Share Parties with 'Afk' players

[DarkJackal]

well DJ

im prolly one of the biggest legits here and lol

here are my standars for "legitness"

if they bot then there asshole

if they use loader then there just stupid asses

if they get plvled by a bot there not to bad.
how ever i can see why you would make that connection.
however i still view being plvled this way to be "legit"
hell even i have stuff to do other than to lvl my self
and anyway most "legits" do get pfarmed for free at lvl 1-15
anyway im going offtrack a bit.

btw if you use multi client then your the biggest asshole in the game and you should be shot

How can you say ur one of the biggest legits if you got powerlvld by bots >.>.

To me any kinda lvling without at least someone doing the work isnt really legit.

1 player grinds, somoene next to him botting, there's` a difference right? Ones legit, ones not.
1 group of ppl getting powerlvld by that same person, one getting powerlvld by that bot, 1 group is still legit, one is not.

Sure the first group is still getting lvld, but theres an actual person doing the work, in exchange for money or because they are friends most likely, the other, no one is doing the work, the only difference is it applies to many instead of one.

[evilpeta]

u can't be more legit than a legit. u're either legit, or not legit. there's no grey area. i believe that has been told many times
legit being white and not-legit being black. u can't be whiter than white. (not being racist or anything).

[Zero_Doom]

How can anyone consider it legit if you are still being leveled by a bot? Sure you may not be the one doing the actual botting, but indirectly you are still being leveled by a bot. As an example, but in no way saying it is the same thing, if you are standing there while a buddy of yours murders someone, you are considered an accessory to murder. Sure, you didn't actually kill anyone, and hell, you may not have even held the equipment or done anything to help with the murder, but you are still an accessory to murder.

[PocketSunshine]

well DJ

im prolly one of the biggest legits here and lol

here are my standars for "legitness"

if they bot then there asshole

if they use loader then there just stupid asses

if they get plvled by a bot there not to bad.
how ever i can see why you would make that connection.
however i still view being plvled this way to be "legit"
hell even i have stuff to do other than to lvl my self
and anyway most "legits" do get pfarmed for free at lvl 1-15
anyway im going offtrack a bit.

btw if you use multi client then your the biggest asshole in the game and you should be shot

I disagree. Most of the botters I know are actually really nice people; They're a lot nicer than some legits I know.


I just wish some people would not judge someone based on the way they decide to level up. It's fine to disagree with it, but saying someone is a horrible person because they bot and needs to be shot makes you worse than a botter.

[Azilius]

well DJ

im prolly one of the biggest legits here and lol

here are my standars for "legitness"

if they bot then there asshole

if they use loader then there just stupid asses

if they get plvled by a bot there not to bad.
how ever i can see why you would make that connection.
however i still view being plvled this way to be "legit"
hell even i have stuff to do other than to lvl my self
and anyway most "legits" do get pfarmed for free at lvl 1-15
anyway im going offtrack a bit.

btw if you use multi client then your the biggest asshole in the game and you should be shot

LoL plvl by bot isn't based on opinion..it's not legit =\

[Chess]

My personal review is if a human couldn't do it it's not legit. So taxiing with a person thats a bot for 3 hours is okay especailly if you did not know till after you paid. If your getting 1 mil sp off a friend that just happens to be a bot for free is hwere I see the problem coming in. I'll join Free taxi's that are bots and then get my char up to 20 + in them to mess them up and to get free leveling as I am not high enough level to kill them or thier taxi chars as many people seem to auto res.

[Da_Realest]

Of course most players here are going to say its legit. They're too lazy to level themselves and see it as loophole since they aren't directly using a bot to level.

Join a random Euro party full of "legit" players and you'd be surprise how often people have to go afk.

[Sacchin]

Of course most players here are going to say its legit. They're too lazy to level themselves and see it as loophole since they aren't directly using a bot to level.

Join a random Euro party full of "legit" players and you'd be surprise how often people have to go afk.

On Xian if you were Chinese you are often not invited to legit parties unless you are a Euro and Niya Generals were nothing but all Euro legit parties with one or two bots (sometimes) or just randoms mixed. Also, if you weren't a big damage dealer or a low lvl they would kick you. My legit guild was in BHA union and they wouldn't party with the Chinese players, they would pm my Euro members to party and ignore the Chinese looking for a party, even when we saw there was a spot open. So on Xian, you either party(hand grind yourself in it) with one or two bots or you solo. That is your ONLY option. You can call me unlegit if you still disagree.

[Da_Realest]

There is nothing wrong with soloing.

[Sacchin]

There is nothing wrong with soloing.

So then all Chinese Xian legits should solo? And what about party mobs? And the original reason the party system was made? You should play on Xian and see what I'm talking about because I don't think you understand how bad it is there.

[Da_Realest]

There is nothing wrong with soloing.

So then all Chinese Xian legits should solo?

Thats what they been doing before the Europe update came.

[Sacchin]

There is nothing wrong with soloing.

So then all Chinese Xian legits should solo?

Thats what they been doing before the Europe update came.

Maybe on your server but not mine. I was always with my guild mates in a party. Regardless, it's different now and Chinese shouldn't have to suffer because they have no buffs for others >_> But whatever, it's your opinion.

[DarkJackal]

There is nothing wrong with soloing.

You're right, soloing is fine, but sometimes ppl wanna get the most out of their ticket.


Just because players solo'd before the party system had good benefits doesn't mean they wouldn't want to now that it does >_>, thats like saying just because ppl didn't have tickets before item mall opens means they still shouldn't get em lol.

[Da_Realest]

Maybe on your server but not mine. I was always with my guild mates in a party. Regardless, it's different now and Chinese shouldn't have to suffer because they have no buffs for others >_> But whatever, it's your opinion.

Even before party mobs? I've played on many servers and I've never met any experienced player who partied in a exp share party with the intent to level before the Europe update. The exp was faster solo.

You're right, soloing is fine, but sometimes ppl wanna get the most out of their ticket.


Just because players solo'd before the party system had good benefits doesn't mean they wouldn't want to now that it does >_>, thats like saying just because ppl didn't have tickets before item mall opens means they still shouldn't get em lol.

Depends on what you define getting the most out of your ticket. If I grinded something and didn't waste much ticket time doing something else, I got the most out of my ticket. You make it seem as if you have to go grind green mobs as a Chinese character if you can't find a party.

Also, from my experience, your exp gain solo can be just as much if not much lower than most Euro parties.

The argument would be a slightly more understandable if you were speaking from the stand point of a Euro character. However, Chinese characters are built to solo.

[Sacchin]

Maybe on your server but not mine. I was always with my guild mates in a party. Regardless, it's different now and Chinese shouldn't have to suffer because they have no buffs for others >_> But whatever, it's your opinion.

Even before party mobs? I've played on many servers and I've never met any experienced player who partied in a exp share party with the intent to level before the Europe update. The exp was faster solo.

Well, on Xian after the race discrimination and ticket use, I'd rather be "unlegit" then waste $20+. So I don't see it as any other choice. But it's your opinion, you're entitled to it and I respect that.

[DarkJackal]

Maybe on your server but not mine. I was always with my guild mates in a party. Regardless, it's different now and Chinese shouldn't have to suffer because they have no buffs for others >_> But whatever, it's your opinion.

Even before party mobs? I've played on many servers and I've never met any experienced player who partied in a exp share party with the intent to level before the Europe update. The exp was faster solo.

You're right, soloing is fine, but sometimes ppl wanna get the most out of their ticket.


Just because players solo'd before the party system had good benefits doesn't mean they wouldn't want to now that it does >_>, thats like saying just because ppl didn't have tickets before item mall opens means they still shouldn't get em lol.

Depends on what you define getting the most out of your ticket. If I grinded something and didn't waste much ticket time doing something else, I got the most out of my ticket. You make it seem as if you have to go grind green mobs as a Chinese character if you can't find a party.

Also, from my experience, your exp gain solo can be just as much if not much lower than most Euro parties.

The argument would be a slightly more understandable if you were speaking from the stand point of a Euro character. However, Chinese characters are built to solo.

Chinese or Euro, share parties can be faster, and they usually were for me, a Chinese char.

[Da_Realest]

Maybe on your server but not mine. I was always with my guild mates in a party. Regardless, it's different now and Chinese shouldn't have to suffer because they have no buffs for others >_> But whatever, it's your opinion.

Even before party mobs? I've played on many servers and I've never met any experienced player who partied in a exp share party with the intent to level before the Europe update. The exp was faster solo.

You're right, soloing is fine, but sometimes ppl wanna get the most out of their ticket.


Just because players solo'd before the party system had good benefits doesn't mean they wouldn't want to now that it does >_>, thats like saying just because ppl didn't have tickets before item mall opens means they still shouldn't get em lol.

Depends on what you define getting the most out of your ticket. If I grinded something and didn't waste much ticket time doing something else, I got the most out of my ticket. You make it seem as if you have to go grind green mobs as a Chinese character if you can't find a party.

Also, from my experience, your exp gain solo can be just as much if not much lower than most Euro parties.

The argument would be a slightly more understandable if you were speaking from the stand point of a Euro character. However, Chinese characters are built to solo.

Chinese or Euro, share parties can be faster, and they usually were for me, a Chinese char.

Well, they usually weren't for me.

[LivithiuM]

Before euro at 80 cap I farmed to be ff and I ALWAYS joined 8 man party at generals.

It was the best way to gain the most sp.

I would try to be just with legits back then but even doing that it was extremely rare to get a full 8 man with just legit players.

I calculated the sp gained in 8 man and it was much better than 4 man BUT I was a pure str glavie user lvl 80 with 9 gap.

If you are pure int spear and have very nice gear etc then 4 man was better... But not all ppl were pure int spear.

[chickenfeather]

Of course most players here are going to say its legit. They're too lazy to level themselves and see it as loophole since they aren't directly using a bot to level.

Join a random Euro party full of "legit" players and you'd be surprise how often people have to go afk.

On Xian if you were Chinese you are often not invited to legit parties unless you are a Euro and Niya Generals were nothing but all Euro legit parties with one or two bots (sometimes) or just randoms mixed. Also, if you weren't a big damage dealer or a low lvl they would kick you. My legit guild was in BHA union and they wouldn't party with the Chinese players, they would pm my Euro members to party and ignore the Chinese looking for a party, even when we saw there was a spot open. So on Xian, you either party(hand grind yourself in it) with one or two bots or you solo. That is your ONLY option. You can call me unlegit if you still disagree.

Ouch Sacchin, you sound so bitter
Sadly, on BHA xian the situation hasn't gotten any better.
When I union looking for a share pt, the only euros that will grind with me are whitewings from BH and my guildies. The only other union people that will join the party are those from the spanish guilds in union that usually only want plvl and go afk most of the time.

[PocketSunshine]

If you have a problem with him, bring it up to the mods. It's that simple.

[JoyFax]

I like Nuclear's way of thinking, he's not an idiot with blinds who believes in everything some people say on this forum... I don't really see how banning him would help this forum.

[RogueKiller]

Hilarious...
Anyways its legit in my books if your still grinding.

[Azilius]

You make no sense..it's like arguing with an ignorant person. They always win. Your comments add nothing, they only take away hence why they are not needed.

A wise man once said if you have nothing good to say don't say anything at all. You should really consider that.

[PR0METHEUS]

Wow... The first page, full of posts over 2 years old, a majority with <<banned for bot admission -SG>> or <<banned for bot support -SG>> in their sigs... Of course most of the posts there are saying that it's legit to do share parties with bots.

No matter how you look at it, if you share party with them, you're gaining experience from a bot. It doesn't matter if the bot software is running on your computer, or running on someone else's computer, and the exp is just coming through the Internet to your character. It's still from a bot. You might as well bot yourself.

[Azilius]

Wow... The first page, full of posts over 2 years old, a majority with <<banned for bot admission -SG>> or <<banned for bot support -SG>> in their sigs... Of course most of the posts there are saying that it's legit to do share parties with bots. :banghead:

No matter how you look at it, if you share party with them, you're gaining experience from a bot. It doesn't matter if the bot software is running on your computer, or running on someone else's computer, and the exp is just coming through the Internet to your character. It's still from a bot. You might as well bot yourself.

Of course people can and obviously do change from legit -> bot so that statement cannot apply to everyone who posted. Deacon after all was legit iirc.

The only point I wanted to make with this topic way back when it was posted was that you're still doing your 'fair share' if not more in the party and technically the bot isn't allowing you to gain anything extra that you wouldn't be gaining if they didn't exist. That was when I was grinding in takla at it's prime time of bots.

Now that I've played a bit more I tend to stay completely away from any form of bot party though.

[DarkJackal]

Dec 13, 2007 to now is only 1 year ;d, and its hardly a majority.

That seems to be describing getting powerlvld or leeching from them. If you join a share party around your lvl you aren't just gaining exp from a bot, you are really just gaining the bonus you get for having ppl in a party with you, you are still grinding yourself, they aren't lvling you like the bot does them, unless your just sitting there letting them do everything.

[Andromeda]

Crying about Chinese chars not being welcome in a share party is funny.

Ill give an example anyone, even Sacchin, can understand.

Look at the picture.



The pie on the plate is a European char. The other pie is a Chinese char. In order for a European pie to be like a Chinese pie he needs to have some friends join him. Of course, his pie is in return bigger and more powerful.

Saying a Chinese pie should be allowed to try and wedge itself into a European pie is pretty selfish. It doesnt fit and instead of making a whole pie, it makes a mess. When you make a new char you have a choice of one slice or a whole pie.

[Sacchin]

Crying about Chinese chars not being welcome in a share party is funny.

Ill give an example anyone, even Sacchin, can understand.

Look at the picture.


The pie on the plate is a European char. The other pie is a Chinese char. In order for a European pie to be like a Chinese pie he needs to have some friends join him. Of course, his pie is in return bigger and more powerful.

Saying a Chinese pie should be allowed to try and wedge itself into a European pie is pretty selfish. It doesnt fit and instead of making a whole pie, it makes a mess. When you make a new char you have a choice of one slice or a whole pie.

Crying about Chinese chars not being welcome in a share party is funny.

Ill give an example anyone, even Sacchin, can understand.

Look at the picture.


The pie on the plate is a European char. The other pie is a Chinese char. In order for a European pie to be like a Chinese pie he needs to have some friends join him. Of course, his pie is in return bigger and more powerful.

Saying a Chinese pie should be allowed to try and wedge itself into a European pie is pretty selfish. It doesnt fit and instead of making a whole pie, it makes a mess. When you make a new char you have a choice of one slice or a whole pie.

One question for you.

Do you play on Xian server? THIS is the big question here. Are you implying it's wrong for a Chinese to want to party with Euro's? Even lunaphile said the discrimination wasn't any better. I don't care either way. Your pie theory is wrong. And I agree with what PR0METHEUS says below.

[PR0METHEUS]

Crying about Chinese chars not being welcome in a share party is funny.

Ill give an example anyone, even Sacchin, can understand.

Look at the picture.

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The pie on the plate is a European char. The other pie is a Chinese char. In order for a European pie to be like a Chinese pie he needs to have some friends join him. Of course, his pie is in return bigger and more powerful.

Saying a Chinese pie should be allowed to try and wedge itself into a European pie is pretty selfish. It doesnt fit and instead of making a whole pie, it makes a mess. When you make a new char you have a choice of one slice or a whole pie.

Valid point, but one thing to keep in mind: Silkroad Online is an MMORPG. It's designed as a multiplayer game. If Chinese characters can't party with other players (chinese or european) then they might as well just be playing a single player game where all other characters are NPCs with a little AI for possible chat.

When Islam is released, will euros ban them from their parties too? Or will they decide that Islamic characters are even more powerful and will be even better than their euro counterparts? Then Euros will be running around begging to be in an Islamic party... Can't we all just get along and play together?

[DarkJackal]

Crying about Chinese chars not being welcome in a share party is funny.

Ill give an example anyone, even Sacchin, can understand.

Look at the picture.



The pie on the plate is a European char. The other pie is a Chinese char. In order for a European pie to be like a Chinese pie he needs to have some friends join him. Of course, his pie is in return bigger and more powerful.

Saying a Chinese pie should be allowed to try and wedge itself into a European pie is pretty selfish. It doesnt fit and instead of making a whole pie, it makes a mess. When you make a new char you have a choice of one slice or a whole pie.

There was never any "wedging", chinese partying with euros is fine, i've done it plenty of times and there was no "mess". Sacch was talkin bout the union not wanting chinese to pt, which was pretty annoying.