_Creep_

[tedtwilliger]

Ok so i don't have any in game proof, rather an interpretation of his text. In my mind.. this justifies a ban/warning. If there is any logic I'm missing please fill me in and i shall correct myself.

Quoted from a previous thread which turned out to be locked.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=104274&start=0

This forum is full of hypocrites. 90% people here using bot and loader.

Now lets examine this statement, shall we?

To know that "xx" people on this forum bots entails either a few certain pieces of knowledge. Either:

a. He bots himself and owns 90% of srf accounts
b. He knows firsthand that someone else, 90% of people, bot
c. He is just lying and falsely accusing people without evidence

Now lets take option a. If this be the case he should be banned for botting, simple enough.

Option b is also quite interesting. If he knows someone else that bots, or rather 90% of people, is he not supporting bots by not reporting to the moderators of these members and their illegitimacy.

If we take option c, than he is accusing people, everyone ( or the majority ) or botting without any sort of proof or evidence, which is a banable / punishable offense, right?

So is this kind of talk allowed on srf? Or can i simply state "95% of mods are bots loader whores fack fack" and get away with it?

If this isn't considered "real proof" than please feel free to lock it, but in my eyes, i think the figures add up. But if im missing something than please inform me.

[Melez]

These are just speculations, imo, not enough evidence. He may get a warning for talking crapish, I've seen harder craps here though. Ehmm.. At least you tried.

[Burningwolf]

b. He knows firsthand that someone else, 90% of people, bot




Option b is also quite interesting. If he knows someone else that bots, or rather 90% of people, is he not supporting bots by not reporting to the moderators of these members and their illegitimacy.

well if thats the case then ban me to.
I've known so many fake legits on these forums, and never reported one.
I just hate the idea of snitching.

Snitches get Stitches

[nohunta]

b. He knows firsthand that someone else, 90% of people, bot




Option b is also quite interesting. If he knows someone else that bots, or rather 90% of people, is he not supporting bots by not reporting to the moderators of these members and their illegitimacy.

well if thats the case then ban me to.
I've known so many fake legits on these forums, and never reported one.
I just hate the idea of snitching.

Snitches get Stitches

Wolfie Check Your Pm Box Fool.

I believe the Quote is "Snitches end up in Ditches".

Also Locked. THis topic is fail. Believe it or not a TON of people here are closet botters. Why do you think a lot of people here dont post there ingame names ^.^?

[NuclearSilo]

This forum is full of hypocrites. 90% people here using bot and loader.

I wonder what side this guy belong: 10% or 90%?

[Tasdik]

As far as I know the SRF mod team doesn't force someone to report a botter on SRF. It is however strongly and highly encouraged by the mod team that we do so.
But, I don't believe they *the mod team* will ban you simply because you chose not to report someone who bots. If you yourself are legit.

I may be wrong. Correct me if I am.

[SoAyame]

Blah probably 90% of ppl do use something. I always said this from day 1 no proof only the person behind the screen knows

[Azilius]

Thought it was obvious 90% do actually use something..though it's not any proof he's made many other bot supportive arguments and there's no doubt in my mind that he bots too.

[Burningwolf]

b. He knows firsthand that someone else, 90% of people, bot




Option b is also quite interesting. If he knows someone else that bots, or rather 90% of people, is he not supporting bots by not reporting to the moderators of these members and their illegitimacy.

well if thats the case then ban me to.
I've known so many fake legits on these forums, and never reported one.
I just hate the idea of snitching.

Snitches get Stitches

Wolfie Check Your Pm Box Fool.

I believe the Quote is "Snitches end up in Ditches".

Also Locked. THis topic is fail. Believe it or not a TON of people here are closet botters. Why do you think a lot of people here dont post there ingame names ^.^?

theirs nothing in it

[Kirkaldi]

I think this is insufficient proof to get someone banned or a warning.

[CeLL]

b. He knows firsthand that someone else, 90% of people, bot




Option b is also quite interesting. If he knows someone else that bots, or rather 90% of people, is he not supporting bots by not reporting to the moderators of these members and their illegitimacy.

well if thats the case then ban me to.
I've known so many fake legits on these forums, and never reported one.
I just hate the idea of snitching.

Snitches get Stitches

Wolfie Check Your Pm Box Fool.

I believe the Quote is "Snitches end up in Ditches".

Also Locked. THis topic is fail. Believe it or not a TON of people here are closet botters. Why do you think a lot of people here dont post there ingame names ^.^?

whats yours

also i agree that this should be viewed as a false accusation, which from what i read, is taken serious.

[Snoopy]

I think this comment was taken too far.

Should I go to the thread where people said "95% of Turks are idiots", and expect them to have this prior knowledge, or proof to back it up. No I wouldn't; simply because THEY themselves do not know 95% of all Turkish people, and until they do, their comment "95% of Turks are idiots" should be voided. As once again, I believe this was a generalised sentence and was taken too far. By no one other than Mr. Ted Twilliger.

If we take option c, than he is accusing people, everyone ( or the majority ) or botting without any sort of proof or evidence, which is a banable / punishable offense, right?

Now it seems to me, like you're looking for any excuse to get this person banned. As I said, I believe this was a generalised statement which was said by _Creep_ not necessarily directed at anyone. However people who would like their (As said many times before in EB Section )"e-peen" to increase by a miraculous 1inch ( < Note sarcasm here < ) which happens when you report people in Exposed Botters section simply for the fun of it, or an increase in e-popularity because you're trying to get someone banned.

I think that no other written evidence except the blatant and obvious (I Bot / We Bot / My pet picked it up as I was AFK grinding / My brother was grinding ETC Yes there's more but I cant be assed listing them) should be regarded as evidence toward botting.

I'M NOT SAYING CREEP DOES NOT BOT, I SIMPLY BELIEVE IN INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY - AND THIS IN MY EYES DOES NOT PROVE CREEP GUILTY

[tedtwilliger]

also i agree that this should be viewed as a false accusation, which from what i read, is taken serious.

But i never accused anyone, right? I was simply clarifying with the srf mod team and general public if statements like this could be considered suffecient proof and gave my reasons as to why it could be.

I think tadsik sums this up actually;

As far as I know the SRF mod team doesn't force someone to report a botter on SRF. It is however strongly and highly encouraged by the mod team that we do so.
But, I don't believe they *the mod team* will ban you simply because you chose not to report someone who bots.

I think this post gives me the clarity i need. Guess i better hunt creep down in game then to see if he is legit or not, thanks for the clarification everyone. I suppose in that sense, the thread can be closed.

[RogueKiller]

This is why people think you guys are lifeless.

[TeamLosi]

What do you guys gain from trying to get him banned?

[Sinner]

What do you guys gain from trying to get him banned?

Their ego is growing even more...

[Barotix]

What do you guys gain from trying to get him banned?

A clean forum, and no he won't be banned.

[Nitro]

This is why people think you guys are lifeless.

Lol... +9999