Alchemy question of Opinion*

aznronin · Post by **aznronin** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:40 am

For Silkroad players, do you guys normally use a luck stone for going from +4 to +5?
Or do you guys go for +5 without luck stone? In the case of Weapon.
This is besides the amount of elixirs you have, I just asking do you guys just go for +5 without luck stone.

Swindler · Post by **Swindler** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:42 am

I go without

BaronSengir · Post by **BaronSengir** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:01 am

using luck stone from +4 ==> +5 is a waste of 9-10m use it to go +6 or +7

Insanity · Post by **Insanity** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:04 am

no need for luck stone for + 5
i just + 5'd:
87 earrings
85 blade
85 shield

all without the use of luck stones.

iSinnnn · Post by **iSinnnn** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:08 am

Do not use.

aznronin · Post by **aznronin** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:09 am

So I can confirm* people in general do not need luck stone from +4 to +5?

SoundBurst · Post by **SoundBurst** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:21 am

yup, they do not use them from +4->+5 but they DO use them from +5->+6 and anything higher

RedBlueGreen · Post by **RedBlueGreen** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:48 am

SoundBurst wrote:yup, they do not use them from +4->+5 but they DO use them from +5->+6 and anything higher

u dont NEED them for +6 or higher.. iv made like 3 +7s (no lucky stones) 1 +8(no lucky stones)....and even a +10 on a level 27 head.. no luck stones.. for me.. luck stones=bad luck

EDIT:.. i never use prem/premplus..

MooMooMoo · Post by **MooMooMoo** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:52 am

+4 to +5 with a luck stone, I think its a waste but thats my opinion.

all those were made with no luck stone and no prem.

aznronin · Post by **aznronin** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 4:00 am

omg that is nice.......

EvGa · Post by **EvGa** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 4:48 am

Never use luck stones. Have made 5 85+7 weapons.

I have also destroyed many many weapons.

sheeplol6 · Post by **sheeplol6** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:13 pm

i failed 4>5 6 times on my spear, 4 times had lucky. i guess they give you the more secure feeling when hitting fuse though

_Dutchy_ · Post by **_Dutchy_** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:39 pm

Well myself i made 1 +10 and 2+9's without any luck stones so i don't ever use them not even above +7 i Personaly don't believe in em at all

but on the other hand my GM uses Luck stones above +4 everytime ... and he makes +7's like hes some godamnn +7 factory lol

willieb3 · Post by **willieb3** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:01 pm

how do you guys make it so easy to get +5 ive used 160 elexirs on a shield and no +5 and 75 elexirs on a sword and no +5 :banghead:

_Dutchy_ · Post by **_Dutchy_** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 4:09 pm

willieb3 wrote:how do you guys make it so easy to get +5 ive used 160 elexirs on a shield and no +5 and 75 elexirs on a sword and no +5

well the trick is to know when not to do alchamy and when to do alchamy ... i have my little beliefs most of em are prolly BS xD but some of em have to be right cuz i make such high + items

but for +5 i would say if it fails on +3 or lower more then 2-3 times Stop doing alchamy then its simply not the time for it when you get it to +3 everytime easy then keep pushing and it will go +5

EvGa · Post by **EvGa** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:17 pm

I agree with dutchy. At first my theory was that some weapons have their own "luck", but now I think its also about timing. Sometimes you'll have an item fail +2 and 3 over and over, try again the next day and have it go straight to 4 2-3 times then +5. So I believe it has to do with the item and timing.

But then the same time that item is failing over and over, I can switch to something different and have it go to +5. So maybe every item has a certain time of day when its "luck" increases.

aznronin · Post by **aznronin** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:45 pm

Yea I also agree because maybe it's just not your day, sometimes when you feel like doing alchemy you should just go for it, however I have yet to get to +5 without a luck stone, I am doing this type of alchemy right now at lvl 59, as a nuker , so It's hard to get a luck stone, so I have to go without it.

_Dutchy_ · Post by **_Dutchy_** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 6:24 pm

EvGa wrote:I agree with dutchy. At first my theory was that some weapons have their own "luck", but now I think its also about timing. Sometimes you'll have an item fail +2 and 3 over and over, try again the next day and have it go straight to 4 2-3 times then +5. So I believe it has to do with the item and timing.

But then the same time that item is failing over and over, I can switch to something different and have it go to +5. So maybe every item has a certain time of day when its "luck" increases.

Could be time of day however i just made my GM's Ring +7 First try straight from 0 to +7 and he kept failing it on +2 the whole time just minuts b4 idk Alchamy is a STRANGE thing :banghead:

but yes i really do believe time has allot to do with it =]

MooMooMoo · Post by **MooMooMoo** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 6:33 pm

Adding on

Just 1 Click away

_Dutchy_ · Post by **_Dutchy_** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:01 pm

yea or 1 click away from going to +0 again xD

EvGa · Post by **EvGa** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:08 pm

This 88 headpiece failed +2 4 times in a row, then did the following:

(Did this few minutes ago)

_Dutchy_ · Post by **_Dutchy_** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:53 pm

EvGa wrote:This 88 headpiece failed +2 4 times in a row, then did the following:

(Did this few minutes ago)

well i gues were just gonna have to face the fact that alcmahy is TOTALY random i gues?

MooMooMoo · Post by **MooMooMoo** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 8:18 pm

_Dutchy_ wrote:
EvGa wrote:This 88 headpiece failed +2 4 times in a row, then did the following:

(Did this few minutes ago)

well i gues were just gonna have to face the fact that alcmahy is TOTALY random i guess?

dam right

_Dutchy_ · Post by **_Dutchy_** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 8:46 pm

MooMooMoo wrote:
_Dutchy_ wrote:
EvGa wrote:This 88 headpiece failed +2 4 times in a row, then did the following:

(Did this few minutes ago)

well i gues were just gonna have to face the fact that alcmahy is TOTALY random i guess?

dam right

xD well i know its random but i'l still do my stupid little ritual's :love:

b4 alchamy everytime

EvGa · Post by **EvGa** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 8:50 pm

Haha, same for me. Except when I get pissed and just repeatedly hit fuse.

Ragnorak · Post by **Ragnorak** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:15 pm

EvGa wrote:This 88 headpiece failed +2 4 times in a row, then did the following:

(Did this few minutes ago)

hit fuse once more, +7 ftw

I use lucky stones when going for +7....I make my own stones...paying 7-9mil for a stone is no something I like to do

iSinnnn · Post by **iSinnnn** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:39 pm

Damn, your guys' lucky stones are cheap. Cheapest I've seen in months on Hera is 14.5m.

aznronin · Post by **aznronin** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 10:42 pm

So people in general would not use a luck stone from going from +4 to +5 because buying the luck stone wouldn't be worth it?
I think that would be the correct reason?

.curve · Post by **.curve** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 10:56 pm

Nah, using luck stone from +4 - +5 is sort of a waste since +5 is pretty easy to make. I use luck stones only from +5 - +6 and +6 - +7, and then Immortal/Steady from +7 - +8 and up.

MooMooMoo · Post by **MooMooMoo** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:19 pm

_Dutchy_ wrote:xD well i know its random but i'l still do my stupid little ritual's b4 alchamy everytime

Yeah you do your thing and I'll do my thing, lets leave it at that

@azn, good luck

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