What is the best glaive build?

[tman91942]

Dang, You guys put up very good points on Cold 90 vs light 90 >.< so good that I still cannot decide, Well like he said that extra parry is good but compared to getting alot more phys def idk if its even worth it + A bunchhhhh of players are starting to make Warrior/Cleric so ya they are pretty beast and i think i would need all the phy def i could get. So basically i think i am gonna go with 90 ice Thx

[pikachu]

wep90fir90cold48light72 thats more phyz def with phantom21.5m

[TheDrop]

I am hearing people talking about full str glaive build using 90 heuksel/ 90 fire / 72 ice en 48 light and 60/60 light ice and 90 90 90 30 ice
1) What do you guys think is the best build for full str glaive?
2) How much % snow shield is the best for glaive without getting MP problems?

1) MrFudge made a great post about it, viewtopic.php?f=4&t=94536&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=ice+is+better+than+light+str read his points on 30 ice/90 light vs 72 ice/48 light ^^
2) i think 30% snow shield would drain a lot of mp pots already, since str chars have fewer mp (duh) and glaive skills seem to take a lot of mp

[Pithia]

How about : heuksal 90, light 90 ( light imbue ) , ice 80 and 10 fire.

light= for speed and mag att pwr
ice = phy. def pwr + high lvl snow shield, but idk if high lvl snow is good for your mp's

tell me what u think about it

[Stopper]

without fire you are loosing every battle ,
no mag.defence
no status protected
no good imbue
no passive phy damage 9%

use fire90 in every case.

[Insanity]

90 glaive
90 fire
90 ice
30 light

remember, there are a LOT of euro's now, and so whenever you job, there will typically be a bard and/or cleric in the party whom will give you moving speed.

with 90 ice you gain extra physical defense, which allows you to survive longer. remember, the point of a pure str is not to kill, but to hold off the enemy long enough so that the damage dealers can kill him.

[Nitro]

without fire you are loosing every battle ,
no mag.defence
no status protected
no good imbue
no passive phy damage 9%

use fire90 in every case.

First level imbue of Cold does 500 dmg less than lv.80 imbue of fire on Full STR.

Imbue for STR = Shit!

[raphaell666]

There is not a best build, it depends on what you prefer.

90heuksal/90fire = must, and you have 120 masteries left to choose among lightning or cold. Lightning improves your speed and mobility and therefore your performance at most group pvping situations. Cold on the other hand improves your phy defense, and therefore your performance in most 1vs1 pvp situations. It depends on what you prefer. There's only one hybrid between these, that's the build 90heuksal/90fire/72cold/48light, which has a kind of good speed and good phy def, but at 100 cap you'll have to choose either speed or def and then delevel one of them. You can also go with 90-100heuksal/90-100fire/90-80lightning/30-20cold, but then cold will be only for snow shield which would help you at surviving for 2 mins.

@Ragnorak

First level imbue of Cold does 500 dmg less than lv.80 imbue of fire on Full STR.
Imbue for STR = Shit!

+1 Therefore mag atk % lightning buff = completely worthless. For 1vs1 pvping cold > lightning. For group pvping lightning > cold (only because of speed and ghost walk). Parry ratio changes pretty much nothing.

[salmissra]

i prefer the 90heuksal90fire72ice48light...or just simply 90heuksal90fire48ice52light for 100cap (100heuk100fire48ice52light)

the ice would help much more with the tanking and the loss of the parry ratio wouldn't hurt too much.

plus the 90heuk90fire48ice52light is less sp too so i prefer it the most

[RogueKiller]

90 Heuskal/ 90 Fire/ 90 Force/ 30 Ice or Light is the way to go.
The reduced parry ratio doesn't matter because you can decrease it from your opponent.
The additional defense of ice doesnt matter because you can decrease that too.

[raphaell666]

simply 90heuksal90fire48ice52light

What do you gain by choosing 52 light instead of 48? And, you could go with 68ice; with the build you mentioned you'd have 20 mastery points left.

for 100cap (100heuk100fire48ice52light)

Compare lvl 48 cold buffs with lvl 100 cold buffs. Then answer me if you still think that build is worth it. Instead of 48 cold, then go with 20 cold only for snow shield and go for higher light, it's way more worth it.

[salmissra]

simply 90heuksal90fire48ice52light

What do you gain by choosing 52 light instead of 48? And, you could go with 68ice; with the build you mentioned you'd have 20 mastery points left.

for 100cap (100heuk100fire48ice52light)

Compare lvl 48 cold buffs with lvl 100 cold buffs. Then answer me if you still think that build is worth it. Instead of 48 cold, then go with 20 cold only for snow shield and go for higher light, it's way more worth it.

i agree but:

a)52 light mainly for the new speed. i could go with 68 ice but no point..gonna have to dlvl it soon anyways

b) i agree but once again im thinking about the long term..i doubt i'll get 100 ice since i'll have to dlvl it every cap raise. also the extra defense is awesome but if i get good gear..i'd do fine with 20-30% snowshield.

i was thinking of force glaiver..but once again i don't want to have to dlvl it later on ..since my dmg will drop..i rather get used to not having force at all right now.

[streetrobban]

Im going Heuksal/Fire 90, Ice 72 and Lightning 48 on my Glavier.

[raphaell666]

i agree but:

a)52 light mainly for the new speed. i could go with 68 ice but no point..gonna have to dlvl it soon anyways
Why go with 48 cold? Simply don't take it. It'll make almost no difference at all at only lvl 48. Go instead with only 20 cold for 20% snow shield.

b) i agree but once again im thinking about the long term..i doubt i'll get 100 ice since i'll have to dlvl it every cap raise. also the extra defense is awesome but if i get good gear..i'd do fine with 20-30% snowshield.
i was thinking of force glaiver..but once again i don't want to have to dlvl it later on ..since my dmg will drop..i rather get used to not having force at all right now.
Dlvling at every cap raise is a problem that will always exist, but fortunately the cap increases take some time to be done. I don't suggest you to be always worrying about that. If you are thinking about the long term and don't want to have problems dlvling, then go with heuksal/fire, and you'll never have to worry about dlvling. Worrying about that now is completely useless though. You are gaining absolutely nothing from it, you are only losing your time and will be using builds weaker than how they could be.

[Sealed]

Hello you guys forgot about Force?

Heksual/Fire/Force is best, you can do insane damage with the debuffs on your opponent.

[Crowley]

Best glaive build - Str.

But srsly,

90 Fire/Heuksal 72 Ice 48 Light

[Shadowfox542]

Glaviers seem to have more issues with defense than offense, so I would go ahead and do Glavie90 Fire90 Cold90 light30. Bards/drugs fix speed...

Protector is good stuff, 15 second thing helps a lot.

And afiak you could use a very high level snow against nukers, as they have a long cast time for you to recover your MP. I don't think most glaviers are able to kill nukers in snow without a lot of crits....so using a snow of your own might work out a lot better.

[Crowley]

Glaviers seem to have more issues with defense than offense, so I would go ahead and do Glavie90 Fire90 Cold90 light30. Bards/drugs fix speed...

Protector is good stuff, 15 second thing helps a lot.

And afiak you could use a very high level snow against nukers, as they have a long cast time for you to recover your MP. I don't think most glaviers are able to kill nukers in snow without a lot of crits....so using a snow of your own might work out a lot better.

I disagree with you last statement. Nukers barely nuke at cap, they prioritize Heuksal/Bicheon skills over Nukes. IMO Glaivers shouldn't even need snow shield. First of all, a Pure Str Glaiver will eat MP potions like crazy as Heuksal skills are very costly MP-Wise. + He'd be Pure Str which means at cap he'd have around 11k MP. And with each Heuksal skill costing 3k+ MP + the Imbue Glaivers just don't have the sufficient amount of MP to use a snow shield.

[BaronSengir]

you dont have a 90 glaiver dont you? s/s cant kill a glaiver in snow low% at least not me not even a +9 sword

[Crowley]

you dont have a 90 glaiver dont you? s/s cant kill a glaiver in snow low% at least not me not even a +9 sword

I don't need a capped glaiver to know how to play one...

[Shadowfox542]

you dont have a 90 glaiver dont you? s/s cant kill a glaiver in snow low% at least not me not even a +9 sword

Bleed+Division and KD seems like it would put almost anything down.

From my experience PvPing glaviers, they fail defensively. I am a rogue, and I was a warrior. As both builds glaivers present very little challenge.

Even the simple Bless+spamming dagger skills seems to do the job so long as they don't stun you, or if you get a significant crit.

[alZen]

perhaps here is another alternative to think abt ...

90 glaive
89 light for speed and imbue (maxing to 90 is no big diff from 89)
61 fire to get immunity and that huge jump in mag def and phy dmg buff and passive. will lose 5% in phy dmg buff/passive total for not maxing fire to 90.
60 cold to get some snow shield and that huge jump in phy def.

[Stopper]

well, easy target will be then
glavier without fire90 is like without umbrella in rainy day.
i need that char to pvp with, will be 10:0 for me (fire/cold/heus90, light30)
i have both imbues maxed at 90. you will burn and freezed and frostbite all the time until your death. (you have not fireking- Emperor)

[jyushinshuu]

all ur glavie builds are boring

the best glavie build is heuksal/fire/force maxed.
best 1on1 build. many of the glaviers in our server is changing from 90light - 90force.
its very good with all the debuff.

but my personal favorite would be heuksal/bicheon/fire.
dual weapon build, this is the most owning build in history if you know how to play it right.

[Makaveli]

My favourites

90 heuk 90 fire 90 ice 30 light

and

90 heuk 90 fire 90 force 30 ice

the way to go

[AnarChaos]

I would suggest:

Heuksal 90 Fire 90 Lightning 60 Cold 60

If you prefer more phy def you may do this way also:

Heuksal 90 Fire 90 Lightning 52 Cold 68

And for the 100 cap you have 2 choices:

Heuksal 100 Fire 100 Lightning 50 Cold 50

Heuksal 100 Fire 100 Cold 100

[BaronSengir]

another 100 cap choice is 100 wpn 100 fire 60 ice 40 light

[Crowley]

Lol at 100 cap most str builds are going 100 weapon/fire 80 light 20 cold

[alZen]

well, easy target will be then
glavier without fire90 is like without umbrella in rainy day.
i need that char to pvp with, will be 10:0 for me (fire/cold/heus90, light30)
i have both imbues maxed at 90. you will burn and freezed and frostbite all the time until your death. (you have not fireking- Emperor)

if fire 30 can already get you immunity, fire at 61 makes it even easier to gain immunity. not sure where you are coming from. obviously fire/cold maxed will be stronger in tanking and damage VS light maxed, which only obvious advantage is in phantom range. the game play will be totally different and more frequent use of flying dragon against the slow chasing fire/cold will be needed to even out the odds a little. like i said, it's a build for consideration, not saying that it's THE PWNZOR.

[Stopper]

well, easy target will be then
glavier without fire90 is like without umbrella in rainy day.
i need that char to pvp with, will be 10:0 for me (fire/cold/heus90, light30)
i have both imbues maxed at 90. you will burn and freezed and frostbite all the time until your death. (you have not fireking- Emperor)

if fire 30 can already get you immunity, fire at 61 makes it even easier to gain immunity. not sure where you are coming from. obviously fire/cold maxed will be stronger in tanking and damage VS light maxed, which only obvious advantage is in phantom range. the game play will be totally different and more frequent use of flying dragon against the slow chasing fire/cold will be needed to even out the odds a little. like i said, it's a build for consideration, not saying that it's THE PWNZOR.

well i am just saying that without FireKing-Emperor you will NOT any status protection against 9D imbues. Believe me i been tested , chars without that skill are running away from battle (yes used phantom XD to run away and never back).