely false anyways.

Bobby · Post by **Bobby** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 5:14 am

raphaell666 wrote:
Kori0129 wrote:Even Ice Nuke + Ligthing damage buff is better than the strongest fire nuke.

We calculated out some time ago. Fire int's time is gone man...

Could you redirect me to where that was calculated, if possible? Because I highly doubt it.

+1, i would also like to see where that was calculated.

For me, speed dosen't mean much, for current main dosen't have any light and i've been playing it for awhile now. Ghost walk cannot be replaced, but, for me, would be a sacrifice i would take.

Just wanna point out that u don't suck at job wars without ghost walk. Ghost walk is a handy skill, and can/will save ur life, but does not mean tht u can't group pvp without it. There a bunch of chars without ghost walk that still rock in group pvp, i mean seriously, it's not a huge disadvantage.

robink · Post by **robink** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 5:04 pm

raphaell666 wrote:
dutchleader wrote:Saying fire is useless when like 70% of the nukes are in that tree is kinda weird IMO. No speed from lightning tree is a weak argument with all the valid alternatives. No ghost walk is/might be a slight disadvantage.

I sort of agree with that, but in the end it all depends on personal preference. For instance, I could say that not having speed (grass walk) and mobility (ghost walk) from lightning would be a huge disadvantage, that would be my opinion, and it would not by any means be wrong, because that's true for me. There are a few arguments that one could use in the fight fire x lightning x cold, but it'll depends on personal preference in my opinion. I'm not saying you are wrong or anything, I just wanted to make this clear: there's not a best option.

diCe wrote:i think that 80% of ppl here in SRF would agree with me that nowadays the best int pvp build is the ss / light/ cold

I don't agree, the best one for me would be 100bicheon/100fire/100cold. But that's just my opinion, and the best character for pvp in fact would be the one with the best equipment and/or has the most skilled player. I'm pretty sure that "80% of the people of SRF" thing you said is completely false anyways.

I agree with you also I think phantom will be really useful .. because there are a lot bow chars and they get 2 times knock back which they can keep shooting untill they are out of ammo
this way I wont be able to cast nukes but with phantom I can get close and use knock-down or the stun/dull/FEAR combo ^^ FEAR roxcox

fckerr · Post by **fckerr** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 5:40 pm

light/cold/bicheon 100 full int is very nice but IMO hybrid 100fire 100 heuskal 60cold 40light is better

diCe · Post by **diCe** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 12:39 pm

robink wrote:I agree with you also I think phantom will be really useful .. because there are a lot bow chars and they get 2 times knock back which they can keep shooting untill they are out of ammo
this way I wont be able to cast nukes but with phantom I can get close

i agree

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