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I find it quite disturbing that people are being educated from a religious view.

And I'm not only referring to Muslim schools, but also to Jewish and Christian schools.

Education and Religion are two tolly different things, and they should be separated all the time.
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!G4! wrote:Im Muslim Aswell So i Support It ^_^!


Cool, how do you sign up to be a suicide bomber?


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You would know that the Gold Coast is quite ethnically diverse. We're far more accepting than other countries, yet we reject something and we're all of a sudden racist. The wogs do the same thing here also, they disrespect the Australian way of life, and try make Australia their own. Your view opposes theirs? They will rock up in their VL Turbo and pull screwdrivers on you! Besides, in Europe they don't classify themselves as wogs... As you said, if someone went to Lebanon and wanted to make a Christian only school in the middle of their war-torn city you would be dead in the blink of an eye.



I agree, if your going to live in another country, you are obligated to integrate at least somewhat into the community. You can't just buy a plot of land and call it muslim world and do nothing but islamic stuff in there, thats just nonsense.
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Snoopy wrote:As you said, if someone went to Lebanon and wanted to make a Christian only school in the middle of their war-torn city you would be dead in the blink of an eye.


False, Lebanon has a large population of Christians, and in fact Lebanon's presidents are always Christian, while the Prime ministers are Muslim. But that's beside the point.

Like other people have said here, if it is privately funded, then let them be. Yet if it is publicly funded by the government/tax money, then that is a different story. However, if there are Catholic/Christian/Jewish/Hindi schools that are publicly funded and up and running, then it is only right to allow the Muslim school to be built.

After all, are the Muslims living in Australia not tax payers and Australians themselves? Or does religion some how denote some kind of alienation from society where other religions are accepted in similar scenarios. Imho, it is only right that the Islamic school be built IF other religious schools were publicly built, since after all Australian Muslims' tax money was/is used to fund Catholic/Jewish/etc. schools.

After all, I am assuming there is no prejudice at all in saying "ZOMG NO MUSLIM SCHOOL IN MY COUNTRY PLZ" and this is strictly political. :roll:

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Snoopy wrote:As you said, if someone went to Lebanon and wanted to make a Christian only school in the middle of their war-torn city you would be dead in the blink of an eye.


False, Lebanon has a large population of Christians, and in fact Lebanon's presidents are always Christian, while the Prime ministers are Muslim. But that's beside the point.

Like other people have said here, if it is privately funded, then let them be. Yet if it is publicly funded by the government/tax money, then that is a different story. However, if there are Catholic/Christian/Jewish/Hindi schools that are publicly funded and up and running, then it is only right to allow the Muslim school to be built.

After all, are the Muslims living in Australia not tax payers and Australians themselves? Or does religion some how denote some kind of alienation from society where other religions are accepted in similar scenarios. Imho, it is only right that the Islamic school be built IF other religious schools were publicly built, since after all Australian Muslims' tax money was/is used to fund Catholic/Jewish/etc. schools.

After all, I am assuming there is no prejudice at all in saying "ZOMG NO MUSLIM SCHOOL IN MY COUNTRY PLZ" and this is strictly political. :roll:


Some Muslims pay taxes, others try avoid it. Most people in Australia are either Christians or don't support or believe in any religion. Where I live there's no Publicly funded Christian/Jew/Catholic schools so why should an Islamic school be allowed? I don't hate Muslims or have anything against them I just wouldn't want my money going toward their religious education when they should be learning English, and Australian culture. Not totally segregating themselves from the country they live in and learning only about Islamic culture.

Anywho, some stupid Muslims have been saying how they want to invade Australia and blah blah. Then the Lebanese start their rubbish how they're going to take over the country.

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Mobious, have you heard about the Christians being killed by militants in Egpyt, i spose not. Usually the minority paint a bad view for the majority but in this case the majoirty of Lebanese youth are a pack of wankers. A couple years ago on Anzac Day they burnt and pissed on a Australian flag at a ceremony. When the Australians act up we get punished and those pigs get away with it. All the lebs carry knifes anyways and they attack lone white kids. Hell, i've got mates who carry daggers on them incase they get hassled by the lebs.

Honestly, its Australia not WogAustralia. Their country is a shithole, we don;t want them to wreck ours.
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GrindingEternaly wrote:Mobious, have you heard about the Christians being killed by militants in Egpyt, i spose not. Usually the minority paint a bad view for the majority but in this case the majoirty of Lebanese youth are a pack of wankers. A couple years ago on Anzac Day they burnt and pissed on a Australian flag at a ceremony. When the Australians act up we get punished and those pigs get away with it. All the lebs carry knifes anyways and they attack lone white kids. Hell, i've got mates who carry daggers on them incase they get hassled by the lebs.

Honestly, its Australia not WogAustralia. Their country is a shithole, we don;t want them to wreck ours.


I dont get what Coptic Christian/Muslim fueds that have been going on in Egypt have to do with Australia tbh. And yes, I do know about it, and there are no 'militants' in Egypt killing Christians. It's all family v family fueds that have been going on for generations that are the main source of conflict over there between Muslims/Christians, and even then its mainly in the farming towns.... but again, that's besides the point.

I get where you both are coming from with the whole Lebanese tension in Australia. Quite frankly I had never heard of it before, but I'm guessing that's because I'm not Australian.And I'm not here to defend any 'WogAustralia' or Lebanese gangster wannabe issues.

I'm just using logic here. If you're going to build a PUBLIC Catholic school, and if you're going to build a PUBLIC Jewish school, then it is wrong to deny the PUBLIC Muslim school. And stereotypes, bigotry, and racism aside. You know that this is only fair.

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XemnasXD wrote:Mobius+Logic> Snoopy+Jstar+Everyone else who's acting a fool


blah blah

Hypothetical: Americans love it how Mexicans invade their lands, start their gangs and terrorise Americans citizens. Americans probably pay for these illegal Mexicans to go to school and get an education. Yet, after they get a proper education, they totally disrespect the American way of life by pissing and lighting the American flag on fire.

Some of the above is true, some I added myself.

Why should people who do such things, be allowed anything?
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Snoopy wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:Mobius+Logic> Snoopy+Jstar+Everyone else who's acting a fool


blah blah

Hypothetical: Americans love it how Mexicans invade their lands, start their gangs and terrorise Americans citizens. Americans probably pay for these illegal Mexicans to go to school and get an education. Yet, after they get a proper education, they totally disrespect the American way of life by pissing and lighting the American flag on fire.

Some of the above is true, some I added myself.

Why should people who do such things, be allowed anything?


>_> If our politicians really wanted to control immigration all they would have to do is remove the incentives to come here illegally, and make emigrating legally attractive. My point is moot, and off-topic.

OnT: People who come illegally should not be there in the first place. Then again; subsidizing anything only creates more of the problem.
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Snoopy wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:Mobius+Logic> Snoopy+Jstar+Everyone else who's acting a fool


blah blah

Hypothetical: Americans love it how Americans invade their lands, start their gangs and terrorize Americans citizens. Americans probably pay for these Americans to go to school and get an education. Yet, after they get a proper education, they totally disrespect the American way of life by pissing and lighting the American flag on fire.

Some of the above is true, some I added myself.

Why should people who do such things, be allowed anything?


See what i did there. I took your BS hypothetical and made it a realistic hypothetical...


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A school is a school. I'm an atheist so I really don't care about the ongoing religious tension on whether or not one side is more righteous than the other. As long as they're not built as an anti-"Western" brainwashing facility, as most poorly educated people would imagine, I really don't see any reason why they shouldn't be created. I'm not sure how the Australian government operates with regards to building and funding educational facilities, but here in the US, we still (sort of) respect the first amendment of the constitution -- separation of Church and state; therefore Catholic, Jewish, Muslim and other schools with religious affiliations have to become private. So if they decided to build a public Muslim school here in NYC, I say they can go **** themselves and I'd go "HA!" :D

If your government funds Catholic or any other special religious institutions, they shouldn't display such bigotry when another religion wishes to build their own.

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PhoenixRider wrote:I'm muslim, so naturally I would support it.

Let me ask you this, if there were to be a jewish or christian church being open would there be the same issues being brought up? Trying to compare an extremist attack and an entire religion is absolutely idiotic.

lol, compare....

Do islamic states have christian or jewish public schools?

I dare you.

(altough i have lots of egyptian, kurdish, persian, tunesian, etc friends here and there these kind of stuff brings only fundamentalism. Islamism is not what it used to be anymore...)

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Muslim schools?
Stephanus wrote:Do islamic states have christian or jewish public schools?

I dare you.


Thats the main reason i wouldn´t support muslim schools. I mean, you can´t even carry your crucifix/star of david with you if you travel to Saudia Arabia (for example) because non-islamic religious items are f*cking illegal..... and now they want to create muslim schools in our countries?....
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NobleHunter wrote:Muslim schools?
Stephanus wrote:Do islamic states have christian or jewish public schools?

I dare you.


Thats the main reason i wouldn´t support muslim schools. I mean, you can´t even carry your crucifix/star of david with you if you travel to Saudia Arabia (for example) because non-islamic religious items are f*cking illegal..... and now they want to create muslim schools in our countries?....

yes there is in egypt christian schools and almost all christians carry religious items and its not a problem
and its not illegal to carry them in saudia arabia
just in maka only muslims are allowed to go there
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Two wrongs don't always make a right. I'm saying this because it seems like the majority of the people who oppose this are not looking at it from a logical standpoint but rather one that is bound to their emotions and misguided loyalty to a different religion.
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Muslims schools in other countries like australia or USA should be named under a country's title to be more clear
like : the egyptian puplic school
why is that?
if you come across the arab gulf countries like uae or qatar, you should notice many european/american/australian schools that 50% puplic and 50% private and do obey the rules of the country, but as far as i am concerned there is no religious-only school around here even there are relegious activities inside these schools thats fine insided their schools and we have no problem dealing with these activities as long as it does not cross the islamic community of the nation which will cause troubles
and beleive me you may think that islamic school in your country might scratch someone's head because its relegious, you may actualy come and see the britich and the australian schools and their activities in both relegious and general, we respect their actions and give them protections from the outside threats, i even participated in a charity events held in the australian highschool for the sake of the people suffers in gaza and yeah i knew few australian friends who really feels comfortable here and treated very well.

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oh by the way, i can open a topic about Jewish/Christian/hindu etc schools in our arabian guld countries and spam hatred and BS toward them because i am muslim, but hey its gonna be the same object gonna start as snoopy starts and will still be continued, the difference that i won't start such a topic because abusing/hating relgions is an old act since the rock age
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DeepEvil wrote:oh by the way, i can open a topic about Jewish/Christian/hindu etc schools in our arabian guld countries and spam hatred and BS toward them because i am muslim, but hey its gonna be the same object gonna start as snoopy starts and will still be continued, the difference that i won't start such a topic because abusing/hating relgions is an old act since the rock age


Oh you stabbed me right in the heart. I don't care what people think of me. I don't care if you think I'm hating or abusing religions. I'm just saying, why should I pay for something that doesn't NEED to be built?! There's 1 hundred other schools to choose from, why make a new school to benefit a few Muslims. I'd rather see a Special High School be build for the mentally challenged.
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XemnasXD wrote:you ppl are hopeless...


Then leave us to our hopelessness and go do something better with your time! All you do is complain about people being useless/hopeless/pathetic/losers.
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Snoopy wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:you ppl are hopeless...


Then leave us to our hopelessness and go do something better with your time! All you do is complain about people being useless/hopeless/pathetic/losers.


Xem's right about you though. Little knight in shiny white armor...


And yes, there's no need for "special" arabic schools. Public education is perfectly fine, and you can be brought up religiously between the four walls of your family. Furthermore do most public schools respect religious needs & habits, making a "special" school obsolete in the first place.

I don't get why you'd need to be creating a culture within the native culture. Whilst it is you, whom made the choice, to come to that country in the first place. Instead of whining you need to be respected, and given everything you want. Try respecting the native culture, as that's mostly forgotten.
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I think if there weren't because of 9/11 and the war, this wouldnt even an issue, or make the news lol. But hey, when you hear Muslim, best to be alert right? :roll:
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I think if there weren't because of 9/11 and the war, this wouldnt even an issue, or make the news lol. But hey, when you hear Muslim, best to be alert right?


Wrong; when you hear public and <<insert religion>> and <<insert institution/concept>> alarms go *RIING*. If the state decides to give one religion special treatment [i.e.] taxpayer money they must do the same for all, or risk creating a de facto state religion. This politicizes the religion. Resources that would be used for charity or <<insert religious activities>> are diverted towards lobbying for more federal aid, political influence, and social engineering bills. It corrupts what was intended to be a virtuous institution.
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I know this will sound weird , but I'm Muslim here [and kinda religious too :P]

and if it's as you say that there ain't any other schools that are specified for a religion (public ones) then I'm not supporting this (unless that if someone came and it was fine to open a school for other religion then that's another story) cause as someone said [it's just too annoying to scroll up and look who said] education is something else.

in our [Muslim] countries , we get taught about our religion in school , but as that it seems that they don't teach you about Christianity there then it's just a general school , they want a Muslim only school ? make it a private one.

and about how they treat non-Muslim in Islamic countries ,then I'm telling you that we treat them very well (except for Saudi Arabia where it's another case in there) but either than that , all religions are welcomed , and all Arabian countries got at least 1 christian church in it.

I myself got lots of non-Muslim friends.

and trust me , 90% of muslims hates those qaeda and the bombers dudes >.>
the others are mentally infected , didn't get clear info about who qaeda is or are qaeda themselves.
and what qaeda is saying is not Islam at all , Islam forbid hurting civilians , it even forbids damaging plants and town property in case of a war.

they are just bunch of ppl , doing what they want under the name of Islam while ruining it and screwing up the life of all the left Muslims.


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