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INT Force + Cold + Bicheon

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No need for nukes, just debuffs and insanely high KB and stab damage, especially with division. Cold imbue is always nice when your opponent runs out of pills too and isn't ice immune. You can freeze chain them to death. Also, at 100 cap the new defensive chain can stun, dull, and give FEAR. Use of snow shield would be even better since force increases your mana. You could also toggle crystal wall + self healing while waiting for snow shield to cooldown for 2nd use.

I think I may just make this build. =D

What do you guys think?

It's basically a blader with a higher damage output and slightly lower survival rate. =D
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i like go for something unique that could actually be good

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lukefleming1 wrote:i like go for something unique that could actually be good

yea very unique and i know it works if you how to play
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meet an euro sub cleric = useless
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NuclearSilo wrote:meet an euro sub cleric = useless

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idk why but int force sounds like a fail to me..anyway...like nuclearsilo said..if a euro with cleric pvp you..ur dead..LoL..if u want bich skills so much..go blader full str.90 fire/force/ice .. if u want ice..90 ice/bich/force ... anyway i'd choose fire
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Bicheon already offers debuffs, so why sacrifice 90 masteries for a few more?

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The success rate for bicheon debuffs is very low. Force debuffs are 80%. Also, debuffs can be pilled only once every 20 seconds. Being able to put them on your opponent faster than they can remove them is very important. Also, we all know how overpowered cleric buffs are. Thats why JM is going to nuke holy spell to 50%. Just because theres 1 build that can dominate this one means I shouldn't even make the character? You people are pathetic. With that mentality everyone would just make the same build and the game would be boring. You people need to open your minds a bit and instead bashing builds for being weaker than others, fight to fix the builds that are too strong which limit the game.
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Jaapii wrote:Bicheon already offers debuffs, so why sacrifice 90 masteries for a few more?


You mean for the same? Chain has bleed and force has decay/weaken, which is about the same thing. Force/ice/heuksal might work.
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good idea, pretty nice build :P

but pure? uhmm... ^^
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XMoshe wrote:
Jaapii wrote:Bicheon already offers debuffs, so why sacrifice 90 masteries for a few more?


You mean for the same? Chain has bleed and force has decay/weaken, which is about the same thing. Force/ice/heuksal might work.

Chain has bleed and division that increases your damage, bleed does not make that much difference though. Force has division, weaken and decay, which will have a way greater effect than the chain afaik. Force debuffs (decay, weaken, impotent, division) plus chain debuffs (bleed, impotent, division; and also dull, fear, stun at 10D) will be just awesome.

What I think is this: This char will be mainly a build for 1vs1 pvping. At group pvping it will not be that useful (because of holy word/spell and that you can only debuff one person each time). Having those in mind, if you care only about 1vs1 pvping, I don't really see why to not do this build. It'll probably be a monster at 1vs1 pvping against anyone who does not have holy word/spell. Even better if your enemy is not cold immune, it'd be simply pwnage. Anyways, don't go pure int. What I'd suggest would be something among 70-85% mag balance hybrid int.
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LastProfet wrote:idk why but int force sounds like a fail to me..anyway...like nuclearsilo said..if a euro with cleric pvp you..ur dead..LoL..if u want bich skills so much..go blader full str.90 fire/force/ice .. if u want ice..90 ice/bich/force ... anyway i'd choose fire

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raphaell666 wrote:
XMoshe wrote:
Jaapii wrote:Bicheon already offers debuffs, so why sacrifice 90 masteries for a few more?


You mean for the same? Chain has bleed and force has decay/weaken, which is about the same thing. Force/ice/heuksal might work.

Chain has bleed and division that increases your damage, bleed does not make that much difference though. Force has division, weaken and decay, which will have a way greater effect than the chain afaik. Force debuffs (decay, weaken, impotent, division) plus chain debuffs (bleed, impotent, division; and also dull, fear, stun at 10D) will be just awesome.

What I think is this: This char will be mainly a build for 1vs1 pvping. At group pvping it will not be that useful (because of holy word/spell and that you can only debuff one person each time). Having those in mind, if you care only about 1vs1 pvping, I don't really see why to not do this build. It'll probably be a monster at 1vs1 pvping against anyone who does not have holy word/spell. Even better if your enemy is not cold immune, it'd be simply pwnage. Anyways, don't go pure int. What I'd suggest would be something among 70-85% mag balance hybrid int.


U should go pure int! u have a 60% (?) snow shield so why wouldn't u use it?
And I still think force is useless when u have bicheon, the statuses are pretty similar,
Okay, u have less chance to give the status to ur enemy but u do give dmg while tryin to get the status on him..

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Jaapii wrote:U should go pure int! u have a 60% (?) snow shield so why wouldn't u use it?

I don't think you should go pure int. As a hybrid int and if you successfully debuff your enemy you'll be dealing already way more than enough damage to kill your enemy, so what's the point in going pure int? Also, your nukes are not so effective having only cold, and that was one of the strongest points in going pure int. I really don't think you'll actually need to use snow shield most of the time if you go with a hybrid int character in garment with those ice phy buffs together with knockdown skills and debuffs. You'd probably only use snow shield when there's more than 1 people attacking you, depending on how much hybrid you go, and if your enemy resists or pills impotent if it is a high dealing damage enemy such as a int or euros. Also, force improves your MP, so as a hybrid int + MP force passive, you wouldn't have problems surviving under high lvls snow shield in garment.

Jaapii wrote:And I still think force is useless when u have bicheon, the statuses are pretty similar,

Weaken makes a lot of difference for a int character (be it hybrid or pure), and also, as I've stated in my last reply:
raphaell666 wrote:Force debuffs (decay, weaken, impotent, division) plus chain debuffs (bleed, impotent, division; and also dull, fear, stun at 10D) will be just awesome.

Not to mention that force debuffs are 80% chances of working while each chain attack has only 20% chance of casting each debuff.

Jaapii wrote:Okay, u have less chance to give the status to ur enemy but u do give dmg while tryin to get the status on him..

As a hybrid int you will be able do deal some serious damage to your enemy, even if using cold imbue without lightning buff afaik. Also, with force and bicheon, you'll probably debuff your enemy very fast, and if you successfully debuff things will get extremely easy for you.
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Re: INT Force + Cold + Bicheon

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I wouldn't do that build because there is a glich with frostbite and KD.Its your choice but i wouldn't do it.
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